Boruto One Shots Shippuden

[Arc7Kuroi]

Y'all were there for the last thread that got 5-B Uzuhiko accepted, here's the scaling thread. In this sandbox is the scaling for all characters so far (I'll update it as new chapters come out). However, below are characters with actual profiles that need to be updated.

Lode​

Tier: At least Low 5-B, 5-B with White Kāma

Key: Limiters Removed

AP: At least Small Planet level (Code's strength had greatly surpassed Jigen[1][2][Statistics Values 1]), Planet level with White Kāma (Shikamaru reiterates the sentiment that Code is far beyond Jigen and posits that while Code should be weaker than Isshiki, it's not certain, implying Code is somewhat in the same ballpark[3], and his attack power should be comparable to his durability, as Kāma amplifies power and defense evenly[4][Statistics Values 2])

SS: At least Small Planet level, Planet level with White Kāma (Comparable to his Attack Potency)

Dura: At least Small Planet level (Far surpasses Jigen[Statistics Values 3]), Planet level with White Kāma (Withstood Boruto's Uzuhiko[5][Statistics Values 4])

Isshiki​

Tier: 5-B

Key: True Form

AP: Planet level (Isshiki is on an entire different level of power than Jigen[17], Amado doesn't believe that there is anything Naruto and Sasuke can do to defeat Isshiki[18], which would logically make Isshiki stronger than the duo's arsenal, and Sasuke agrees with that sentiment[19], as he fully expects him and Naruto to die to Isshiki[20][21]. Isshiki while trying to get information from Naruto and Sasuke, and thus not looking to kill them, beats them up repeatedly[22][23][24] to the point where Sasuke concedes that he and Naruto cannot beat Isshiki and Naruto doesn't see any other choice but to die fighting Isshiki[25]. Code's strength should still be inferior to Isshiki's[26][Statistics Values 16]), Black Rods ignores conventional durability to an extent

SS: Planet level (Comparable to his Attack Potency)

Dura: Planet level (Superior to Code[Statistics Values 17])

Naruto​

Tier: Blah, at least 5-B with Baryon Mode

Key: New Era

AP: Blah, at least Planet level with Baryon Mode (Naruto beats up Isshiki[27][Statistics Values 18])

SS: Blah, at least Planet level with Baryon Mode (Comparable to his Attack Potency)

Dura:Blah, at least Planet level with Baryon Mode (Blocked attacks from Isshiki[Statistics Values 19])

Daemon​

Tier: At least 5-B

AP: At least Planet level (Far surpasses Jigen[28][29], Daemon completely beats down no limits White Kāma Code[30] and is the self-proclaimed number one[31], Code even concedes Daemon is on another level of strength[32], and Daemon states he has yet to use his full power[33][Statistics Values 20])

SS: At least Planet level (Comparable to his Attack Potency)

Dura: At least Planet level (Withstood the force of his own strikes[Statistics Values 21])

Konohamaru​

Key: New Era

Durability: Blah, Planet level with Rasen Barricade (Blocked a Chidori from Hidari[34][Statistics Values 22])

Agree: DDM, Griff, Tracer
Neutral:
Disagree:

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks good.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Agree with characters scaling to 5-B, but why is Base NL Code assumed to be above Jigen? I'm also skeptical of Isshiki being thousands of times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke since he was indeed trying to kill them. Imo downscaling that Sub-Jigen-Jigen tier of characters to Baseline Planet level (downscaling more than 10x, which I think is a pretty reasonable compromise of "scaling" them to him while keeping his superiority very clear) makes more sense than just saying "Isshiki wasn't trying at all," ignoring pretty blatant statements and implications. The whole thing with Boruto being an asset against Isshiki was preventing him from killing them after all.

 

[Godernet]

Agree with characters scaling to 5-B, but why is Base NL Code assumed to be above Jigen? I'm also skeptical of Isshiki being thousands of times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke since he was indeed trying to kill them. Imo downscaling that Sub-Jigen-Jigen tier of characters to Baseline Planet level (downscaling more than 10x, which I think is a pretty reasonable compromise of "scaling" them to him while keeping his superiority very clear) makes more sense than just saying "Isshiki wasn't trying at all," ignoring pretty blatant statements and implications. The whole thing with Boruto being an asset against Isshiki was preventing him from killing them after all.

no

 

[MinatoSparkle]

no

yes

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Agree with everything bar Konohamaru

Hidari was def holding back immensely and there is not enough for Konohamaru to say he scales that high just yet ( He likely will in the future though if he fights Harley Quinn )

Also shouldn't Eida get this upscale to?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Anything that’s not 5-B related is from other threads. Don’t discuss it here.

