But his continental at best (nard revision)

[AlternativePrinciple]

Alright another simple CRT, and this time it will be simple… hopefully.


When the Ten Tails first appeared its chakra was compared to that of a small planet. Now how is this important, well as we see with Boruto's Uzuhiko the planet's chakra is connected to its rotational KE and its GPE.


I know what you're think,


“ But Alt the planet is clearly rotating and is still in one piece (nard better). Close this thread ”


Well, in the anime we see Momoshiki peacefully eating on a planet which is not rotating on its own axis at all and was stated to have been destroyed by Momoshiki using a god tree. In addition, there are fragments of the planet floating around it and no it's not because the planet has its GPE, it's floating because of the gravity from the star in the background. The only reason that the planet is not crumbling into pieces is because the roots of the God Tree are holding the planet together something like this. And thanks to kaguya we know that the God Tree's roots can extend all over the planet.


Now the issue of the ten tails having small planet worth of chakra, but the nard world being still alive. If we go back to Kaguya's backstory we could see that the God Tree was passively absorbing the chakra of the planet. As the planet can regenerate its chakra, we know this because the ten tails is made of purely nature energy and that a ten tails jinchūriki can only be damaged by nature energy meaning that the planet's chakra is composed of nature energy which can regenerate overtime, it wouldn't be too unreasonable to assume that the God tree has been absorbing chakra all this time before kaguya showed up. Furthermore it was never established or stated that the God Tree has to instantly absorb all the planet's chakra, this could be just the otsutsuki trying to get stranger and more genetic material as fast as possible to attain Godhood like they are known to do.

To conclude,

Hashirama, madara, sasuke, nard, and obito scale to this

Agree-

Disagree-

 

[Avengershows]

Please for once put more than 1 hour of effort into a CRT that is meant to change something drastically

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Gotta love how bro just completely left out Hashirama, Madara and Sasuke.

 

[Padaruyos]

Alright another simple CRT, and this time it will be simple… hopefully.


When the Ten Tails first appeared its chakra was compared to that of a small planet. Now how is this important, well as we see with Boruto's Uzuhiko the planet's chakra is connected to its rotational KE and its GPE.


I know what you're think,


“ But Alt the planet is clearly rotating and is still in one piece (nard better). Close this thread ”


Well, in the anime we see Momoshiki peacefully eating on a planet which is not rotating on its own axis at all and was stated to have been destroyed by Momoshiki using a god tree. In addition, there are fragments of the planet floating around it and no it's not because the planet has its GPE, it's floating because of the gravity from the star in the background. The only reason that the planet is not crumbling into pieces is because the roots of the God Tree are holding the planet together something like this. And thanks to kaguya we know that the God Tree's roots can extend all over the planet.


Now the issue of the ten tails having small planet worth of chakra, but the nard world being still alive. If we go back to Kaguya's backstory we could see that the God Tree was passively absorbing the chakra of the planet. As the planet can regenerate its chakra, we know this because the ten tails is made of purely nature energy and that a ten tails jinchūriki can only be damaged by nature energy meaning that the planet's chakra is composed of nature energy which can regenerate overtime, it wouldn't be too unreasonable to assume that the God tree has been absorbing chakra all this time before kaguya showed up. Furthermore it was never established or stated that the God Tree has to instantly absorb all the planet's chakra, this could be just the otsutsuki trying to get stranger and more genetic material as fast as possible to attain Godhood like they are known to do.

To conclude,

Juubito- L5B
KCM2SM nard-L5B
KCM2SM minato-L5B

Agree-

Disagree-

This would end up scaling to basically every top tier, including Hashirama and Madara's avatars. The GT would also upscale far above this.

Also please format this CRT better.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Please for once put more than 1 hour of effort into a CRT that is meant to change something drastically

To be fair there isn't much to go off of

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Substantiate the claim that the planet chakra = it’s GBE.

 

[Godernet]

no

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

the sphere the shinobi's are using isnt the entire planet btw, its exclusively for the battlefield which all predominantly take place in the land of lightning and the land of frost.

