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As I said. It all depends if the Concept itself is immune to casualty which is what I was asking for. Also it extending beyond the multiverse wont mean much when it is still vulnerable to GER's hax.Saikou The Lewd King said:Well do you think GER can affect a Concept? One that extends beyond the Multiverse at that.
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:Almost anything beyond universal is immune to universal causality, actually. There are different levels of effecting "causality", but GER's best showing is of affecting universal causality.
The1Sorgente said:If Giorno Giovanna ever face Chara in a bloodlusted fight it would rather be a stalemate. 1# Chara isn't really multiversal, or even Universal being at all. Every opponent that she face in Undertale are rather around street level, or lower. Also it was stated that every single monster(Except Undying, and Sans) were all weaker than a average human mostly because there bodies couldn't handle any determination. This was according to the intro of game, and alphys data log where you can find them in her underground laboratory. 2#. The only evidence that people considered of her being multiversal is where she kills you in the Genocide route ending. If you pay attention on what she saying you'll figure out that she only kills you, the player, and she only destroyed the monster world not the human world. This paragraph that I'm writing would've be debunk if the Genocide ending credit scene didn't happen. After the credit scene Chara give you an offer where she can bring everybody that were in the underground come back to life if you give up your soul. This doesn't make any sense if you look into her back story. In turn out Chara killed herself hy drinking some flowers, and give her soul to Asriel, so she can escape from the underground, and use all that power that Asriel had before to kill every single humans, but her plan failed miserably because Asriel didn't want to harm the humans, and thus causing both of them to die. This explain why she give you the offer in the Genocide ending because she trying to find a way to get out of the underground. If she was a multiversal being she wouldn't give you any offers to bring everybody back to life. In conclusion Giorno Giovanna couldn't kill Chara mainly that she reset the fight, and Chara couldn't kill Giorno with Gold Experience Requiem mainly that GER is a stand which it faster, and stronger than a human, and Chara couldn't see it, or touch it, and it ability is to reset any opponent strength, and willpower to zero.
Im pretty sure Giorno cant affect an abstract, so Chara would likely stompThe1Sorgente said:But I'm I right, or not?