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Cat Blanc Upgrade [Spoilers]

Lukadrien

Lukadrien

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SPOILERS [If you havent seen cat blanc without wanting it spoiled please don't read on]

I know cat blanc is a different version of cat noir, but the character is the same nonetheless, so I posted it here. In the most recent episode cat blanc made a destructive spirit bomb the size of a galaxy [and I think he could have continued to make it even larger, perhaps consuming the universe].

I think he is at least tier 3 as cat blanc. Thoughts?
 
He was able to completely destory all of paris and more? not sure with a samller one that was directed at the moon which from the image of the moon sperating broke in half
 
Yeah fair. may have to wait for the english dub to get more specific info before considering giving him an upgrade this big, unless anyone who speaks french understands exactly what went on
 
The Destruction is a hax ability. So possibly with his hax (We see that the blast Chat Noir makes creates a large crater before it completely splits the moon), he can destroy things on an at least Galaxy level scale.

Other than that, MFTL+ reaction speeds all around.
 
Cat Blanc was going to destroy the entire timeline, as evidenced by Bunnyx not being able to time travel anymore as all points in time became inaccesible. That's means that Cat Blanc's final attack is Low 2-C
 
Gilad Hyperstar said:
Cat Blanc was going to destroy the entire timeline, as evidenced by Bunnyx not being able to time travel anymore as all points in time became inaccesible. That's means that Cat Blanc's final attack is Low 2-C
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[Whistles] Damn! Color me impressed. Although I am curious as to how you know that. Do you speak french?
 
To say he's only timeline level is to downplay the Cat. He was clearly going to destroy everything, as in space-time itself. It was such a threat that Bunix couldn't travel to the past, present or future as everything would have been completely annihilated.

Edit: I even came back from my long slumber because of that feat.
 
[Whistles] Damn! Color me impressed. Although I am curious as to how you know that. Do you speak french?

Not really, but I watched with subs. In the english subs, Bunnix says: "oh no, it will be the end of the world!" While all points in time are getting inaccessible to her, and in the context, she means the end of the universe
 
KoichiSamakibara said:
To say he's only timeline level is to downplay the Cat. He was clearly going to destroy everything, as in space-time itself. It was such a threat that Bunix couldn't travel to the past, present or future as everything would have been completely annihilated.

Edit: I even came back from my long slumber because of that feat.
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Unless are you saying that there are multiple timelines in Miraculous, both of the things you said are Low 2-C
 
Gilad Hyperstar said:
KoichiSamakibara said:
To say he's only timeline level is to downplay the Cat. He was clearly going to destroy everything, as in space-time itself. It was such a threat that Bunix couldn't travel to the past, present or future as everything would have been completely annihilated.

Edit: I even came back from my long slumber because of that feat.
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Unless are you saying that there are multiple timelines in Miraculous, both of the things you said are Low 2-C
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I think there could be multiple timelines, as the timeline with cat blanc seems to have gotten erased, though as I said i will probably wait for the dub for more clarity. The room with Bunnix is an interesting place, she appears to be seeing different points of time across various timelines due to marinttes actions, though it appears she is only bound to one timeline and will disappear if the cat blanc timeline continues to exist. Subs are ok but I will wait for the dub to comment without speculating more on these complex time issues.

So far I still think he is at least tier 3 though based on his galaxy sized "spirit bomb"
 
Lukadrien said:
So far I still think he is at least tier 3 though based on his galaxy sized "spirit bomb"
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Except that spirit bomb don't hurt good people, but aside from that, pretty much. I think that chat blanc is a threat to all timelines, as if he weren't she could just return back to the past and change the course of events leading to him being akumatized.

Also, I was given more the impression that Bunnix can access different points in one timeline, than multiple, very similar to each other, timelines. If the latter is correct, then Chat Blanc's final attack is a definite 2-C (might even be 2-B but I'm not sure how many portals in that room are there). Right now I'm asauming it's a Low 2-C feat since as far as I know, Miraculous have one timeline
 
I think that it seems safest to rate completely destroying all points in a timeline as Low 2-C. However, you should preferably ask for some more staff input first.
 
