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Change Ichigo's Classification

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After reading Bleach 675, Ichigo was able to awaken his hollow powers again. So, I was thing is we should change his classification to Human/Shinigami/Hollow/Quincy hybrid or Quincy with Hollow and Shinigami powers. What do you think?
 
We should probably wait for the next chapter to confirm this, but otherwise I don't see a problem with this.
 
Well, as far as we know....

Human-Quincy-Shinigami-Hollow-(Former) Fullbringer

Your statement is not unwarranted.
 
Human, Shinigami, Hollow, Fullbringer and Quincy.Also, Ichigo is not a Mary Sue, not even close. If he was, he'd going Vasto Lorde/Vollsstaentig Fusion mode and kicking Yhwach's rear by now.
 
Jjp7123 said:
Human, Shinigami, Hollow, Fullbringer and Quincy.Also, Ichigo is not a Mary Sue, not even close. If he was, he'd going Vasto Lorde/Vollsstaentig Fusion mode and kicking Yhwach's ass by now.
Mary Sues do not necessarily win every fight, but are just so special compared to the rest of the cast that the plot revolves around them, everyone can't stop mentioning how special they are, and generally possess good looks of some kind (which Ichigo does given the art style).
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Why do you doubt that won't happen in the end?
Because Ichigo is a one-dimensional fighter. If he can't fire a cero, quincy arrows or absorb reishi, what makes you think he can master Vasto Lorde or Vollsstaentig? He struggles to hone and master his true power and potential.
 
That moment when you realize that Ichigo only train 3 times in the whole series. Urahara taught him the basics to fight, Yoruichi teach him Bankai and Ginjo taught him Fullbring. While Yhwach/Fake Zangetsu taught him to never give up. Everything else is self thought, why do you think he can only spam Getsuga Tensho? Ichigo is a noob with everything at his disposal, yet look how strong he is without having master anything besides his fake bankai.
 
That's....actually a good yet not surprising description about Ichigo's power and skill throughout all of Bleach up 'til now. @HMV
 
HokageMangaVox said:
That moment when you realize that Ichigo only train 3 times in the whole series. Urahara taught him the basics to fight, Yoruichi teach him Bankai and Ginjo taught him Fullbring. While Yhwach/Fake Zangetsu taught him to never give up. Everything else is self thought, why do you think he can only spam Getsuga Tensho? Ichigo is a noob with everything at his disposal, yet look how strong he is without having master anything besides his fake bankai.
thats true i think its called train as you go.
 
HokageMangaVox said:
That moment when you realize that Ichigo only train 3 times in the whole series. Urahara taught him the basics to fight, Yoruichi teach him Bankai and Ginjo taught him Fullbring. While Yhwach/Fake Zangetsu taught him to never give up. Everything else is self thought, why do you think he can only spam Getsuga Tensho? Ichigo is a noob with everything at his disposal, yet look how strong he is without having master anything besides his fake bankai.
True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time. I would have taught myself to fight more like Hollow Ichigo.
 
Jjp7123 said:
HokageMangaVox said:
That moment when you realize that Ichigo only train 3 times in the whole series. Urahara taught him the basics to fight, Yoruichi teach him Bankai and Ginjo taught him Fullbring. While Yhwach/Fake Zangetsu taught him to never give up. Everything else is self thought, why do you think he can only spam Getsuga Tensho? Ichigo is a noob with everything at his disposal, yet look how strong he is without having master anything besides his fake bankai.
True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
he did not have time. when he train with the vizards it tuck all his time to contol his mask. and in the palace he has got new moves that how he has this new form.

1 did not have time.

2 he has he just has not show them yet.
 
Jjp7123 said:
True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
Doesn't he already spam more than 2 getsuga's at the same time? He also haves that new form from the new chapter. Also, did everyone forget during the Ulquiorra fight Ichigo cover his sword in a Getsuga to make his blade strike as hard as a getsuga?
 
HokageMangaVox said:
Jjp7123 said:
True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
Doesn't he already spam more than 2 getsuga's at the same time? He also haves that new form from the new chapter. Also, did everyone forget during the Ulquiorra fight Ichigo cover his sword in a Getsuga to make his blade strike as hard as a getsuga?
It's the same move though, even if he holds it in his sword. I want to know if he's capable of firing a Cero consciously. Is it really that hard to teach Ichigo a new move?
 
Jjp7123 said:
HokageMangaVox said:
Jjp7123 said:
True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
Doesn't he already spam more than 2 getsuga's at the same time? He also haves that new form from the new chapter. Also, did everyone forget during the Ulquiorra fight Ichigo cover his sword in a Getsuga to make his blade strike as hard as a getsuga?
It's the same move though, even if he holds it in his sword. I want to know if he's capable of firing a Cero consciously. Is it really that hard to teach Ichigo a new move?
ichigo is a all around kind of guy.

1 super speed 2 super strength 3 fly 5 hollow mask 6 getsuga.

so he gets speed strength flys and def and power. ichigo not goku with lots of blast.

like would you say the flash has no power just because he has speed. no

lol people flying is a power. speed is a power super armour is a power strenth is a power. getsuga is a power. all his forms are powers. just because he does not have many blast powers
 
Jjp7123 said:
It's the same move though, even if he holds it in his sword. I want to know if he's capable of firing a Cero consciously. Is it really that hard to teach Ichigo a new move?
Let's just say that Kubo isn't particularly imaginative or inventive when it comes to powering up the heroes. Not to mention the fact that everyone is critically incompetent and tactically inept (Nanao invents a Kido spell that temporarily nullifies Quincy abilities... doesn't teach it to anyone, Shunsui sends Unohana to her death just to power up Kenpachi, sacrificing their single best healer and allowing countless Shinigami to be maimed or killed by the initial Quincy onslaught e.t.c.)
 
