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Chinaman Discussion Thread

A few questions about Lan Mu:

1. Is Lan Mu some kind of demon-like being like sun wukong from journey to the west?

2. Is Demonic Lan Mu just a fancy name or is he literally a demonic-like figure in this form?

3. What are the tails of Lan Mu?

4. Can Lan Mu transform into any of his 32 forms at will?
 
Gasper said:
1. Is Lan Mu some kind of demon-like being like sun wukong from journey to the west?
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He can become Sun Wukong and a demon in his transformations.
Gasper said:
2. Is Demonic Lan Mu just a fancy name or is he literally a demonic-like figure in this form?
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Demonic Lan Mu is the burden of walking the imagined endless unknown, the sense of ignorance and pressure towards the unknown when facing the endless truth, it's completely abstract.
Gasper said:
3. What are the tails of Lan Mu?
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What do you mean?
Gasper said:
4. Can Lan Mu transform into any of his 32 forms at will?
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Yes
 
Lan Mu is literally the most OP character in fiction, he has almost every hax there is, tier 0 immesurable physical strength feat, 7 different tier 0 forms/transformations, all immortalities, statements for his impressive tier 0 durability and AP. The only thing in which he lacks impressive feat is speed. But then again, he scales to the whole cosmology which gives him immesurable speed.
 
It's kind of stupid that it's the fact the author is clear with his words and intention that gets this verse compared to suggsverse.

Like, when the author is too vague and mysterious verses get downplayed or wanked, but the moment an author makes it clear how everything in the verse works it's a power scaling verse.
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
It's kind of stupid that it's the fact the author is clear with his words and intention that gets this verse compared to suggsverse.

Like, when the author is too vague and mysterious verses get downplayed or wanked, but the moment an author makes it clear how everything in the verse works it's a power scaling verse.
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That's called hypocrisy. People will just hate a new OP verse because it's "niche".
 
And I think the author probably won't change the cosmology. The cosmology hasn't changed much since the 2nd novel onwards
 
He doesn't really have a need to, the cosmology is as big as it can possibly get, besides mathematics, there is nothing he could imagine that is bigger.
 
When i say "change" i meant as if he includes other new structures like narrative dimensions in novel 4 or something and not completely restructuring it lol
 
ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
I don't know what either of those things are lol.
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Nah you definitely do.
Let me explain both,
Jungian Archetypes are a concept from psychology that refers to a universal, inherited idea, pattern of thought, or image that is present in the collective unconscious of all human beings.

Platonic deals/platonic concepts are concepts of lets say, a tree, and that tree has a platonic idea of a tree that exists in higher perfect space instead of inperfect reality that is material world.
 
But if art was also common, then it was too unbelievable. If that was the case, what kind of logic was that intelligent creatures in one corner of the Milky Way could feel the art created by intelligent creatures in another corner of the Milky Way? Could it be that art also existed objectively? The universe was destined to give birth to humans?

To put it bluntly, art could be created as long as it was an intelligent creature with thoughts and feelings. And if all the intelligent creatures in the universe understood the same thing in a convention, then it meant that the "art cell" existed the moment the universe was born.

It had a general outline of a big concept! This concept encompassed the thoughts and perceptions of all intelligent races since the birth of the universe.

This wasn't scientific, but it was philosophical.
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Philosophy of art was something that should gradually appear after intelligent creatures appeared. It was useless to the universe. With people, there would be art. Otherwise, there would be no meaning and no value.

Was something like art valuable to the universe itself? Not a single cent of value.

But now, if art was common, it meant that this was an objective concept that existed before intelligent creatures existed!

Why would the universe have such a concept that didn't mean anything to the universe itself but only meant something to intelligent creatures?

Logically speaking, this meant that … the universe already knew that there would be intelligent creatures. It was born for intelligent creatures.
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Not even surprising to be honest, lol

Does the verse have anything similar to WOD's Umbra or SCP's noosphere where all collection of human thought and concepts exists in? The taiji universe sure sounds similar.
 