 

[KaydeeX]

Code was reverted to base while still sustaining damage from uzuhiko constantly. wouldn’t he scale from this?

 

[ssgengar]

Seeing Planet level next to Konohamaru is wild lol

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Code was reverted to base while still sustaining damage from uzuhiko constantly. wouldn’t he scale from this?

Naw the vertigo and after effect are sumn else. What’s 5-B is the initial attack.

 

[45Saef]

Looks fine to me.

 

[Testarossa002]

Agree with characters scaling to 5-B, but why is Base NL Code assumed to be above Jigen? I'm also skeptical of Isshiki being thousands of times stronger than Naruto and Sasuke since he was indeed trying to kill them. Imo downscaling that Sub-Jigen-Jigen tier of characters to Baseline Planet level (downscaling more than 10x, which I think is a pretty reasonable compromise of "scaling" them to him while keeping his superiority very clear) makes more sense than just saying "Isshiki wasn't trying at all," ignoring pretty blatant statements and implications. The whole thing with Boruto being an asset against Isshiki was preventing him from killing them after all.

It's better to list it as a feat for their endurance rather durability. Which serves better in VS matches
Using this logic would inadvertently put Sasuke’s durability above that of his Susano’o because jigen didn't leave a gaping hole in Sasuke
Same way we don't scale or downscale Minato to one eye Madara

 

[karo_senpaii]

Been waiting for this thread. Simple and looks good

 

[DavidTPPM]

Planetary Sarada (thread looks great)

 

[Excellence616]

I agree

 

[RanaProGamer]

Hell yeah, I agree with this

 

[ninjaking21]

I agree

 

[Fallen_Angelicx]

Agreed. I FEEL 5-B RISING AND ITS NOT A SHIPPUDEN FEAT 🗣🗣

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Sure, I agree.

 

[Stryker861]

I agree

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

I agree

 

[LordTracer]

Looks fine to me

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Aight that’s two admin and one thread mod, I’ll apply this sometime tomorrow if there’s no contentions.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I agree with everything but 5-b konhomaru, didn’t seem like hidari was trying all that hard to kill him. If anything he was just trying to get him out of the way.

 

[DavidTPPM]

I agree with everything but 5-b konhomaru, didn’t seem like hidari was trying all that hard to kill him. If anything he was just trying to get him out of the way.

I don’t see why would he hold back with a chidori.

That being said the only real problem could be that it's a wind style jutsu vs a lightning style jutsu. Wind release has an elemental advantage over lightning so that might downgrade Konohamarus durability here a bit

 

[Nierre]

that makes 0 sense. why would you try to "get someone out of the way" with a mfing chidori. chidori is a lethal jutsu lmao, he was obviously going for the kill

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I don’t see why would he hold back with a chidori.

That being said the only real problem could be that it's a wind style jutsu vs a lightning style jutsu. Wind release has an elemental advantage over lightning so that might downgrade Konohamarus durability here a bit

that makes 0 sense. why would you try to "get someone out of the way" with a mfing chidori. chidori is a lethal jutsu lmao, he was obviously going for the kill

Sure he might have been trying to kill him but do you actually think he was using ever once of his power to kill knohmaru? Do you crush an ant with all your force? Or all that be necessary

 

[Apollonir.Scale]

Sure he might have been trying to kill him but do you actually think he was using ever once of his power to kill knohmaru? Do you crush an ant with all your force? Or all that be necessary

In this case, it is necessary to prove that Hidari "will not hit an ant with all his strength". Chidori already scales above his physical strength. So, considering that Hidari has 5-B ap even without chidori, any attack that contains 5-B ap is an attack.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

In this case, it is necessary to prove that Hidari "will not hit an ant with all his strength". Chidori already scales above his physical strength. So, considering that Hidari has 5-B ap even without chidori, any attack that contains 5-B ap is an attack.

