Boruto Vs. Buizel

[Bobsican]

Both at 8-A, speed equalized

The Sea Weasel

The Ninja

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

No matter who loses I win this one :v

 

[Bobsican]

Lol

 

[AstralKing7]

So do elemental types effect Pokémon?? Cause Boruto has the advantage with raiton release and has two speed boosts with Boruto stream as well as shunshin

What's worst Boruto is a genius. He can effectively use his clones to gather information while making distractions to create openings to fool the enemy.

He can create invisible attacks that can catch an opponent of guard easily if they can't sense its presence

He also has plenty AOE attacks and combinations

Some of his combos also slow him to maneuver in mid air

 

[Bobsican]

Elemental? Probably

For the rest...

Buizel can use Swift to hit all the clones at once (as it is also a homing attack)

He also has Odor Sleuth to hit evasive targets

Me First also allows him to copy the offensive move Boruto was going to use and bring it at him with even higher power.

Buizel also has Aqua Ring to passively heal himself and Aqua Jet to follow up in the air.

 

[AstralKing7]

What exactly is odor sleuth

Borutomand his clones may be able to fight swift off with their Uchiha shuriken style

Can me first work when verse equalization isn't in play? Wondering

I honestly forgot about Aqua jet and I didn't even know Buizel could use Aqua ring

 

[Bobsican]

SBA forces verse equalization, so Me First can work

Odor Sleuth allows to user to smell the target, allowing to keep trace of it

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

SBA forces verse equalization, so Me First can work

But Me First only works against foes slower than their users, so Speed Equalization shouldn't allow it's usage.

 

[Bobsican]

Agility allows Buizel to easily raise his speed, making it possible to use

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Agility allows Buizel to easily raise his speed, making it possible to use

So does Body Flicker and Boruto Stream on it's own, the last being particularly dangerous towards Buizel as it involves an electricity based attack.

 

[Bobsican]

Buizel can just use Mud Slap to also lower his accuracy

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Body Flicker and Boruto Stream wont stop Me First from being used unless it can be proven to match or be superior to Buizels amped speed from Agility.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Buizel can just use Mud Slap to also lower his accuracy

So can Boruto counter it with another attack on it's own.

Body Flicker and Boruto Stream wont stop Me First from being used unless it can be proven to match or be superior to Buizels amped speed from Agility.

IRC, Wave Arc Boruto blitzed a foe that was previously going FTE to him rather casually.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Someone call me when the votes are going in hot.

 

[AstralKing7]

All amp speeds should give speed boosts around the same in these kind of matches


Also verse equalization only makes energies equal for verses that share similarities. Really wondering how Pokémon would work with Chakra

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

>All amp speeds should give speed boosts around the same in these kind of matches

Wait, what?

>Also verse equalization only makes energies equal for verses that share similarities. Really wondering how Pokémon would work with Chakra

What does this point have to do with anything really?

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

>Also verse equalization only makes energies equal for verses that share similarities. Really wondering how Pokémon would work with Chakra

What does this point have to do with anything really?

Guess it has to do with the mechanics of how a Jutsu Works and how Equalization doesn't favors Me First, as Boruto's Ninjutsu is the product of the conversion between the mental and physical energy of his cells whereas Me First is... whatever the actual mechanic Pokémon use to produce their attacks is.

 

[Bobsican]

Me First can copy moves like Aura Sphere and Dark Pulse, so...

 

[AstralKing7]

Can me first copy abilities like jutsu. Chakra isn't even a thing in Pokémon and I'm wondering if Pokémon has any energy similar to chakra. From what I remember it doesn't but if the profiles are based off the games then I don't know myself tbh

 

[Bobsican]

It simply also replicates also what would normally be used for it while performing it.

 

[AstralKing7]

Is me first a specific Pokémon type move?

Can water users copy a fire type move?

 

[Bobsican]

No, it´s Normal type itself.

 

[AstralKing7]

You missed my question. Can it copy moves that aren't the Pokémon's type that activates it

 

[Bobsican]

Moves don´t work like that, but they get a bonus in power if it´s of the same type as the wielder.

Outside of that, it´ll simply work.

 

[The_Calaca]

Yes, it can.

 

[AstralKing7]

Yes, it can.

So it does work like I asked? Then I don't think there is a problem with verse equalization since it can copy any attack

 

[Bobsican]

Yes, it does.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Can me first copy abilities like jutsu. Chakra isn't even a thing in Pokémon and I'm wondering if Pokémon has any energy similar to chakra. From what I remember it doesn't but if the profiles are based off the games then I don't know myself tbh

Why exactly does this matter?

For one, power mimicry is not limited by what the actual energy source from a verse is and this has never been a thing until I saw you mention it here. Power mimicry is power mimicry, it doesnt matter what energy is used to produce a technique.

Second, even ignoring that, Me First is able to replicate many different kinds of offensive techniques, elemental or otherwise. Why would Boruto's ninjutsu suddnely be an exception?

 

[The_Calaca]

Well, kinda. Goku's power mimicry is limited to ki-based techniques because he hasn't showed replicating other kind of moves with the same ease.

 

[AguilaR101]

Practically every technique that comes from chakra exists in pokeverse in some capacity so I don't think there it is unfair to say mimicry will work.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Well, kinda. Goku's power mimicry is limited to ki-based techniques because he hasn't showed replicating other kind of moves with the same ease.

Im not talking about what the moves themselves come out as but rather the energy source used to perform the move. For example, a lightning jutsu in naruto is still produced by the users chakra, even though chakra is clearly not electrical energy, it is spiritual + physical energy. The jutsu is made by the latter, but it comes out as a product of the former.

The latter is what I mean. Goku not being able to copy non-Ki based attacks is reasonable because he can only copy Ki-based attacks, but that doesnt mean he can't copy energy-related techniques from other characters just because they use non-ki energy to produce their moves.

 

[Bobsican]

Anyways, I think Buizel has the AP advantage

Oh wait, both are 8-A+, eh, the gap likely won´t even be too big to be relevant.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Anyways, I think Buizel has the AP advantage

Oh wait, both are 8-A+, eh, the gap likely won´t even be too big to be relevant.

I mean, pretty sure he does on average, Although I think that the reasoning of the Twister Calc it's flawed.

Anyways, going back to the Topic, can we also take in mind that Boruto has his own Power Absorption, Reflection and self healing abilities?

 

[Spinoirr]

If that gets aspected we can still do this fight

 

[Bobsican]

Bump.

And yes, they can be taken into account.