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Not only you, I'm spreading peak to everyone
jk I'll read it in a bit tho idk why you are asking me specificaly
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Chainsaw Man discussion thread
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Bruh
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Why lower ?and dang, going back to High 7-C but at a much lower value
Ruby_R_Dracula
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idk, but the recalc was like 140+ Kilotons of smth, and I'm pretty sure the old calc before the mountain stuff was like 500+ Kilotons
Bruh
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So what you're saying is Makima's High 7-C TK can actually do stuff now
Ruby_R_Dracula
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yeah ig
Ruby_R_Dracula
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and ig P1 Pochita has a higher chance against sukuna
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it was around 700+ kilotons if Iirc
Ruby_R_Dracula
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wasn't the 700+ Jogo's Meteor calc?
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actually yeah looking at it was that one
I dont remember the value of the original earthquake calc
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It was 514 kilotons
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Was it 500+ kilotons?
Think that was the other one before the alterations
Think that was the other one before the alterations
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dawg we need to coordinate calcs and evaluate before posting because its like an message from God atp
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I do wonder if Asa using bang more or less point blank to herself could mean anything
Ruby_R_Dracula
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I'm not gonna shut it down, but we're probably going to have to wait a bit to see if it's an outlier or not
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Oh yeah obviously wait and see. But still. Would be nice to help get some good buffs to Denji as I am bias towards him
Zabazab
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The implication earlier was that she can kill herself with Bang, before she asked Denji to kill her.
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We love Denji, but cmon
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Yeah, a direct hit from it would kill her. Even Yoru was scared straight just from Asa risking it. After it fires, it causes great destruction. Think of it like shooting a rocket launcher near you, you might survive a nearby explosion, but you can't survive a direct hit. That's what I think we're talking about here.
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I mean I’m just saying buffs would be nice.
Not gonna push for it until move evidence comes in.
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We don't need buffs tho, 8-A Denji is more than enough. Best you set your crosshairs to Yoru
VoidGoji
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My thoughts on Asa/Yoru tanking Bang: Probably not at full output. We know they can control it to an extent (from just tearing a person's limbs off to just casually blasting through a building, and the whole 7-B). Would be funny to see 7-B PFB Yoru throwing teh scaling out of the window. Also, Falling kinda got better scaling by APPARENTLY swatting Yoru like a fly. Tho on the other hand, Yoru didn't seem actually hurt, just buried in the hubries
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I cannot stress enough how much I despise the headcanon that Yoru can control the potency of her gun gauntlet. She has only ever shown control over the range or output in terms of how large the projectile is, not its AP. That is something she cannot control.
This is why Yoru was freaking out when Asa pulled that risky move, because if it had directly hit them, they would have been crippled for life or even killed, especially considering her hands were stuck around her waist. You can't change the speed of a moving bullet, all she controls is its size.
Yoru obviously isn’t going to get 7-B scaling from something that can outright kill her. Sure, she got caught in the epicenter of the explosion, that’s impressive, and we can discuss whether she can logically scale or tier from that.
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Ok being serious for a moment and ignroing denji bias.
Isn't there an argument for downscaling to baseline City level here (As the feat is presented. I'm not gonna argue this legitly until more info comes in.)? yoru obviously withstood a good amount of the damage, but full damage would kill her.
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well I mean Falling is a primal fear no? she's just weakened at the moment.
Zabazab
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MSPaint eraser tool on a high-rise vs leaving a small crater on the ground... I think she can probably control the power behind a shot.
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No, she can't be downscaled to baseline City level because the projectile itself is what upscales from City level. The projectile from the Gun Gauntlet gets its scaling from Fear-Boosted Pochita, who is physically at a Primal level and superior to the Gun Devil.
Yoru and Asa were hit by the explosion caused by the projectile, not the bullet itself. This significantly reduces the backlash, as they were only affected by the resulting explosion and debris, not the direct impact of the projectile. I've already explained that if they had been hit by the bullet itself, it would have killed them.
Even then, scaling Yoru’s durability to baseline City level or even attempting to downscale from it would be an outlier without substantial evidence. It's a massive jump from 8-A to 7-B, which is over a million times teir jump in terms of power. That kind of scaling would place her on par with Primal Fears, which would require a direct statement or clear evidence to justify. Clearly Yoru isn't on that level yet, she can’t even lever a building off herself. That’s something Part 1 Pochita, who was only stronger than the 20% Gun could do for breakfast.