 

[Padaruyos]

Also I don't know where's that that god tree = GPE comes from.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

This would end up scaling to basically every top tier, including Hashirama and Madara's avatars. The GT would also upscale far above this.

Also please format this CRT better.

So basically it scales to every higher teir?

 

[Damage3245]

Why are you comparing chakra amount to mean directly Low 5-B AP? Even if we assumed all of the chakra in the Juubi was Low 5-B there, no character ever uses 100% of their chakra capacity in a single attack, so I'm not seeing the proof here that the characters you've listed have Low 5-B AP.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Also I don't know where's that that god tree = GPE comes from.

It comes from the rotational KE which should be equal to GPE

 

[Padaruyos]

So basically it scales to every higher teir?

Yes, because Juubidara is above Juubito meaning this is also a GT crt considering they're all 5-C rn.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

the sphere the shinobi's are using isnt the entire planet btw, its exclusively for the battlefield which all predominantly take place in the land of lightning and the land of frost.

Land of lightning and frost are planet sized gg /s. But yeah the small planet comparison is not a literal “it’s got chakra equal to the GBE of a small planet”. Rather it’s just saying the chakra is huge.

 

[Padaruyos]

It comes from the rotational KE which should be equal to GPE

A planet's rotational KE is just 5-C, not Low 5-B. Check out the references for common feats page.

 

[Padaruyos]

Why are you comparing chakra amount to mean directly Low 5-B AP? Even if we assumed all of the chakra in the Juubi was Low 5-B there, no character ever uses 100% of their chakra capacity in a single attack, so I'm not seeing the proof here that the characters you've listed have Low 5-B AP.

This. UES also got nuked from Naruto so even if Juubito has L5-B Chakra there's no way this scales to physicals.

 

[Padaruyos]

Another issue. Even if the entire Juubi IS Low 5-B, the Juubi Obito seals inside him is absolutely not given there's an entire Nine Tails and Eight Tails sitting outside unsealed.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

S

Why are you comparing chakra amount to mean directly Low 5-B AP? Even if we assumed all of the chakra in the Juubi was Low 5-B there, no character ever uses 100% of their chakra capacity in a single attack, so I'm not seeing the proof here that the characters you've listed have Low 5-B AP.

Saying that juubito should scale to L5B interms of ap and durability, because of the the amount of chakra being compared to that of a small planet, and the only way a ten tails gets its chakra is by absorbing it form the planet

 

[Nierre]

But Alt the planet is clearly rotating and is still in one piece (nard better).

lmao

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

S

Saying that juubito should scale to L5B interms of ap and durability, because of the the amount of chakra being compared to that of a small planet, and the only way a ten tails gets its chakra is by absorbing it form the planet

Why is the comparison mean it’s literally a small planet’s worth of chakra? Then furthermore why does that “small planet chakra” equate to “GBE of a small planet”?

 

[Godernet]

y'all think the small planet via shinobi comms orb argument has had enough threads for a discussion rule? i can cook a thread for that later if needed.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Why is the comparison mean it’s literally a small planet’s worth of chakra? Then furthermore why does that “small planet chakra” equate to “GBE of a small planet”?

Because it's been absorbing the planet's chakra which is tied to its Rotational KE and by extension its GPE, the ten tails gets its chakra from the planet, so it reasonable to assume that it has the planet's Rotational KE and GPe

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

y'all think the small planet via shinobi comms orb argument has had enough threads for a discussion rule? i can cook a thread for that later if needed.

One discussion rule down

 

[Nierre]

y'all think the small planet via shinobi comms orb argument has had enough threads for a discussion rule? i can cook a thread for that later if needed.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Because it's been absorbing the planet's chakra which is tied to its Rotational KE and by extension its GPE, the ten tails gets its chakra from the planet, so it reasonable to assume that it has the planet's Rotational KE and GPe

No lmao. Chakra having a connection to Rot KE does not grant a connection to GBE. A planet’s GBE doesn’t cause it to spin, there’s no meaningful connection there. So no, it’s not reasonable, that’s an assumption you have to prove, we are not granting it on assertion.