Lan Mu's heart was like a mirror. Or it could be said that the consciousness of all life was a mirror, reflecting everything.

The heart was one, and all things were one.

Regardless of whether the information displayed was good or bad in the eyes of humans, it would all present and allow one to judge.

If the heart was evil, then all things would be evil. If the heart was filled with great love, then all things would love.

The Great Dao revealed everything and reflected it in the heart. How a person defined depended on the person.
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However, the world needed a mirror.

For a moment, he was actually moved. He finally understood why life could obtain the origin algorithm through comprehension.

Because life was the mirror of everything.

Even if life was so insignificant, it was still so important!
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ActuallySpaceMan42 said:
I think the Great Dao fits the description, let me find it real quick.
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Great Dao and Taiyi is actually the same thing, just different names. Anyway, Taiyi/Great Dao/Information integrated/001/Mind of True dimension… are just other ways of calling something that represents all the information/concepts/life/… of the True dimension.
An indescribable horror of information suddenly descended and was eroding the 'origin', the 'Great Path', 'Taiyi Chaos', 'Information Integration' at an extremely fast speed …
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PDB123456789 said:
Great Dao and Taiyi is actually the same thing, just different names. Anyway, Taiyi/Great Dao/Information integrated/001/Mind of True dimension… are just other ways of calling something that represents all the information/concepts/life/… of the True dimension.
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One question, does Demonic Lan Mu and Blue appear in any future novels? If so do they have any new feats or scaling?
 
Gasper said:
One question, does Demonic Lan Mu and Blue appear in any future novels? If so do they have any new feats or scaling?
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No, they are just described as Beyonders who have traveled very far in endless journey, and there is a mention of their Clone in novel 3. Their Clone/Avarta also has no consciousness just an empty corpse, and the name of avarta/clone is also not Lan Mu and Bai ge anymore but Lan Xiansheng and Paolo Ge.
 
PDB123456789 said:
No, they are just described as Beyonders who have traveled very far in endless journey, and there is a mention of their Clone in novel 3. Their Clone/Avarta also has no consciousness just an empty corpse, and the name of avarta/clone is also not Lan Mu and Bai ge anymore but Lan Xiansheng and Paolo Ge.
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Interesting, are these clones extensions of blue and white or are they completely different characters?

Also one more question: is Demonic Lan Mu true form of Lan Mu and Blue form is just a true form of Demonic Lan Mu or is Demonic Lan Mu just a power up of normal Lan Mu?
 
With his absolute shoot ability to, Mo quiang (Black Emperor) stole Paolo Ge's Clone from which he had all the abilities of Bai ge+ True Absolute Hit.It can be said that the first MC novel sets the stage for the next MC novel to reach the top. Except for Huang Ji, Mo Quiang sealed all absolute characteristics onto the Blue and white world, and made it impossible for anyone to escape from the True dimension, except Huang Ji who was an Absolute Omniscient.
 
Gasper said:
Interesting, are these clones extensions of blue and white or are they completely different characters?

Also one more question: is Demonic Lan Mu true form of Lan Mu and Blue form is just a true form of Demonic Lan Mu or is Demonic Lan Mu just a power up of normal Lan Mu?
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No need to care about clones. That's just the legacy they left in the Blue and white world. Demonic Lan Mu. Demonic Lan Mu can be understood that at that time Lan Mu threw away his humanity, he accepted to enter the Endless Journey and went to the Endless Transcendence. In general, it is quite difficult to explain. Treat it as Normal Lan Mu's power up for ease of understanding
 
PDB123456789 said:
No need to care about clones. That's just the legacy they left in the Blue and white world. Demonic Lan Mu. Demonic Lan Mu can be understood that at that time Lan Mu threw away his humanity, he accepted to enter the Endless Journey and went to the Endless Transcendence. In general, it is quite difficult to explain. Treat it as Normal Lan Mu's power up for ease of understanding
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So basically if i understood clones correctly, they are just a side-effect of Lan Mu's interaction with blue and white world?
 
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