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It's a higher dimension that contains Infinite universes
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CAS Should Be High 1-A
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Even if the bleed is 1-b the sphere of god is above the concept of dimensions and space and time which makes it 1-a.
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It was stated by trigon sons (at the time were playing chess) that if the phantom stranger fell into the bleed, not even his master will be able to bring him back which at the time was presence.
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Well, it's clearly not inaccessibly above them as shown by the numerous contradictions, but even then, that doesn't support this thread at all. CAS isn't High 1A, period
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Yeah
Yeah but iirc they said transcending space and time doesn't make you 1a.
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That does support it.
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Another DC inconsistency cause there's plenty of evidence that he can casually destroy the entire thing. Lucifer destroyed an infinite number of Creations with his Presence alone and he scales below Presence
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When did I argue about Cas being high 1-a. Also which contractions.
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Numerous contradictions? The platonic thing was introduced at the end of post crisis. Not some 1970s stuff.
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It doesn't, tho. High 1A came from duality statements, which aren't how High 1A functions, which is why it doesn't help the thread's objective.
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I mean, I'm not fully sure about the entire duality thing. Does the Godsphere being a higher conceptual plane of existence existing beyond any measure of space and time comprehensible to humans while also transcending the dual system of the mortal plane grant high 1-A? I thought that was at best 1-A?
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If god sphere is 1a then you can make cas high 1a.
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No, since this is backed up by superman beyond. That the only ones being about to effect it is the monitors but I do believe that lucifer>cas.
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Someone already layed out some, but the easiest thing is that it's still part of the hierarchy, which would remove the possibility of the hierarchy being 1A, but again, that's just my interpretation of it. Even then, the God Sphere being 1A doesn't get CAS to High 1A, so it's honestly irrelevent
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How?
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What thing.
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Even Sphere of gods is 1-A then the monitor sphere is High 1-A.....
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Because limbo sees it as fiction and cas transcends limbo.
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Again, this is extremely inconsistent with the scaling that they have
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What thing is inconsistent
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What scaling?
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How? Explain that.
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Since the monitor sphere is above a realm that sees the sphere of gods as a book.
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Hmmm.
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An explosion from Michael was capable of destroying all of Creation, Lucifer destroyed infinite rejected Creations with his mere presence, Presence was clearly able to destroy all of Creation, was capable of unmaking Lucifer, Michael, and Gabriel, who made the multiverse, just as easily as he made them.
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Not how High 1A works.
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Again you are missing the point.
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That's R>F how is that a High 1-A gap.
The tiering system has High 1-A as above every layer of 1-A. And the tiering system FAQ states that the difference between each higher layer is repeating the same process that led to such tier on a higher scale. Which is bigger than R>F which is just as good as the difference between 3d and 2d
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How? I'm pointing out that DC's extremely inconsistent and that the scaling we have of Presence contradicts your logic.
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Well, R>F can usually grant higher layers into 1A (even though I don't get why), but it's definitely not granting that big of a jump.
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The monitor sphere sees limbo as nothing but a germ. A bacteria at best.
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Wait wha?
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The example he used for Presence not scaling to the multiverse or whatever.
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Marvel and dc are inconsistent because of how they fucntion. I am just pointing out how this makes sense if we go by monitor lore which was laid out in final crisis.
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Still not High 1A.
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R>F is the difference between a lower dimension and a higher dimension. The difference between each layer of 1-A is the same process that led up to 1-A which is 1 Aleph of dimensions. So the gap between each layer of 1-A is an aleph amount of dimensions which is greater than infinite dimensions in this tiering and r>f is only one dimensional difference
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How is that not high 1a?
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The monitor sphere sees limbo as a germ and limbo sees the sphere of gods are a book that was written by a monkey. How is that not High 1-A.
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