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Chara Dreemurr (Undertale) vs Solaris (Sonic The Hedgehog)

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But Solaris isn't proven to be able to exist without space and time... Chara is and can destroy space and time. And, you have to be careful about using the term, immortal. Here, it rarely can be assumed 'absolute'. A conceptual attack of greater power than the being the immortality comes from can overcome it. In Chara's case, it's dependant upon his concept, as well as Determination. Both are incredibly powerful forces that literally allow him to do things considered impossible.

Speaking of Determination, it probably gives him yet another edge against Solaris(not that he really needed it).
 
Drac32Drac said:
But Solaris isn't proven to be able to exist without space and time... Chara is and can destroy space and time. And, you have to be careful about using the term, immortal. Here, it rarely can be assumed 'absolute'. A conceptual attack of greater power than the being the immortality comes from can overcome it. In Chara's case, it's dependant upon his concept, as well as Determination. Both are incredibly powerful forces that literally allow him to do things considered impossible.
Speaking of Determination, it probably gives him yet another edge against Solaris(not that he really needed it).
Solaris can consume all timelines as well and used the term immortal as well so why are u talking
 
Just simpily using the term immortal doesn't instantly give him type 5 immortality. There are different forms of immortality.
 
immortal can mean many things and doesn't always end up meaning invinciple. As it stands, Chara is the more powerful entity and nothing solaris actually possesses surpasses them.
 
According to Solaris's page, he only hase universe level durability, meaning that Chara can just one-shot him.
 
Because Chara is a higher form of being than Solaris. He is more powerful. Regenerationn is irrelevant when Chara can destroy all of him at once. Godly immortality is overcome by virtue of Chara being more powerful than the immortality(multiverse vs universe+). I'm not really seeing Solaris as able to attack the concept that sustains Chara, nor do I see him overpowering determination.

Consuming time(which happens gradually for one timeline) is not even remotely close to destroying all of spacetime in a universe at the same time, instantly.
 
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