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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Zabazab said:
Ok this has been repeated so many times now, even on her profile, and I have no idea why because Makima did not use her Telekinesis on Darkness Devil.

Makima used her hax that makes the target bleed from every hole in their body, seen when she used in on the Mafia & even was used an extra time in the anime. In fact, DD was using similar hax just panels before it interacted with Makima.

Makima pointed, but she did not use a finger gun, and did not say "Bang." Most importantly, the damage to DD was very clearly not external, which her telekinesis would have caused if it was used.
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Still doesn't change the fact that she was able to severely damage the Darkness Devil with this attack like this yet was utterly shitstomped by the Chainsaw Devil when she was trying to beat him

If she had this in her arsenal the entire time and the Chainsaw Devil is supposedly weaker than the Darkness Devil then why didn't she use it?

The clear insinuation here is that Chainsaw Devil scales above the Primal Fears based on what we've seen so far
 
Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
Still doesn't change the fact that she was able to severely damage the Darkness Devil with this attack like this yet was utterly shitstomped by the Chainsaw Devil when she was trying to beat him
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I don't think DD was damaged very much by that attack though, only staggered. Yes, it bled profusely for a moment, but it immediately returned to normal and won the next two interactions against Makima, crumpling her arm and impaling her respectively.

Shmeatywerbenmanjenson said:
If she had this in her arsenal the entire time and the Chainsaw Devil is supposedly weaker than the Darkness Devil then why didn't she use it?
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You can say this for several very useful abilities she could have used, such as Curse Devil which could just kill Pochita pretty easily. There could be a number of reasons not to use it, but considering it's hax it doesn't really matter whether Pochita is stronger or not if you're asking "Why not use it?"

We see that she makes "Denji" fight her hand to hand to fully prove to herself she's superior, so it could be that winning via hax wouldn't allow her to percieve herself as stronger? Though I'm mostly speculating there.

Ultimately I think if Pochita was > DD/Primal Fears, it wouldn't be the case that he's "Targeted and killed by many Devils" while Primals "Have never once experienced death".
 
Zabazab said:
I don't think DD was damaged very much by that attack though, only staggered. Yes, it bled profusely for a moment, but it immediately returned to normal and won the next two interactions against Makima, crumpling her arm and impaling her respectively.
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The fact that it spit blood means that it got damaged. Even though it's not a lot, it's still damage
Zabazab said:
You can say this for several very useful abilities she could have used, such as Curse Devil which could just kill Pochita pretty easily
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not to be that guy, but the curse devil gets clowned on almost every time in the series 💀 . he didn't kill samurai sword, almost killed denji but he came back through blood, it might even possible that Pochita could've fight back against Curse and kill it, since that's what it did against Hell Devil who tried to BFR him
 
Emerald said:
The fact that it spit blood means that it got damaged. Even though it's not a lot, it's still damage
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If it is a hax ability, which it appears to be, that does not matter.

Emerald said:
he didn't kill samurai sword, almost killed denji but he came back through blood
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Curse Devil is stupidly op, it just so happened to get used on 2 Hybrids which are completely immortal.

Emerald said:
possible that Pochita could've fight back against Curse and kill it, since that's what it did against Hell Devil who tried to BFR him
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That's not exactly what happened, Hell Devil's mission was to kill & BFR Makima which is why it took on a physical form first- to kill her. Of course Pochits killed it easily, but he couldn't stop it from sending him to hell. He only returned by breaking back through the doors to Hell that we can see in Hell's sky.
 
Would Curse Devil even be able to keep Pochita down for very long, considering it wasn't even able to keep Denji and Katana Man down despite them having more limited regen?
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Pochita could just break free from the TK hold and kill it before it could even apply it's effect.
 
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Denji (Chainsaw Man) VS Cassie Cage (Mortal Kombat) Both are High 8-C (Chainsaw Man Denji and Inner Power Cassie are used here) Speed is Equalised Denji: 7 (Sir sun man, Naitodesu, MintyBoi1, Emerald, Zabazab, Epiccheev, Mariogoods) Cassie: Inconclusive:
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Does it make any sense to calc LS from Makima's Bang? We currently treat the ability as TK, and it has previously been shown to cause an almost crushing force at whatever it hits
 
Given Darkness Devil was able to just snatch the Stone Devil out of it's own hax, I could see Pochita cutting up the Curse Devil as it tries to death hax him, yeah.

But assuming Pochita gets killed by it, he could indeed just resurrect like Denji was able to after his starter was pulled.

Emerald said:
Does it make any sense to calc LS from Makima's Bang?
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Eh, the manga treats it as a singular blast, and nobody actually tanks it without getting tossed back. But there's one instance where it might be considered "pushing" and qualify for LS, which was when Makima held the word "Baaaang" to extend the application of the force, when she launched Pochita into space.
 
Honestly it makes the manga really cool to read, but at the same time very hard to scale... like we can't even fathom what happened when Makima and DD pointed at each other. The fact that DD was trying to get Makima to show up is pretty interesting though.
 
Jujutsu kaisen will have like 3 pages of verbose explaining every single step of how an ability works, then the ability gets likened to some real world phenomenom, then the author himself will further explain it on interviews and release a novel/databook with even more info on how it works.

Meanwhile Chainsawman will have an unamed power with 2 panels of abstract art as the other character drops dead and then we never hear or see it again.
 
Epiccheev said:
Jujutsu kaisen will have like 3 pages of verbose explaining every single step of how an ability works, then the ability gets likened to some real world phenomenom, then the author himself will further explain it on interviews and release a novel/databook with even more info on how it works.

Meanwhile Chainsawman will have an unamed power with 2 panels of abstract art as the other character drops dead and then we never hear or see it again.
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On god, like literally what the **** is this
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Giannysmag said:
On god, like literally what the ***** is this
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If this shit was JJK they would say Makima just summoned a hyperspace black hole, beyond the 3 cardinal dimensions that leads to an infinite expanding void, and the ray is Hawkins radiation concentrated into a single point, moving at 0.99999999999993% the speed of light that is capable of atomizing anything it touches


It's Spatial Manipulation
 
Speaking of Angel Devil, he has Immortality negation & Regen negation on his profile, but the explanation doesn't really make sense?

It uses "killed Reze" as the justification, but you don't need to negate a Hybrid's regen to kill them because they need to drink blood or pull their trigger to activate their regen/resurrection, which Makima prevented by pulling Reze's hand away from her pin.

Frankly having Type 2 Immortality for hybrids doesn't make much sense unless it's extremely limited.
 
Also isn't the whole thing is that they are 100% immortal? That's why they come back again and again, and why the Hybrids are still alive even during Part 2
I feel like Angel shouldn't have Regen and Immortality Neg at all
 
Fr, it isn't even a Hidan type situation where the body is incapped but the body parts can still function by themselves/they keep their conscience.
All it does is make you be able to revive them with blood after being "killed"
 
I'm pretty sure the only immortality that Hybrids have which Devils lack is Type 4, which Pochita was the sole exception to prior to becoming Denji's heart.
 
The new fiend does have their brain spilling out, but it can't be a new Cosmos.

The obvious guess is that this is the Nail Fiend, since it's in the title. Reminds me of Nobara tbh.
 
We do see the distance the gunmen are from the door on page 5, and it could be compared to how far "Nail Fiend" is from the door to approximate a distance, but it is tricky I think.
 
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