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I'll add it in OP .Agree, btw Official QnA.
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Celestialsapiens HDE needs a revision
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ShionAH
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Still effecting a higher dimension is no HDE. Its apples and oranges
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That same QnA says that Alien X cannot survive the destruction of a timeline.Agree, btw Official QnA.
"So, one Celestialsapien pulled into Vladius's grip would definitely perish. But, if a group of Celestialsapiens got together and were able to agree internally and externally to combat the planet, they would all be able to survive. The answer is the same for Omniversal and Timeline destruction."
It is also said that Alien X is not Omnipotent (Something that is contradicted by the same series and by numerous WoG statements an infinite number of times).
"In the case of ALIEN X, the very presence of Ben's DNA in the mix means that ALIEN X is not omnipotent because Ben is not Omnipotent."
I would not say that this QnA is reliable...
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learn you, the barrier is not a pocket dimension
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"Anur Vladias" is literally headcanon made by some random dude on the Ben 10 wiki.
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Alien X has already been downgraded to 4D
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There many QnAs that has been found DoTa, we still accept QnAs that aren't contradicted by the series and supported by other sources. There is only one QnA that is wrong in this entire QnAs.
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That's only for his HDE
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That is true? Where is the CRT?
ShionAH
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If we use the QnAs we have to use all of it. So Low 2-C dura
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I was just quoting what the QnA itself says, and I guess what you said proves even more that the QnA is unreliable as a source for treating Alien X as not bound by dimensions.
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Maybe less, since the QnA is supposed to imply that a Celestialsapien could not survive the destruction of a timeline by itself xdd.
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As I said, just because a single information from any guidebook is wrong doesn't discredit the entire guidebook if other informations is not contradicted. So unless this particular Answer is contradicted, we gotta go with it.
ShionAH
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Reiner. The QnA has a insane anti feat and a HEADCANON chacter. How tf can we use it?
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Are we forgotting we use duncan Statements and twitter statements despite many of his answers has been contradicted? And this same applies to any other verse, just because a single Answer of someone is contradicted doesn't mean all of his answers should be discredited. Just because a single Statement in some guidebook has been contradicted doesn't discredit entire Guidebook.
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He won't get range upgrade with this.This is a HDE upgrade.
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I know.
It had never been proposed or accepted by staff members. Only for some reason the supporters found it and put it up anyway. Speaking of HDE
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There are 3 contradictory things in that QnA.
1) Saying that a Celestialsapien cannot survive the destruction of a timeline by itself.
2) Say that Alien X is not Omnipotent.
3) Also, there they say that it is not limited by dimensions, and in another comment they say that it is Multi-dimensional (which if I understand correctly, it means that it is limited by dimensions, but it simply has many dimensions)
ShionAH
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Actually, GoW made a similar thing: One of the devs had like one or two extremely unreliable tweets and then they started to ignore bid everything
Basically some people or some QnAs can have a few stuff that are just straight up stupid then we can disregard all
How do we know they also didnt change their mind about the dimension and omnipotence? Seems unreliable.So ?
Writers can change their mind duhhhh
Sadly theres no HDE in the CRT. Effecting a higher dimensional object is NOT HDE
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yikes
i dont think we should use author statements like these
just the contumelia stuff as evidence
i dont think we should use author statements like these
just the contumelia stuff as evidence
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Jeez, seems to make sense.
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1) yeah that's DoTa but irrelevant since it's not the particular Answer we are talking about.
2) He was never Omnipotent. So it's not a contradiction.
3) We are arguing him being Higher D/extra D, not beyond D so it's not a contradiction either
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We do if they are official QnAs rather than Twitter pulling out smth, also they're stated to transcend our plane of Existence that has been referred as Spacetime continuum by paradox in the episode ben 10 Alien force paradox.
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he was stated many times to be omnipotent
that is literally what a contradiction is. it said that he is not limited by dimensions and yet the mf says he is a multi dimensional being
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Are we arguing Alien X to be Omnipotent?
You can be Extra-Dimensional and not limited to 4 Dimensions by having extra Dimensions than 4 Dimensional spacetime continuum.
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1) Contradicting something so obvious makes the source unreliable.
2) In the series, characters refer to Alien X as "omnipotent" at least 6 times, he is also called omnipotent by various WoG statements.
3) The QnA says explicitly that it is not limited by dimensions, that is to say that it is above dimensions in general.
I still think 6D HDE may be possible, but using that QnA as evidence is wrong for me.
ShionAH
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We dont have to prove anything when its like obvious half the authors dont know how dimensions work or omnipotence works. Unreliable.
If this is what OP is proposing I disagree HEAVILY. Thats range
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you said that he isnt omnipotent when the show clearly implies and states that he is. alien x being omnipotent has issues anywayAre we arguing Alien X to be Omnipotent?
???? thats not what we're talking about. If you are not bound by dimensions then that literally means you cant be 10 dimensional for example since you're not bound by that and yet he was stated to be multi dimensional which is 10 dimensional or more
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Range upgrade?
ShionAH
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Effecting a 6D object should be range. DEF NOT HDE
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Extradimensional means more than 3 dimensions in this context and they're talking to Ben so 5 dimensions makes the most sense.
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yes maybe
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Agreed
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Goku, also they can just breach through an infinitesimal part of the barrier.
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Entire MoA ain't getting unreliable tag just because one of their official QnA has been contradicted. Duncan ain't getting the tag of never being used just because of many contradicted answers he has given, entire guidebook ain't getting discredited just because single out of all of information has been found wrong. No.
Okay. Alien X ain't omnipotent. Omnipotent many times refers to great power, not necessarily a legit omnipotent being who is Tier 0 outta nowhere.
Extra-Dimensional refers to extra Dimensions beyond 4 Dimensional spacetime, in that sense they aren't bound to 4 Dimensions and beyond it. We don't go with highest interpretation of the text when the Answer is referring to normal Dimensions.
He is not ******* omnipotent, are we really arguing legit omnipotent characters in 2023?
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