Don’t you also need to prove his using his full power agianst everyone? Despite hidari hitting knohamru with a chidori he didn’t even go after him to finish off the job.on top of that he even uses a chidori stream on sumire and it’s not like her body just gets instantly vaporized. They were both just out of the way. I don’t see why we’re assuming a guy that’s essentially slapping people out of the way is using maximum effort in every technique

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

What reason is there to assume that Hidari knows how durable Konohamaru is, and thus knows how much to hold back? As opposed to just assuming that he’s going all out (or at least close to it) given his blatant intent to kill? Especially when he knows that his enemies possess means to harm him. If you want to assert he must be holding back, you need to provide due logical justification for such, and you must provide better justification than the opposing claim, that’s how deciding which side of the equal interpretation is “more equal” works.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

That being said the only real problem could be that it's a wind style jutsu vs a lightning style jutsu. Wind release has an elemental advantage over lightning so that might downgrade Konohamarus durability here a bit

they have to be comparable otherwise the loser would be hit with nature disadvantage recoil. ( see army of water style users vs madara's fire release)

 

[Daoist_Pepe]

Everything looks good including 5-B konohamaru

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

What reason is there to assume that Hidari knows how durable Konohamaru is, and thus knows how much to hold back? As opposed to just assuming that he’s going all out (or at least close to it) given his blatant intent to kill? Especially when he knows that his enemies possess means to harm him. If you want to assert he must be holding back, you need to provide due logical justification for such, and you must provide better justification than the opposing claim, that’s how deciding which side of the equal interpretation is “more equal” works.

Dosen’t need to, his trying to kill him or atleast get him out of the way(just like sarada before hand for whatever reason) my point is that there’s no reason to assume his using his full power agianst everyone there just like your not gonna use your full strength agianst a bug. They kinda don’t since he can regen as I said and he clearly doesn’t care that much considering he didn’t go to finish konhamru off or kill sumire.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

he clearly doesn’t care that much considering he didn’t go to finish konhamru off or kill sumire.

That’s solely a product of him wanting to acquire Sarada, and nothing inherently to indicate “oh he held back”. Ikemoto isn’t going to kill off Konohamaru or Sumire anyway.

It’s also worth mentioning that Ikemoto makes it rather clear when a character holds back, opting to have it revealed in dialogue for shock factor.

 

[DavidTPPM]

they have to be comparable otherwise the loser would be hit with nature disadvantage recoil. ( see army of water style users vs madara's fire release)

Not exactly. An elemental disadvantage can completely negate ones attack. For example fire style consumes wind style and becomes even stronger. Lightning style could completely negate Deidaras earth style explosions. So it's impossible to measure how much weaker Konohamaru can be to block Hidaris blow. Especially when Konohamaru still got blasted away.


I think that taking the elemental disadvantage and Konohamaru still getting blown away into consideration, the durability clearly doesn't scale to the full value. A "possibly" or "at most" values seem more appropriate

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

That’s solely a product of him wanting to acquire Sarada, and nothing inherently to indicate “oh he held back”.

so he doesn’t care if they live or die but his using every once of his strength to kill them. Seems pretty counterproductive

It’s also worth mentioning that Ikemoto makes it rather clear when a character holds back, opting to have it revealed in dialogue for shock factor.

Ya when top tier characters are throwing down sure

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

so he doesn’t care if they live or die but his using every once of his strength to kill them. Seems pretty counterproductive

On the contrary, he doesn’t care to hold back, why would he.

Ya when top tier characters are throwing down sure

What do you think Hidari is?

 

[DavidTPPM]

Hidari holding back when using chidori shouldn't even be an argument. We know he can attack with just physical attacks so why would he use chidori and not just punch Konohamaru

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Not exactly. An elemental disadvantage can completely negate ones attack

no both jutsu have to be comparable to a degree, which is why you can still overpower someone who has the chakra nature advantage over you.

Both Sarada and Boruto bombarded Shinki with lightning release because thats what he was weak to and it still had no effect until boruto pulled out purple lightning, this is because if the gap in power between Jutsu is too wide the elemental advantage becomes ineffective. once again the same reason it took a platoon of suiton users to counter Madara's fire style.

. For example fire style consumes wind style and becomes even stronger. Lightning style could completely negate Deidaras earth style explosions.

this doesnt refute what i said

So it's impossible to measure how much weaker Konohamaru can be to block Hidaris blow. Especially when Konohamaru still got blasted away.

that doesnt really matter, we know Hidari's jutsu didnt entirely overpower his jutsu which is what would happen in the event of 1 jutsu being significantly stronger than the other, elemental affinity or not.

even if we were overly conservative and said he downscales to baseline, he would still be in the same tier

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Arc doesnt have to prove Hidari was going all out . what lol?. the burden of proof is on you to prove he was massively holding back. the wiki's fundamental scaling is based on using the static values of its individuals unless theres context that signifies not to do so, things like a character being amped, nerfed, PIS, CIS or an Outlier.