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well, iirc, alone could fight both God Cloth Tenma and Athena at the same time, that is more than what Shun displayed I believe.
 
Whichever one gives Hades the 3-B rating. I don't know what powers he had at the time, bro. Only watched like 3 episodes of SS
 
Not sure if Hades can kill mikaboshi without his sword, so I vote inconclusive. Although Hades seems to have the upper hand.
 
Hades looks like he has more Hax than Mikaboshi. Most of which, counter him. So I'm giving it to Hades.
 
Hades via more and better hax. Mikaboshi probably won't fare so well against atomization, death manipulation or existence erasure.
 
Cropfist said:
Hades via more and better hax. Mikaboshi probably won't fare so well against atomization, death manipulation or existence erasure.
Zeus should have all of those abilities at least and Mika was able to fodderize Zeus iirc.
 
Mikaboshi is also literally an avatar of Oblivio, whoe entire goal was to erase existene and replace it with absolute nothingness.

Atomization, Death Manipulation, and Existence Erasure shouldn't really do...well, anything to him, unless the last operates on a higher level than Oblivion.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Mikaboshi is also literally an avatar of Oblivio, whoe entire goal was to erase existene and replace it with absolute nothingness.
Wasn't Mika just a God before he ascended into the Chaos King? Like, a Skyfather God and became an aspect of Obilivion?

I mean, if he's already a concept (Oblivion is the Concept of Nothingness), then i don't think Hades can even put him down for good.
 
Aparajita said:
Wasn't Mika just a God before he ascended into the Chaos King? Like, a Skyfather God and became an aspect of Obilivion?

I mean, if he's already a concept (Oblivion is the Concept of Nothingness), then i don't think Hades can even put him down for good.
The way he's talked about having existed before the multiverse and how Oblivion speaks about him makes it seem like he was already an aspect of Oblivion, as his ascension to a fully abstract-level entity simply involved absorbing more and more of reality into himself to grow more powerful. He just seemed to be severely hindered in his original form.

Of course, any problems may come from the fact that he was not initially planned to be part of Oblivion, and they kinda retconned it to make the story work, in-context.
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
The way he's talked about having existed before the multiverse and how Oblivion speaks about him makes it seem like he was already an aspect of Oblivion, as his ascension to a fully abstract-level entity simply involved absorbing more and more of reality into himself to grow more powerful. He just seemed to be severely hindered in his original form.
Then does Hades even have anything that can affect Mika?
 
Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:
Mikaboshi is also literally an avatar of Oblivio, whoe entire goal was to erase existene and replace it with absolute nothingness.
Atomization, Death Manipulation, and Existence Erasure shouldn't really do...well, anything to him, unless the last operates on a higher level than Oblivion.
Why are base Abstracts only Low 2-C if C. King is an aspect of Oblivion?
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Why are base Abstracts only Low 2-C if C. King is an aspect of Oblivion?
Because base Abstracts are almost always portrayed as merely universal embodiments of their concepts, Multi-Eternity was afraid of Chaos King in the Chaos War arc, and Marvel scaling is totally ******, especially in cases like this where a character's entire origins are retroactively altered.
 
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