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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Zabazab said:
Scaling from Long or maybe even Nail Devil should be fine
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ah yeah, the nail fiend one (thats supersonic), its been made since a while and still waiting for evaluation, tho snail doesnt look like a very low tier, low to mid as at least they could make it so Asa (post fear boost) had to kick Lil´d away like she did with katana man was gonna break the wall
Arkenis said:
Doesn't Kobeni have a hypersonic feat?
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which one? an anime one? because of the anime canonicity discussion i was looking for mainly manga scaling
 
Breadbear83 said:
because of the anime canonicity discussion i was looking for mainly manga scaling
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Anime canonicity won't affect every feat, that discussion is based on anime-original scenes. You can use the anime for timeframes of feats and for clarification. The anime is the main reason why the supersonic+ Angel calc is bunk, since the anime shows he moved before the trigger was pulled.

So things like Kishibe blitzing Denji & Power in the anime is still A-Ok.
 
I'm pretty sure the anime will be fine. I can't say the same for the movie though. However, I don't believe that anime has much to offer regardless. The direction choice butchers fast paced movement. The manga is many times better in that factor.
 
Assuming by thread you mean speed CRT. That drops whenever the left over calcs get evaluated.
GunshyFever said:
Alright, so considering a scenario where the movie canon thread gets rejected, I had a moment where I was like, "Hey, why don't we just calculate feats that were already in the manga, but that the movie gives us a better look at and are not wanked or exaggerated?" So I am going to cherry pick those scenes regarding speed and we can determine calcs and results from there on.

Feats (Uncalculated):

Feats (Calculated):
Yeah, 3 feats BUT consistent numbers. If these get created and evaled along with the Kishibe feat and both of these. We should be good to go.
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Basically like 3 calcs.
 
I had speculated that Makima could be killed by an accident, like a natural disaster, so I'm quite pleased Fujimoto confirmed that with Yoru.
 
If someone blows up the country, and the debris gets sent flying and hours later falls back down and hits Makima, would she die?
 
Arkenis said:
If someone blows up the country, and the debris gets sent flying and hours later falls back down and hits Makima, would she die?
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Probably not cause technically speaking if someone blows up a country it'd be viewed from their perspective as an "attack" and it depends on the view of the person who made the action so she'd probably still live even if it's debris hours later cause it's still from that "attack"
 
GunshyFever said:
Assuming by thread you mean speed CRT. That drops whenever the left over calcs get evaluated.

Basically like 3 calcs.
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Eljoaki already accepted my Beam dashes towards rezee manga calc ,after his recommendations it got to Mach 0.89, so its a supporting calc as rezee did it the rezee dashes towards makima in manga and movie barely gets to Lower ends of subsonic in highballs cuz the timeframe hardly can get arguments of it being faster than SuperHuman reaction blitz (0.08 seconds) and rezee and makima are hardly even 5 meters away of each other , so its also likely a supporting calc the movie beam one its still missing tho, idk how to calc it tbh
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Probably not cause technically speaking if someone blows up a country it'd be viewed from their perspective as an "attack" and it depends on the view of the person who made the action so she'd probably still live even if it's debris hours later cause it's still from that "attack"
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what if they accidentally tripped and their energy just happened to hit the ground?
 
AbaddonTheDisappointment said:
Probably not cause technically speaking if someone blows up a country it'd be viewed from their perspective as an "attack" and it depends on the view of the person who made the action so she'd probably still live even if it's debris hours later cause it's still from that "attack"
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now that you say, we could say makimas and yorus contracts may partly be based on their perceptions of whats attacking them, and so they could be delusional about them, when Yoru was hit by falling from the motorcycle, she could have just blamed gravity as attacking her and regenerate, after all her delusion knows no bounds
 
Breadbear83 said:
now that you say, we could say makimas and yorus contracts may partly be based on their perceptions of whats attacking them, and so they could be delusional about them, when Yoru was hit by falling from the motorcycle, she could have just blamed gravity as attacking her and regenerate, after all her delusion knows no bounds
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Now that you mention gravity, what if she believes she owns gravity? Would she just have gravity manip like a bomb or would she create gravity gauntlets?
 
