Buu Upgrade CRT!

[Whiz_Almighty]

I think still solar system level at the end after he became much, much stronger from training is a bit vague so I propose adding At least Solar System level.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

The gap between 4-B and the next tier (4-A) is 881.86 billion times. This is gonna be a no from me, chief.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I think still solar system level at the end after he became much, much stronger from training is a bit vague so I propose adding At least Solar System level.

He's no where near even close to the next tier.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, we do not know how many multitudes greater he is compared to Super Perfect Cell, we cannot assume in the millions let alone billions.

 

[Rez]

Op never proposed 4-A rating. They only said to change the wording to at least 4-B.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Should be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.

The gap between 4-B and the next tier (4-A) is 881.86 billion times. This is gonna be a no from me, chief.

 

[Bernkastelll]

I am not understanding what people is talking about, OP is just proposing it be rated as ''At least 4-B''

 

[Rez]

@Nullflowerblush The op is not proposing an 4-A rating though. In fact they are not even proposing anything close to that

 

[Nullflowerblush]

OP is proposing "At least 4-B". The "at least" denotes an unknown cap. However, the gap between 4-B and any tier above it is over 800 billion times. The only way for Buu Saga high-tiers to obtain an "at least" rating is if there is some evidence proving that they even within the range of 800 billion.

 

[Bernkastelll]

OP is proposing "At least 4-B". The "at least" denotes an unknown cap. However, the gap between 4-B and any tier above it is over 800 billion times. The only way for Buu Saga high-tiers to obtain an "at least" rating is if there is some evidence proving that they even within the range of 800 billion.

I mean, yeah? That's the reason that Saitama is At least Low 5-B, because Low 5-B is his lowest cap, but it can be far higher, same as Buu, he casually MASSIVELY scales above 4-B beings, so, yes, it being rated as At least 4-B is not a problem.

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah I mean just watch his fight with dbs Goku

Even though Goku was holding back

 

[Rez]

OP is proposing "At least 4-B". The "at least" denotes an unknown cap. However, the gap between 4-B and any tier above it is over 800 billion times. The only way for Buu Saga high-tiers to obtain an "at least" rating is if there is some evidence proving that they even within the range of 800 billion.

No the at least rating is given when a character scales above a certain amount by an unknown degree. If the characters scales above a certain tier by an massive amount than a + is given

 

[Nullflowerblush]

That's the reason that Saitama is At least Low 5-B, because Low 5-B is his lowest cap, but it can be far higher

The gap between Low 5-B and the next tier up (5-B) is ~137x, and even then, he upscales from 7.9782 zettatons (~7.45x smaller than 5-B).
The gap between 4-B and the next tier up (4-A) is ~881,860,000,000x, and Buu upscales from 1.053 KiloFOE (~19,069,325,700x smaller than 4-A).

Unless evidence is given to even logically make the assumption that Buu is that high up there in 4-B, then an "at least" is fine. Even if we reduce that large difference I mentioned earlier by 400x (SEG's Super Saiyan 3 multiplier), you would still get a value 47,673,314.2x smaller than 4-A.

We know his cap—4-B.

 

[Bernkastelll]

The gap between Low 5-B and the next tier up (5-B) is ~137x, and even then, he upscales from 7.9782 zettatons (~7.45x smaller than 5-B).
The gap between 4-B and the next tier up (4-A) is ~881,860,000,000x, and Buu upscales from 1.053 KiloFOE (~19,069,325,700x smaller than 4-A).

Unless evidence is given to even logically make the assumption that Buu is that high up there in 4-B, then an "at least" is fine. Even if we reduce that large difference I mentioned earlier by 400x (SEG's Super Saiyan 3 multiplier), you would still get a value 47,673,314.2x smaller than 4-A.

We know his cap—4-B.

Dude, the At Least ratings is not envolved with the next tier, but the fact that the characters massively scales above their current known caps, such as Saitama and Buu

 

[Bernkastelll]

****, i forgot what I was going to do when I wrote it

 

[Rez]

The gap between Low 5-B and the next tier up (5-B) is ~137x, and even then, he upscales from 7.9782 zettatons (~7.45x smaller than 5-B).
The gap between 4-B and the next tier up (4-A) is ~881,860,000,000x, and Buu upscales from 1.053 KiloFOE (~19,069,325,700x smaller than 4-A).