Kubo is lazy, I swear. I would have been giving Ichigo like 2 or 3 moves at least. So how do you think Ichigo will beat that hax Yhwach?
 
Anime444 said:
Jjp7123 said:
HokageMangaVox said:
Jjp7123 said:
True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
Doesn't he already spam more than 2 getsuga's at the same time? He also haves that new form from the new chapter. Also, did everyone forget during the Ulquiorra fight Ichigo cover his sword in a Getsuga to make his blade strike as hard as a getsuga?
It's the same move though, even if he holds it in his sword. I want to know if he's capable of firing a Cero consciously. Is it really that hard to teach Ichigo a new move?
ichigo is a all around kind of guy.
1 super speed 2 super strength 3 fly 5 hollow mask 6 getsuga.

so he gets speed strength flys and def and power. ichigo not goku with lots of blast.

like would you say the flash has no power just because he has speed. no

lol people flying is a power. speed is a power super armour is a power strenth is a power. getsuga is a power. all his forms are powers. just because he does not have many blast powers
At least The Flash has a decent amount of hax under his belt. All Ichigo does is Getsuga Tenshou and speedblitz.
 
ok in all of bleach all there ever was as speed and getsuga.

so theres no hollow mask. and he did not destroy a mountain with just strength. and ichigo cant fly. and i no full hollow. and blue vain and cero.

so you never seen them things
 
I think someone's are forgetting something.

It's Human/Quincy/Shinigami/Hollow/Vizard/Fullbringer (technically he still is one)
 
Anime444 said:
ok in all of bleach all there ever was as speed and getsuga.
so theres no hollow mask. and he did not destroy a mountain with just strength. and ichigo cant fly. and i no full hollow. and blue vain and cero.

so you never seen them things
Yeah, I've seen them. It just that Getsuga Tensho for the most part is the only offensive move he knows, which gets countered and avoided all the time.
 
Was it really that hard to make an Arc of Ichigo going through the academy instead of the fullbring arc? He could had learn kido. Or Cero, Shinji can do it with the mask on.
 
Going through the academy when he has no powers? And if he did, it would seem out of place. I mean usually there would be an antagonist and he would just wait for Ichigo to finish his training? Seems weird to me. But I agree that Ichigo needs new moves.
 
He has Mugetsu and Cero, but they're too situational. Mugetsu took all of his Shinigami Powers and not reusable, and Cero requires him to be properly transformed.
 
Urahara could have use that sword to give him the powers back, uner Yamamoto's orders, so he could enter the academy a learn the right way. They would had to reveal Isshin as a Shiba to get him in, since they were a noble family. Ginjo could had been the villan, maybe another student, a rebel or even the teacher. He backstory would be different. They could had even make him Aizen's son. Revenge or free his father to many ideas with little time.
 
But that right there. Why would Ichigo want or be given his powers back if there was no antagonist? Aizen was the main one and he was defeated (not even defeated but yeah). So Bleach could have ended there. And the reason Kubo did the Fullbring arc was to focus on Chad. but I heard he was rushed to end it so he couldn't do much.
 
KuuIchigo said:
Why would Ichigo want or be given his powers back if there was no antagonist?
Because he feels powerless to protect his friends, he explain this in the Fullbring arc that for month he couldnt find away to get his powers back. Iirc it was before throwing the badge to the river.
 
Yeah, he did. But only then did he proceeded to get his powers back because of the antagonist. If Ginjo wasn't there, Ichigo would have probably went on with his normal life.
 
A person who kepts searching power after 17 months, doesn't want a normal life like he said. If some one close to him offer him the chance to see Rukia, Renji and all the others again would he take it? Do you even saw how he reacted when his friend were fighting hollows and he couldn't follow after them.
 
Lets agree to disagree since this is getting off-topic. But I don't believe he would - if he really wanted to, he would have went to Kisuke; the person who helped him get his powers back at the beginning of the series. But that would have depended if Bleach was going to keep going after Aizen.
 
Lets say he does gets his powers back because he wanted to meet Rukia and others again, what would make him go to the academy and learn? Hollows are fodders so I don't think he needs kido or anything. Aizen is sealed and there is no one else to defeat. I could only see him going to the academy as way for Kubo to end Bleach. And if you say there is going to be another antagonist, Ichigo won't have time to go learn. Everyone would be focused on the bad guy and his group. But I digress, we should wait a few more chapters to see if it's needed to change his classification.
 
Simple, Soul Society could offer him or in exchange for giving him his powers he needs to go through basics in the academy. Knowing his father is a one he would want to go, he would also have more time to spent with everyone, his other friends can take care of the hollows like they have been doing for 17 months. There are so many ways to do it, it doesn't even need to be forced.
 
But Soul Society wouldn't do that. The only reason why they gave Ichigo his powers back was because of Ginjou. This all goes back to needing an antagonist. And say what you will, the fullbring arc was suppose to be about Chad powers and not Ichigo getting his powers back. The editor was rushing Kubo to bring in the shinigamis so it ended up like that. We can have this convo on my wall if you want so we don't de-rail the thread (even though we did, sorry).
 
Let's say the plot isn't necessarily and strictly meta or out-of-universe. Since people literally plotted to use Ichigo's power, and some intentionally suppressed his power, so they can't be instantaneously interrupted by Ichigo, being used to further power themselves and some are wondering what he actually is.
 
"Human/Shinigami/Hollow/Quincy hybrid" seems fine.
 
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