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Characters that can beat Bill Cipher

High 1-B, likely 1-A Immortality and Fate, Death, Probability, Causality manipulation

She also erased the memory of Cestis to the point that she lost her physical form and completely forgot her identity
 
The gaming master666 said:
Monika cant leave games and her power only works on pc videogames
How about giffany?
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What? she litiraly destroyed the game and was ok, so no, she can leave the gamer, and gifany isnt even tier 2
 
monika, after being erased from the game just sits back and watches you play, and if sayori goes insane she eraeses sayori and the rest of the game, and makes you unable to copy and past the deleted files short of deleting the game and reoploading it (its fere, so no big deal)

and no, she isnt, she is inspired more from Miyuki Sone, and GIFany is 2D
 
They aren't the same tier because Giffany's game is (in-universe) just a game, is not real. In DDLC, the game is the real universe, so destroying it is Tier 2.
 
as in the thread, if bill selling his soul is a win than chara can convince, as bill would lose nothing from selling theire soul and he lacks the type of 4th wall breaking to know that hes in a fight and he would need to defeat chara
 
Yeahboiii123 said:
That wouldn't change the fact that he's comparable to Thanos. Also no 2-A or above is allowed here I mean anykind of 2-A.
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That's the point, DIO is not 2-A, his hax is 2-A, but the character himself is 8-B.
 
It's impossible for a 2-B or lower to beat a 2-A if we don't allow haxes that work on a 2-A level, so, we'll have to take everyone out of the OP and go back to zero.
 
Paulo.junior.969 said:
It's impossible for a 2-B or lower to beat a 2-A if we don't allow haxes that work on a 2-A level.
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Thats false, hax work in dimensional tiers, so a 2c with hax that affest other 2c it would still affect bill, there is no 2A and 2C hax, just 4d hax
 
It's not impossible at all. Bill is a 3-D being with 2-A power.

Also not all 4-D haxes are 2-A. Scale is a thing
 
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