Unless evidence is given to even logically make the assumption that Buu is that high up there in 4-B, then an "at least" is fine. Even if we reduce that large difference I mentioned earlier by 400x (SEG's Super Saiyan 3 multiplier), you would still get a value 47,673,314.2x smaller than 4-A.

We know his cap—4-B.

At least is used when a character scales above a certain tier by an unknown amount. You are talking about the + rating which is given if a character is closer to the next tier

 

[Nullflowerblush]

At least is used when a character scales above a certain tier by an unknown amount.

And when we don't know what their limits are.

Saitama is "At least Low 5-B" because he massively upscales from a Low 5-B feat on the cusp of being 5-B, and a High 6-A feat without even coming close to hitting his ceiling.

Alastor from Hazbin Hotel is "At least Low 7-C", because he, and the rest of the Overlords, are so unfathomably incomparable to the rest of the characters in the verse, including those that scale to the Low 7-C feat, that we have no idea where he truly lies.

Beerus and Champa are both "At least Low 2-C", because why they performed a 2-C feat, it was a joint effort, causing massive confusion as to whether or not they were truly Low 2-C or 2-C, resulting in the "at least". Likewise, Goku and Beerus in the manga were going to end up destroying the universe in an unknown timeframe, hence why they inconclusively scale within 3-B and not directly into 3-A, hence the "at least".

These characters all have a beginning and an indeterminate end.
Buu has a beginning (4-B), and unless there is any evidence to suggest even a nineteen billion times increase, he also has a definite end—4-B.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Obviously disagree FRA

 

[EmilioRory10]

I agree, people are using the big gap between 4-B and 4-A as their reasons to disagree but that's not how the "At least" rating works

 

[StrawHatArslan]

disagree fra

 

[Rez]

And when we don't know what their limits are.

Saitama is "At least Low 5-B" because he massively upscales from a Low 5-B feat on the cusp of being 5-B, and a High 6-A feat without even coming close to hitting his ceiling.

Alastor from Hazbin Hotel is "At least Low 7-C", because he, and the rest of the Overlords, are so unfathomably incomparable to the rest of the characters in the verse, including those that scale to the Low 7-C feat, that we have no idea where he truly lies.

Beerus and Champa are both "At least Low 2-C", because why they performed a 2-C feat, it was a joint effort, causing massive confusion as to whether or not they were truly Low 2-C or 2-C, resulting in the "at least". Likewise, Goku and Beerus in the manga were going to end up destroying the universe in an unknown timeframe, hence why they inconclusively scale within 3-B and not directly into 3-A, hence the "at least".

These characters all have a beginning and an indeterminate end.
Buu has a beginning (4-B), and unless there is any evidence to suggest even a nineteen billion times increase, he also has a definite end—4-B.

You might wanna read what the + and at least rantings are about exactly

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[Nullflowerblush]

At least​

Should be used to denote the lower cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.

At most​

Should be used to denote the higher cap of a character, if the exact value is indeterminate.

And when we don't know what their limits are.

Saitama is "At least Low 5-B" because he massively upscales from a Low 5-B feat on the cusp of being 5-B, and a High 6-A feat without even coming close to hitting his ceiling.

Alastor from Hazbin Hotel is "At least Low 7-C", because he, and the rest of the Overlords, are so unfathomably incomparable to the rest of the characters in the verse, including those that scale to the Low 7-C feat, that we have no idea where he truly lies.

Beerus and Champa are both "At least Low 2-C", because why they performed a 2-C feat, it was a joint effort, causing massive confusion as to whether or not they were truly Low 2-C or 2-C, resulting in the "at least". Likewise, Goku and Beerus in the manga were going to end up destroying the universe in an unknown timeframe, hence why they inconclusively scale within 3-B and not directly into 3-A, hence the "at least".

These characters all have a beginning and an indeterminate end.
Buu has a beginning (4-B), and unless there is any evidence to suggest even a nineteen billion times increase, he also has a definite end—4-B.

Read these together.