All I can say is that her Gun Gauntlets should be at least as durable, if not more durable than 28% Gun. And that's it.
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Not at all. Take Makima for example. She can expand the size of her "bang" attack to engulf an entire torso or shrink it down to the size of a nail hole in her palm. The fact is, it's just as potent regardless of size.
Yoru isn't much different. As we've discussed before, the "bang" that Pochita received, which scales to City level was also miniature and had a small surface area. That’s just how her ability works. Yoru's Gun Gauntlet also has crazy backlash against any surface it hits, and it results to an explosion.
Think of it as AP and not destruction wise, in MSPaint, that eraser tools, uh..."AP" would be the same, it just has the ability to morph its size, which therfore reduces the overall size of it's "destruction" but AP remains constant.
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- Feat: Asa was afraid human Denji could kill her with a chair.
- Fact: Asa is just as durable as Yoru.
- Conclusion: Human Denji w/ Chair is 8-A.
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Conclusion: Denji is Vergil from DMC5
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Chat this means Nayutas not dead because Nero lost only his arm in DMC 5, therefore Barem only took her arm and shes alive
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Denji bouta gain a W against Guts btw
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8-A Denji vs Guts?
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WHERES THE CHAINSAW DEVIL! (Invincible vs Chainsaw Man) (Mismatch and Stomp)
The Man of Many Faces The Immortal vs The Hero of Hell Pochita Rules SBA Speed Equalized Part 2 Pochita will be used Comics Immortal will be used by anything beyond his 7-B is restricted (So no High 6-C Immortal) Battle will take place in Morioh Pt 4 Stats and Votes Pochita AP and...
WHERE IS THE CHAINSAW DEVIL!?!?! WHERE IS HE?!?!?
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Tokyo ghoul got island level, JJK trying to get to mountain level with tons of support, why not chainsaw man bruh, fraudulent hax merchant verse...
Anyways, does anyone here know who's the best CGM skill wise? I ain't gonna wait until the 6th bump man...
Anyways, does anyone here know who's the best CGM skill wise? I ain't gonna wait until the 6th bump man...
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WHERES THE CHAINSAW DEVIL! (Invincible vs Chainsaw Man) (Mismatch and Stomp)
The Man of Many Faces The Immortal vs The Hero of Hell Pochita Rules SBA Speed Equalized Part 2 Pochita will be used Comics Immortal will be used by anything beyond his 7-B is restricted (So no High 6-C Immortal) Battle will take place in Morioh Pt 4 Stats and Votes Pochita AP and...vsbattles.com
WHERE IS THE CHAINSAW DEVIL!?!?! WHERE IS HE?!?!?
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I get it, but counterpoint: Fakesaw being stronger than a Fear-Boosted Pochita would be really, really dumb.
And you can't just wave it off as only the chainsaws being absurdly strong like a Spear Man moment; Fakesaw outright took less knockback than Pochita did upon changing the Bang's trajectory, despite being weak according to Denji. And a hole-punched Pochita should still be leagues stronger than Hybrid Denji.
Chainsaws have been stronger than one's physicals, but not by absurdly huge degrees. One of Pochita's outright broke from Makima's 4 Bangs while his body was injured, and they also got dusted with the rest of him against the Gun Goddess. And Denji's performances- namely getting turned into a burnt nugget against Reze- also show a similar relationship. There's no reason why Fakesaw's saws should be literally hundreds of thousands of times tougher than the rest of him.
Give it a rest dude. Mountain level's already pushing my comfort zone tbh.
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Ngl I thought it would be a funny matchup only to find out its a stomp
dawg we are getting our ass beat cause we getting a new downgrade every few hours its insane
like we got note just a couple of hours ago that the only 8-A calc we got atm got downgraded to 8-B
Zabazab
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Creating a huge hole in a building and creating a not-so-deep crater on the road still is a gap beyond just the simple gap in shot size, I feel.
Also looking back, it's really funny how Makima's Bang erased Power's torso and cratered the wall begind her, but Yoru's Bang just became neutralized upon blowing up the Chainsaw-Zombies who jumped in front of Twinsaw.
Right? And that's a single special attack that may not even scale to anyone else.
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