Arkenis said:
Now that you mention gravity, what if she believes she owns gravity? Would she just have gravity manip like a bomb or would she create gravity gauntlets?
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she was already manipulating gravity in chapter 220 by making her and pochita stand upside down in the doors to hell in the sky (in that double panel where she talks shit about now having friends, love and allat) , likely because she has Falling Devil as her clothing, but dumbass didnt use it to not get injured by the motorcycle
 
Breadbear83 said:
she was already manipulating gravity in chapter 220 by making her and pochita stand upside down in the doors to hell in the sky (in that double panel where she talks shit about now having friends, love and allat) , likely because she has Falling Devil as her clothing, but dumbass didnt use it to not get injured by the motorcycle
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Nah, that was just pure Yoru.
 
Arkenis said:
what if they accidentally tripped and their energy just happened to hit the ground?
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I was under the impression someone in CSM blew up a country as an attack in some way (cause how tf do u accidentally do that) but if thats the case yeah she's probably dead as ****

Breadbear83 said:
now that you say, we could say makimas and yorus contracts may partly be based on their perceptions of whats attacking them, and so they could be delusional about them, when Yoru was hit by falling from the motorcycle, she could have just blamed gravity as attacking her and regenerate, after all her delusion knows no bounds
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Yoru is delusional, but her delusions of ownership are kind of dependent on actual man-made things for the most part cause those are mostly her domain. Something like gravity is outside that and I think even she isn't delusional enough to think that a neutral and fundamental force like gravity is somehow working against her.

Watch me say this and she does some shit like that next chapter and say she owns gravity or that gravity is fighting her
 
Arkenis said:
Nah, that was just pure Yoru.
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how come? just cuz she got much stronger doesnt mean she got that gravity manipulation by herself, primal devils doesnt naturally have gravity manipulation as an ability because of being so strong, its exclusive to Falling Devil and so it would make a lot of sense if it was Falling Devil clothing that let her do that//////// i do believe that she at least making the doors to hell is a natural ability because of being primal devil level, as darkness devil, locust devil and falling, by only sharing the common trait of being very strong, could make them, and seemingly denjiman could to (unless it was a door left on the ground by Yoru)
 
Breadbear83 said:
how come? just cuz she got much stronger doesnt mean she got that gravity manipulation by herself, primal devils doesnt naturally have gravity manipulation as an ability because of being so strong, its exclusive to Falling Devil and so it would make a lot of sense if it was Falling Devil clothing that let her do that i do believe that she at least making the doors to hell is a natural ability because of being primal devil level, as darkness devil, locust devil and falling, by only sharing the common trait of being very strong, could make them, and seemingly denjiman could to (unless it was a door left on the ground by Yoru)
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That's just how war works.
 
Arkenis said:
That's just how war works.
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Doesn't seem like much of a match. Titan's only win con could be the soul dmg while both have basically the same regen and no put downs. DD has type 3 madness as well.
 
Arkenis said:
Doesn't seem like much of a match. Titan's only win con could be the soul dmg while both have basically the same regen and no put downs. DD has type 3 madness as well.
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DD doesn't have soul damage regeneration in his profile I think. And madness wouldn't work on mindless being
 
Qurbonboev said:
DD doesn't have soul damage regeneration in his profile I think. And madness wouldn't work on mindless being
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Well yeah but that still leaves DD without a way to overcome Titan's regen. Either just ends in a incon with DD just leaving so he doesn't gotta put up with a pointless battle or tries and dies over time from soul dmg.
 
Arkenis said:
Either just ends in a incon with DD just leaving so he doesn't gotta put up with a pointless battle or tries and dies over time from soul dmg.
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Leaving a battlefield is Self-BFR and loss. So stomp either way, sadly.
Thanks anyways
 
Thought they were saying "Lowk". They are likely talking about the Gun Goddess calc, which will not be removed.

Primals physically scaling to it will be removed though.
 
GunshyFever said:
Thought they were saying "Lowk". They are likely talking about the Gun Goddess calc, which will not be removed.

Primals physically scaling to it will be removed though.
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Will they just scale to the mountain explosion feat?
 
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