Chara & Frisk Vs Palkia & Dialga

[Holyhotsauce]

Alright lets do this.

Chara & Frisk

Palkia & Dialga

Scenario:

Everyone is 2-B

Win By Death

 

[SITHISIT]

Chara vs Dialga is Inconclusive so let's leave it at the same as frisk.

With him out of the way, Palika has no way to overcome their regen and considering how dialga is a bit stronger than Palika so those two should beat them.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Palkia and Dialga are explicit equals. Anyway, Frisk dies of old age as the other three fight for eternity.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

Acausal/outside space-time beings dies of old age?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

If Frisk is determined enough he nopes death by old age

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

You...realize Frisk isn't immortal, right? And acausality doesn't equate to that at all? And he hasn't shown to lol-nope natural death? Not even Chara did that (though he wanted to die).

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Frisk was determined enough to resist Asriel erasing him. Imho, I doubt that old age is going to stop him either.

 

[SITHISIT]

Frisk has mid godly to low Godly Regenerationn


Tell me

Do you really think someone with that high regen is just gonna drop dead because they're old for all of the damn things that could happen?

Hell to the no

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yes. I do. Because of the fact that there were hundreds of other determination users before Frisk that died of old age, likely including the guys who created the barrier in the first place, who are at the very least equal to Frisk. Don't wank regen and acausailty. If you're not immortal, then you're not immortal.

 

[SITHISIT]

Yes. I do. Because of the fact that there were hundreds of other determination users before Frisk that died of old age, likely including the guys who created the barrier in the first place, who are at the very least equal to Frisk. Don't wank regen and acausailty. If you're not immortal, then you're not immortal.

Be logical.

Frisk can regenerate when their mind, body, and soul are wiped out from existence. Do you really think that they are permanently put down when erasing them from existence can still revive them because they're 80 years old?

Determination users before them likely just gave up. And I doubt there were determined at the level where they can literally create a bunch of timelines and then fight multiversal gods solo.

And the guys who made the barrier were magicians. And nobody knows what happened to them, If they even died, not implied, it was likely to battle or someone else.

And Frisk is beyond linear space time. Which means aging should likely not effect them. As aging happens via time.

+ if they die player renews them back.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I'm not saying his acausality makes him immortal, I know that isn't what acausality does.

There is no proof that the people who created the barrier were equal to frisk. They were sealing away the losers of a war they'd already won. Frisk was fighting to protect every timeline from being destroyed. If this is max DT frisk, then he is going to keep fighting no matter what, and something as trivial as old age is not going to put him down when Asriel with all his infintite 4-D power could not.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Riiingo. Literally everyone who's name isn't Flowey ages in UT. How do you think Frisk made it to the age of 1X anyway? They're humans. Frisk would normally be able to reset time to make himself his previous age, but Dialga shuts that down. Hard. So eventually, he would get old and die. Because there's no evidence in Undertale that proves otherwise. Unless he has immortality, he can die of old age. If you have a problem with that, get it added to his page.

I already realize I wa ninja'd by Monarch, but I took too long to post this and I'm not gonna waste it.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

@Riiingo. Literally everyone who's name isn't Flowey ages in UT.

wat

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

There's a reason to that. They aged before.

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Riiingo

None of those things relate to aging, though? I don't see how anything you listed disproves the idea that Frisk can't die of old age.

@Laciel

To be fair, said barrier is so durable that Asriel needs his full power to break it.

 

[SITHISIT]

@Riiingo. Literally everyone who's name isn't Flowey ages in UT.

wat

 

[Udlmaster]

Okay, let us calm down. Let's put it into two scenarios, One where Frisk cannot die of Age, and one where they can.

In the Scenario where they don't die, the fight goes on forever.

In the Scenario where they do die, the fight goes on forever.

Thing is you're putting two God-like beings against Children who have ascended to God-like beings, there's a reason why Dialga and Palkia haven't beaten each other, and that's because they effect and don't affect each other much like Chara and Frisk, they may have the power to say no to Death but so can Palkia by warping reality to it's design, Dialga can rewind its physical matter to come back to life, neither can die, Chara is just an idea, a part of something bigger because of what they am, so is Frisk but again so if Dialga and Palkia, I'd say this fight is Acausal, it won't end in with any amount of time or dimensions.

 

[NeoZex6399]

Okay, let us calm down. Let's put it into two scenarios, One where Frisk cannot die of Age, and one where they can.
In the Scenario where they don't die, the fight goes on forever.

In the Scenario where they do die, the fight goes on forever.

Thing is you're putting two God-like beings against Children who have ascended to God-like beings, there's a reason why Dialga and Palkia haven't beaten each other, and that's because they effect and don't affect each other much like Chara and Frisk, they may have the power to say no to Death but so can Palkia by warping reality to it's design, Dialga can rewind its physical matter to come back to life, neither can die, Chara is just an idea, a part of something bigger because of what they am, so is Frisk but again so if Dialga and Palkia, I'd say this fight is Acausal, it won't end in with any amount of time or dimensions.

^^^This

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

"This fight is acausal"

wat

If you are trying to say it is inconclusive though I agree.

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Votes:

Chara & Frisk: 0

Inconclusive: 4 (@Monarch, @NeoZex,@Uldmaster,@TheRealCalHoward)

Palkia & Dialga: 0

 

[Kaltias]

Even if we assume that Max DT Frisk can die of old age (which I don't think would happen) this is Chara vs Dialga all over again, as Palkia is equal to Dialga. And it's inconclusive for the same reasons Chara vs Dialga was inconclusive

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Inconclusive: 5 (@Monarch, @NeoZex,@Uldmaster,@TheRealCalHoward, @Kaltias)

Chara & Frisk: 0

Palkia & Dialga: 0

(Just saying Full DT Frisk Vs Absolute Chara has been determined to be inconclusive on about three different threads)

 

[Udlmaster]

"This fight is acausal"
wat

If you are trying to say it is inconclusive though I agree.

Yeah, I'm saying it's just going on forever.

It's inconclusive.

 

[Anonimoe7875]

well i vote for inconclusive too...

 

[Holyhotsauce]

Votes

Chara & Frisk: 0

Inconclusive: 7

Palkia & Dialga: 0

(Should this be added now?)

 

[Anonimoe7875]

isn't it 6 votes?

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

It can't be added anyway, because it is a group. Only one on ones get added.

 

[SITHISIT]

Palkia and Dialga are explicit equals. Anyway, Frisk dies of old age as the other three fight for eternity.

Acausal beings do not have a quantifiable beginning nor an end. The concept of cause and effect does not exist on them and transcending space and time doesn't work either with them aging

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

That's not how acausality works, at least not for aging. The reason Frisk won't die is because his dertermination lets him stave it off, not because he can't age.