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Mary Sues do not necessarily win every fight, but are just so special compared to the rest of the cast that the plot revolves around them, everyone can't stop mentioning how special they are, and generally possess good looks of some kind (which Ichigo does given the art style).Jjp7123 said:Human, Shinigami, Hollow, Fullbringer and Quincy.Also, Ichigo is not a Mary Sue, not even close. If he was, he'd going Vasto Lorde/Vollsstaentig Fusion mode and kicking Yhwach's ass by now.
Because Ichigo is a one-dimensional fighter. If he can't fire a cero, quincy arrows or absorb reishi, what makes you think he can master Vasto Lorde or Vollsstaentig? He struggles to hone and master his true power and potential.Matthew Schroeder said:Why do you doubt that won't happen in the end?
thats true i think its called train as you go.HokageMangaVox said:That moment when you realize that Ichigo only train 3 times in the whole series. Urahara taught him the basics to fight, Yoruichi teach him Bankai and Ginjo taught him Fullbring. While Yhwach/Fake Zangetsu taught him to never give up. Everything else is self thought, why do you think he can only spam Getsuga Tensho? Ichigo is a noob with everything at his disposal, yet look how strong he is without having master anything besides his fake bankai.
True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time. I would have taught myself to fight more like Hollow Ichigo.HokageMangaVox said:That moment when you realize that Ichigo only train 3 times in the whole series. Urahara taught him the basics to fight, Yoruichi teach him Bankai and Ginjo taught him Fullbring. While Yhwach/Fake Zangetsu taught him to never give up. Everything else is self thought, why do you think he can only spam Getsuga Tensho? Ichigo is a noob with everything at his disposal, yet look how strong he is without having master anything besides his fake bankai.
he did not have time. when he train with the vizards it tuck all his time to contol his mask. and in the palace he has got new moves that how he has this new form.Jjp7123 said:True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.HokageMangaVox said:That moment when you realize that Ichigo only train 3 times in the whole series. Urahara taught him the basics to fight, Yoruichi teach him Bankai and Ginjo taught him Fullbring. While Yhwach/Fake Zangetsu taught him to never give up. Everything else is self thought, why do you think he can only spam Getsuga Tensho? Ichigo is a noob with everything at his disposal, yet look how strong he is without having master anything besides his fake bankai.
Doesn't he already spam more than 2 getsuga's at the same time? He also haves that new form from the new chapter. Also, did everyone forget during the Ulquiorra fight Ichigo cover his sword in a Getsuga to make his blade strike as hard as a getsuga?Jjp7123 said:True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
It's the same move though, even if he holds it in his sword. I want to know if he's capable of firing a Cero consciously. Is it really that hard to teach Ichigo a new move?HokageMangaVox said:Doesn't he already spam more than 2 getsuga's at the same time? He also haves that new form from the new chapter. Also, did everyone forget during the Ulquiorra fight Ichigo cover his sword in a Getsuga to make his blade strike as hard as a getsuga?Jjp7123 said:True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
ichigo is a all around kind of guy.Jjp7123 said:It's the same move though, even if he holds it in his sword. I want to know if he's capable of firing a Cero consciously. Is it really that hard to teach Ichigo a new move?HokageMangaVox said:Doesn't he already spam more than 2 getsuga's at the same time? He also haves that new form from the new chapter. Also, did everyone forget during the Ulquiorra fight Ichigo cover his sword in a Getsuga to make his blade strike as hard as a getsuga?Jjp7123 said:True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
Let's just say that Kubo isn't particularly imaginative or inventive when it comes to powering up the heroes. Not to mention the fact that everyone is critically incompetent and tactically inept (Nanao invents a Kido spell that temporarily nullifies Quincy abilities... doesn't teach it to anyone, Shunsui sends Unohana to her death just to power up Kenpachi, sacrificing their single best healer and allowing countless Shinigami to be maimed or killed by the initial Quincy onslaught e.t.c.)Jjp7123 said:It's the same move though, even if he holds it in his sword. I want to know if he's capable of firing a Cero consciously. Is it really that hard to teach Ichigo a new move?
At least The Flash has a decent amount of hax under his belt. All Ichigo does is Getsuga Tenshou and speedblitz.Anime444 said:ichigo is a all around kind of guy.Jjp7123 said:It's the same move though, even if he holds it in his sword. I want to know if he's capable of firing a Cero consciously. Is it really that hard to teach Ichigo a new move?HokageMangaVox said:Doesn't he already spam more than 2 getsuga's at the same time? He also haves that new form from the new chapter. Also, did everyone forget during the Ulquiorra fight Ichigo cover his sword in a Getsuga to make his blade strike as hard as a getsuga?Jjp7123 said:True. But still if I was in Ichigo's position, I would have taught myself a new move while training with the vizards or Soul King Palace... instead of two getsugas at the same time.
1 super speed 2 super strength 3 fly 5 hollow mask 6 getsuga.
so he gets speed strength flys and def and power. ichigo not goku with lots of blast.
like would you say the flash has no power just because he has speed. no
lol people flying is a power. speed is a power super armour is a power strenth is a power. getsuga is a power. all his forms are powers. just because he does not have many blast powers
Yeah, I've seen them. It just that Getsuga Tensho for the most part is the only offensive move he knows, which gets countered and avoided all the time.Anime444 said:ok in all of bleach all there ever was as speed and getsuga.
so theres no hollow mask. and he did not destroy a mountain with just strength. and ichigo cant fly. and i no full hollow. and blue vain and cero.
so you never seen them things
Because he feels powerless to protect his friends, he explain this in the Fullbring arc that for month he couldnt find away to get his powers back. Iirc it was before throwing the badge to the river.KuuIchigo said:Why would Ichigo want or be given his powers back if there was no antagonist?