CC Goku Page?

[Dominodalek]

Working on it now.

 

[Vietthai96]

First and foremost, EE and Void manip description should be: Can charge/cast Energy of Destruction which erase everything from existence, even soul and warped World of Void)

 

[Dominodalek]

Noted it.

 

[Vietthai96]

Also he should have Damage Boost, i checked the Xeno Goku abilities CRT thread, some of the card have damage boost is from DBZ era SSJ3 Goku, so CC Goku should have it

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

We should also probably add to his summary that he's one of the main protagonist of the SDBH exclusive arcs like the Prison Planet, Universal Conflict etc.

 

[Vietthai96]

Also i think we should remove his Berserk image, unless we decide to make keys about those states which is Mindless/Animalistic

 

[Dominodalek]

Also he should have Damage Boost, i checked the Xeno Goku abilities CRT thread, some of the card have damage boost is from DBZ era SSJ3 Goku, so CC Goku should have it

Added it, CC Goku's bound to have dozens of similar abilities.

We should also probably add to his summary that he's one of the main protagonist of the SDBH exclusive arcs like the Prison Planet, Universal Conflict etc.

Done that.

Anyone against me removing Life Manipulation from his profile? He gets it from the "Draw" ability, which no version of Goku (nor anyone comparable) has ever used.

 

[VinnyXD]

Take it off. Xeno shouldn't have it either

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Hmmm IIRC only God's can use the Draw ability so personally I'd go with a "Possibly Life Manipulation" since Goku does qualify as a God with SSJG and SSJB.

 

[VinnyXD]

Has anyone in Heroes or whatever use the ability?

 

[Dominodalek]

It's not only gods, over a dozen people (including Dr. Gero, Android 21, Hoi, Baby, Oren, Kamin, Towa, Salsa, Xeno King Vegeta, Fu and Majin Ozotto) have used it without being a god. It seems to be more magic-based than divinity-based - it just so happens that most gods can also use magic.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Fair enough

 

[VinnyXD]

Xeno King Vegeta should get a page

 

[Dominodalek]

Can someone suggest a better way to word his Resurrection ability? The current wording is "Resurrection (Can resurrect himself or his allies, but needs two allies on the field to activate)" but the characters being revived didn't actually die, it's more of a heroic second wind kind of thing.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Either Revival or Resuscitation.

 

[Vietthai96]

Now other than those abilites, Does CC Goku have more abilties, i have high hope for this version of Goku to have more hax than his Xeno version

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Also isn't Ultra Instinct a fusion level amp in Heroes? Atleast in the arcade and in the manga UI Goku defeated SSJ3 Cumber who could compete with SSJ4 Xeno Vegito. We need to figure out if UI Goku scales to the Vegito's in their fight against Fu who has Immeasurable lifting strength

 

[Dominodalek]

Now other than those abilites, Does CC Goku have more abilties, i have high hope for this version of Goku to have more hax than his Xeno version

He has a billion abilities for affecting his or his enemy's stats.

Also isn't Ultra Instinct a fusion level amp in Heroes? Atleast in the arcade and in the manga UI Goku defeated SSJ3 Cumber who could compete with SSJ4 Xeno Vegito.

Probably, that does happen.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

This is correct.

Nice. The only thing left now is to figure out if he scales to the Vegito duo and Dark King Fu for possibly Immeasurable lifting strength

 

[SamanPatou]

I think that Goku's possession negation should be addressed as a form of Purification, likely type 1.

We actually don't have a way to call the act of expelling a physical being from a possessed host, but I believe it should be part of Purification type 1.

 

[CR_Catinho]

Nice. The only thing left now is to figure out if he scales to the Vegito duo and Dark King Fu for possibly Immeasurable lifting strength

i don't think he does , even Fu noted that that vegito got extremely stronger since the prison planet arc

 

[CR_Catinho]

I think that Goku's possession negation should be addressed as a form of Purification, likely type 1.

We actually don't have a way to call the act of expelling a physical being from a possessed host, but I believe it should be part of Purification type 1.

i suggested limited soul manip but no one liked it

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Purification should work.

 

[Dominodalek]

I'm not quite sure what to make of that, does anyone know how the manga handled Oren being expelled?

 

[CR_Catinho]

Also i think we should remove his Berserk image, unless we decide to make keys about those states which is Mindless/Animalistic

i don't mind them being removed , they look ugly

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

i don't think he does , even Fu noted that that vegito got extremely stronger since the prison planet arc

Tbf Goku did too get stronger since SSJB Goku could later keep up with SSJ3 Cumber in the manga

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

i don't think he does , even Fu noted that that vegito got extremely stronger since the prison planet arc

I mean, UI or MUI could possibly scale

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

I'm not quite sure what to make of that, does anyone know how the manga handled Oren being expelled?

IIRC it was Vegeta who broke free from Oren's possession

 

[CR_Catinho]

Tbf Goku did too get stronger since SSJB Goku could later keep up with SSJ3 Cumber in the manga

i haven't read past the prison planet arc , can't find the rest anywhere , so all my knowledge just comes from the anime

 

[Dominodalek]

Also i think we should remove his Berserk image, unless we decide to make keys about those states which is Mindless/Animalistic

Removed, the two forms have basically no chance of ever being covered by the page. The image for SSGSS (Berserk) was awful anyway.

IIRC it was Vegeta who broke free from Oren's possession

Wouldn't surprise me, that's what happened in the arcade too.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

I'm not quite sure what to make of that, does anyone know how the manga handled Oren being expelled?

In the manga, Vegeta expelled Oren himself, powering up and forcing Oren out of his body in his goop form.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Personally I'd give UI Goku Possibly Immeasurable lifting strength. Considering how Goku could keep up with SSJ3 Cumber with only SSJB in the Universal Conflict saga I don't think it's impossible for UI Goku to scale

 

[SamanPatou]

i suggested limited soul manip but no one liked it

I mean, isn't Oren a physical parasite like Baby? In that case Goku didn't punch a spirit out of Vegeta, but an entire biological being, which I believe should count as Purification.

 

[CR_Catinho]

I mean, isn't Oren a physical parasite like Baby? In that case Goku didn't punch a spirit out of Vegeta, but an entire biological being, which I believe should count as Purification.

hmmm you have a point , so purification sounds good

 

[VinnyXD]

This Goku shouldn't have Attack Reflection. And what he did to the rip off version of Baby is Purification type 1

 

[Vietthai96]

He already he Purification though, could purify dark demon energy, so we could just add another line of description for Oren in it

 

[Dominodalek]

He already he Purification though, could purify dark demon energy, so we could just add another line of description for Oren in it

Done.

 

[CR_Catinho]

it should just say that he has both purification type 1 and 2

 

[Dominodalek]

it should just say that he has both purification type 1 and 2

Done.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Personally I'd give UI Goku Possibly Immeasurable lifting strength. Considering how Goku could keep up with SSJ3 Cumber with only SSJB in the Universal Conflict saga I don't think it's impossible for UI Goku to scale

The games and manga show Vegito Blue from prison planet saga overpowering SSJ Cumber (which are the primary canon over the anime), so scaling UI Goku to a Vegito Blue who got massively stronger than before is really iffy

Basically:

Vegito Blue (Universe Creation Saga) ~ Dark King Fu >> Super Fu >>>> Golden Great Ape Cumber = Vegito Blue Kaioken times 2 (Manga, Prison Planet Saga) >> Vegito Blue >> SSJ Cumber