Can GPE be used for AP if the character is in space?

[JustANormalLemon]

Let's just go straight to the point

A living moon that has a diameter of 2.694446623875059959092740096e+27 km and 1.68741248583218121e+29 kg exist in space, can I use GPE to get It's ap?

If not, there is any way way I can use to get the AP trough the gravity It would generate by existing?

 

[TheShape03]

I think you could use this.

Gravitational Binding Energy

Gravitational binding energy is the energy needed to completely disperse a celestial body. If GBE is broken, the particles of the body will not reform or be bound to each other's gravity, but instead drift off infinitely in the direction they were moved towards. There are precise calculations...

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[JustANormalLemon]

I think you could use this.

Gravitational Binding Energy

Gravitational binding energy is the energy needed to completely disperse a celestial body. If GBE is broken, the particles of the body will not reform or be bound to each other's gravity, but instead drift off infinitely in the direction they were moved towards. There are precise calculations...

vsbattles.fandom.com

I really serch and trough there was nothing on the wili about It

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Humm... no, don't work sinse I also don't know how much force the moon gravity pulls

 

[Dragonite007]

I already tried to calc, but the result was always to low

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Bump

 

[StrymULTRA]

Humm... no, don't work sinse I also don't know how much force the moon gravity pulls

Really...?

Gravitation of the Moon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Really...?

Gravitation of the Moon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I mean, is this moon not a normal one

It's the size of a galaxy and isn't round, I don't think It has the same gravity as earth normal moon

 

[StrymULTRA]

It's the size of a galaxy and isn't round

Stop right there buddy. We use Black Hole formula for such sizes.

 

[Dragonite007]

I mean, is this moon not a normal one

It's the size of a galaxy and isn't round, I don't think It has the same gravity as earth normal moon

The Moon is at least system solar sized

 

[StrymULTRA]

The Moon is at least system solar sized

You should see the mass and see if the corresponding Black Hole is bigger, as if it's the case, you need to calc it as a black hole.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

You should see the mass and see if the corresponding Black Hole is bigger, as if it's the case, you need to calc it as a black hole.

A living moon that has a diameter of 2.694446623875059959092740096e+27 km and 1.68741248583218121e+29 kg exist in space, can I use GPE to get It's ap

It's all here friend, It is pre stellar in weight

 

[StrymULTRA]

It's all here friend, It is pre stellar in weight

Assuming it's right as I didn't see the calc:

Schwarzschild radius: (2*G*M)/c^2 = (2*6.6743e-11*1.68741248583218121e+29)/(299792458^2) = 250.619911 m

Aka you already know that something is hella ******* wrong, as if we use the standard Black Hole's formula for it:

((299792458^2/(2*6.674*10^-11))/(5.972*10^24))*(2.487*10^32) * 250.619911 = 7.02743384e36 Joules (5-A)

If we use instead the actual mass of your Moon: (1.68741248583218121e+29 kg / 5.972e24 kg) * 2.487e32 J = 7.02711797e36 joules (Still 5-A)

Nvm, it's not necessary here as it's not that big then.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Assuming it's right as I didn't see the calc:

Schwarzschild radius: (2*G*M)/c^2 = (2*6.6743e-11*1.68741248583218121e+29)/(299792458^2) = 250.619911 m

Aka you already know that something is hella ******* wrong, as if we use the standard Black Hole's formula for it:

((299792458^2/(2*6.674*10^-11))/(5.972*10^24))*(2.487*10^32) * 250.619911 = 7.02743384e36 Joules (5-A)

If we use instead the actual mass of your Moon: (1.68741248583218121e+29 kg / 5.972e24 kg) * 2.487e32 J = 7.02711797e36 joules (Still 5-A)

Nvm, it's not necessary here as it's not that big then.

here is the link to the calc: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:JustANormalLemon/More_moon_calcs

wanted a way to get It's AP and It's hard sinse the moon moves at FTL speeds at this size

 

[BreezeHM]

The CBF page outlines that moving a Solar System at FTL speeds would be tiered at Solar System level, so you could start with that.

I’m surprised it isn’t a Black Hole so you could calculate it’s GBE. However, I don’t believe GBE can be equated to AP by default, so you should get some input there

 

[JustANormalLemon]

The CBF page outlines that moving a Solar System at FTL speeds would be tiered at Solar System level, so you could start with that.

I’m surprised it isn’t a Black Hole so you could calculate it’s GBE. However, I don’t believe GBE can be equated to AP by default, so you should get some input there

Meh, I guess the solar system level by default is good enough, and yup, It's not even havy enough to become a star surprisingly

 

[Kudekuba]

Let's just go straight to the point

A living moon that has a diameter of 2.694446623875059959092740096e+27 km and 1.68741248583218121e+29 kg exist in space, can I use GPE to get It's ap?

If not, there is any way way I can use to get the AP trough the gravity It would generate by existing?

I believe you can use this formula to get the minimum AP in Joules:

G.B.E = ( 3*G*M*M ) / ( 5*R )

The source:

Demostration of GBE of an spherical celestial Body

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I believe you can use this formula to get the minimum AP in Joules:

G.B.E = ( 3*G*M*M ) / ( 5*R )

The source:

Demostration of GBE of an spherical celestial Body

Not spherical trough