 

[Padaruyos]

GBE is not related to planet rotational speed or KE at all

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

No lmao. Chakra having a connection to Rot KE does not grant a connection to GBE. A planet’s GBE doesn’t cause it to spin, there’s no meaningful connection there. So no, it’s not reasonable, that’s an assumption you have to prove, we are not granting it on

What about the unknown world which had its chakra Absorbed by momo, that planet as not spinning and and fragments of itself floating about

 

[Padaruyos]

What about the unknown world which had its chakra Absorbed by momo, that planet as not spinning and and fragments of itself floating about

How do you know the planet isn't spinning?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What about the unknown world which had its chakra Absorbed by momo, that planet as not spinning and and fragments of itself floating about

It is very blatantly not shattered beyond its GBE. If he took the GBE the planet wouldn’t be there, and especially not in anywhere close to ball form. It’d be a bunch of dust and tiny rocks floating ambiguously in space. Rather the planet still being in tact is proof he didn’t take the GBE.

 

[HelloThere1089]

I guess I was predicting the future with my discussion rule comment. My guy please take an astronomy class and revise your math formulae because it could have helped with this thread greatly. I'm not gonna join in on this g*ngbang because there are already enough people on your ass rn. But based on the logic of the OP, I disagree.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

It is very blatantly not shattered beyond its GBE. If he took the GBE the planet wouldn’t be there, and especially not in anywhere close to ball form. It’d be a bunch of dust and tiny rocks floating ambiguously in space. Rather the planet still being in tact is proof he didn’t take the GBE.

Roots of the God Tree hold the planet together, as the roots need to spread all across the planet to absorb all the chakra it posses, like how a plant hold the soil together

How do you know the planet isn't spinning?

Because the star isn't getting bigger from the side

 

[Padaruyos]

Yeah voting disagree as well.

 

[Padaruyos]

Because the star isn't getting bigger from the side

What.

How long is star shown? If you watch a sunset or a sunrise it takes a pretty long time for the sun to appear to move.

 

[Ryzen7900X]

Bro cooked nothing

i dont even have to argue in this thread at this point

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Roots of the God Tree hold the planet together, as the roots need to spread all across the planet to absorb all the chakra it posses, like how a plant hold the soil together

Prove that. Because unless the roots wrap around the outside of the planet, there’d be no way to prevent the planet from fragmenting apart.

 

[Padaruyos]

Roots of the God Tree hold the planet together, as the roots need to spread all across the planet to absorb all the chakra it posses, like how a plant hold the soil together

My guy, do you understand how gravity works?

The fact that the planet is not in all kinds of different pieces proves the GPE is still intact. The planet, even if it's in multiple pieces still binds itself together with gravity just by existing next to each other.

You'd have to separate the planet pieces far away to actually overcome it's GBE.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Prove that. Because unless the roots wrap around the outside of the planet, there’d be no way to prevent the planet from fragmenting apart.

kkaguya literally spread the roots of the God Tree all over the planet to absorb the people and the planet's chakra

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

kkaguya literally spread the roots of the God Tree all over the planet to absorb the people and the planet's chakra

And? I’m not contesting that. That doesn’t address my point at all.

 

[Padaruyos]

kkaguya literally spread the roots of the God Tree all over the planet to absorb the people and the planet's chakra

Dawg what?

Actually scratch this whole thing.

First off, absorbing GPE/GBE doesn't make any lick of sense. GPE is the total amount of potential energy made by the planet tying itself together with gravity. Any object has its own GPE since every object has its own gravitational pull. Literally absorbing GPE would mean the god tree somehow deletes gravity from the entire planet which would immediately disintegrate the planet into fine dust.

Second, we are shown in the show that what the god tree absorbs is "natural energy". This is more of a metaphysical life energy that's not really tied to or can be compared to any physical energy we have irl.

 

[That_moron2]