The feat is here . Also, in the english subs, Bunnyx say that the blast "is about to trigger the end of the world", and since we see all the different points in time becoming inaccessible, that means that in the context, "end of the world" actually means "the end of the universe", which also would destroy the entire timeline. That's my reasoning for a Low 2-C rating
 
Antvasima said:
I think that it seems safest to rate completely destroying all points in a timeline as Low 2-C. However, you should preferably ask for some more staff input first.
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But if this gets accepted, can I also add Cat Noir's keys before you or other staff members lock his profile?
 
We do not automatically lock tier 2 profiles anymore.
 
Oh really? What a relief. Was really worried about it since if this would get accepted I though it would take a lot of time until a staff member could edit it.

Also, what do think about the feat I linked to? As in what's the best rating for this feat
 
I don't have the time to watch an entire episode. Sorry.
 
I suppose that "Likely Low 2-C" seems fine then.
 
I suppose that seems fine.
 
Cat Blanc wasn't stated to be a threat to the timelines. Even during Ladybug and Cat Blanc's initial fighting, Bunnyx's portals were already starting to fade into static. She states here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGnGQ7omgxA

16:13

that Cat Noir will cause "the end of the world", which makes sense due to the size of his Super Cataclysm, which in turn would cause chain reactions across time, causing Bunnyx's timeline to not exist. He wasn't effecting the timelines directly.


I think low-end 3B should be fine, but Low 2C is a MASSIVE stretch. Plus, the feat itself would probably be an outlier anyways
 
Mickey1940 said:
Cat Blanc wasn't stated to be a threat to the timelines. Even during Ladybug and Cat Blanc's initial fighting, Bunnyx's portals were already starting to fade into static. She states here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGnGQ7omgxA

16:13

that Cat Noir will cause "the end of the world", which makes sense due to the size of his Super Cataclysm, which in turn would cause chain reactions across time, causing Bunnyx's timeline to not exist. He wasn't effecting the timelines directly.


I think low-end 3B should be fine, but Low 2C is a MASSIVE stretch. Plus, the feat itself would probably be an outlier anyways
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It's not an outlier since none of the heroes scales to it. This is just hax for Chat Blanc only. Also, yes, the timeline was starting to be unstable, but when Chat Blanc fired the attack, all of the timelines became inaccessible at the same time, while before they dissapeared rather slowly. Also, Hawk Moth literally said " I give you the power of infinite destruction", and Bunnyx could no longer time travel to any point in time. If it was only 3-B, it would have no effect on the past, only the present would be affected, but that's not the case, as all of time is clearly affected and was almost destroyed on a universal scale
 
Have the calculations been accepted? If so, this should probably be applied.
 
Guys, this Genki Dama has been rising infinitely. Furthermore, before Bannix we can see that all timelines are being erased due to Cat Blank. According to Ladybug lore, akumazied heroes are heroes without a limit of the super-ability. That means that Cat Noir in his peak power can destroy everything. Let's not forget about Plugg, it is mentioned that Plugg's cataclysm is much more powerful than Cat Noir's. So if Cat Noir is a low 2-C, Plugg is 2-C or low 2-B.
 
@Monkey

You can ask a few calc group members to comment via their message walls if you wish. Just avoid DMUA, as he is easily the most overworked of them.
 
SA!TAMA said:
Guys, this Genki Dama has been rising infinitely. Furthermore, before Bannix we can see that all timelines are being erased due to Cat Blank. According to Ladybug lore, akumazied heroes are heroes without a limit of the super-ability. That means that Cat Noir in his peak power can destroy everything. Let's not forget about Plugg, it is mentioned that Plugg's cataclysm is much more powerful than Cat Noir's. So if Cat Noir is a low 2-C, Plugg is 2-C or low 2-B.
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Few things with this:

1. Only Chat Blanc possibly scales to this, and this is most likely Low 2-C with Cataclysm.

2. We can't assume Plagg to be 2-C, especially when Chat Blanc's powers were greatly increased, and more importantly, for a 2-C tier it's need to be confirmed that there are 2-1000 spatiotemporally seperated timelines, which we can't confirm yet.

3. There's no such thing as "Low 2-B". 2-B is for any AP that destroys 1001 to any higher finite number if universes at once
 
Hi Koichi. Long time, no see. You are the only member who has been here longer than I have now.
 
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