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Boboiboy won't have any wincons against steven with a shield that has such monstrous durability.
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Boboiboy vs Steven Universe
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Give me a moment.
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His power absorption would definitely work, Even if Steven's powers were biologically based as shown that the Balak element originated from a biological source. Shown here at 12:25 where it was stated that the Balak element originated from the Oatkuat plant in Boboiboy galaxy season 2 komik issue 6
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Crystal is one of them yes. Also Ochobot through Unknown means, somehow contained the powers of gravity, time, molecular and shadow manipulation through absorption in an unknown period.
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It's not as though Steven's gem actually has some sort of crystal elemental power. I thought this was gone over in the thread.
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After reading all the thread, I would say that Steven has better chances to win, I vote for him for now
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It needn't be a "crystal element" for example Shadow, Gravity, Time and Molecular manipulation isn't an elemental power, Yet it could somehow be absorbed and contained by Ochobot
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His shields and barriers are only 6C. It would break overtime if Boboiboy uses Supra fusion to break the shield by chip damage.
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Isnt boboiboy 7-A? and even if he could break the shield and barrier, what stop steven from just making other?
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That's not how we treat durability on this site. You're not "chip damaging" something 10 times your AP in durability.
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what exactly is chip damage?
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The idea that you can whittle away something far more durable than your raw power by repeatedly attacking it.
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I don't think that it would work against something that is way more durable than his AP, if it was only a bit more durable, it can makes sense
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Boboiboy's scaling chain goes like this
Baseline gets casually stomped by captain kaizo << lakasamana tarung is superior to Kaizo << an extremely depowered Retakka with only a tiny fragment of the gamma element stomps Lakasamana Tarung and everyone who was stationed at Tapops with the exception of captain Kaizo who wasn't present at that time << Retakka who is laughably superior to his previous state with 5 elements that includes gamma, balak, voltra, beliung and crystal << Boboiboy oneshots with Supra fusion.
As for why I think that steven's shield would break from chip damage is the amount of times that Boboiboy would Slash at the shield with Supra fusion in a single second. Here's the thing, the average time needed to swing a sword in a distance of 1 meter is 0.05s on average. Boboiboy supra attacks as fast as the speed of light in air with 299,702,547 m/s. So if he slashes at such speeds with his sickle swords (ignoring air resistance) for 1 second, it would have landed on steven's shield 5 994 050 940 times if steven doesn't respond with anything within that one second.
Boboiboy also has stamina that could last from morning till evening. So stamina drainage wouldn't be an issue for Boboiboy.
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Ten times dura wouldn't be much. Just like that time when I made a match for Boboiboy against Percy jackson who has AP and Dura about 20 times higher than the latter, they said it would be a stomp if speed wasn't equalised (despite them knowing jackson has invulnerability for all parts of his body except his nape)
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ten times dura is too much, in the same way that a difference of 10 times AP for example already is a stomp, in that logic, 10 times duras means that he cant break it
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You didn't read this one below haven't you...
This many attacks coming at his barrier at once would definitely break open the barrier and Popping the barrier to push back boboiboy wouldn't do much either when Boboiboy in his supra state when attacking in melee he would constantly use supra shift which changes him into photon and electronic particles.
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A gap that big between Bo's AP and steven's dura wouldnt break it with repatd hits
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There is no reason to it break the shield, the gap is immense
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Except, This. isn't. a. thing. on. the. site.
Chip damage as you describe it isn't going to work at all with this gap. And Boi could be 999 Megatons and still be too weak to do any harm to the bubble.
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So even if the Boboiboy slashed at the bubble a million times, it wouldn't do a single scratch?
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Is a ten times dura gap that significant even with the speed gap?
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Oh...dangit. so even if Boboiboy we're hitting the barrier that many times from morning till evening. The barrier wouldn't even break at all.
Hmmm...but anyway you haven't tried to counter this arguement below
Also Ochobot still has an option to Powernull/deactivate Steven's powers for a short moment of time enough for Boboiboy to get a hit in.
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Tbf, not many people knew that a tens times difference can be that significant. So could the same be said for an 8C vs a high 8C that has the same gap?
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Yes.
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Guess I made 2 stomp matches by accident even the speed wasn't equalised then.
But would the gap be very significant if it was just 2X or 3X as well?
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nope, 2x or 3x isnt a stomp, only things above 7x, because thats the difference between a normal human from people like bruce lee, or that man who has 9-C+ kicks in real lfe (the damage is the same as being crushed by a car on 3 meters per second), so, this is how the 7x comes from
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I think I understand it now. So the deciding factor of this fight depends on either Ochobot's powernull or power absorption that works on even powers which are bound by the organism's biology.
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Hol up... doesn't piercing damage negate massive durability gaps to a certain extent....?
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No, it doesn't. It all depends on how its treated.
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Supra's sickle swords are definitely extremely sharp even surpassing that of Thunderstorm's who could slice through Fang's shadow constructs/animals which are stated to be created using Magnetic-nanotecnology (11:46)
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Guess so.
....ummm...not exactly? The size of an average cell is 15-20 micrometers where as magnetic-nanoparticles are 50–200 nanometers. A nanometer is 1000 times smaller than a micrometer. That's not something on a cellular level bud.
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Oh, jeez...
I'm saying that just cutting through something made of nanobots isn't anymore impressive than regular cutting without context, same.as how cutting through a person isn't cellular level durability negation.
Oh, jeez...
I'm saying that just cutting through something made of nanobots isn't anymore impressive than regular cutting without context, same.as how cutting through a person isn't cellular level durability negation.
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Steven's shield isnt even made of matter, it's made of hard light, so that isnt even applicable
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Let me redirect you for a sec,
1.what you say is true.
2.what's showcased is the manipulation of magnetic-nanoparticles to create shadow/animal constructs.
3.there is never a statement nor feat that states that Fang let alone Ejojo is using nanobots.
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Again that really dosnt matter because Steven's shild is made of hard light
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That just means Ochobot could absorb that ya'know......whether it is light or crystal, Ochobot can absorb both.
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Okay? Steven has an infinite amount of it and he can create nw ones as much as he needs to plus youre kinda implying that Steven would just let him do that
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BBB's profile annoys me because of how little his profile explains.
Anyways, Steven can just make a new shield.
Anyways, Steven can just make a new shield.
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An error on my part. I'll find some time soon to add justifications to the page.
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His statistics would be amplified each time he absorbs the shield. Eventually it will surmount to the point Boboiboy would completely break the shield open with his own elements before landing the killing blow. however doing it once already gives him the ability to do so.
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Calling bullshit in BBB ever becoming strong enough to break a High 6-A shield when nothing on his profile suggests he could do that. Classic No Limits Fallacy.
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you meant....6C
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@The_Wright_Way its season2-season 3 key for steven
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Cool. Tier 6 shield is a tier 6 shield. He's not breaking it. End of story.
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Absorbing its energy with Ochobot and using the energy to break the next one bud. That's the entire point.
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You can't convince me a character who tops out at tier 7 can absorb enough energy to break a tier 6 shield. Not without feats to back it up.
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Do you have proof that Ochobot can absorb powers other than its own powers? Because one of the reasons Ochobot/BBB has absorption is by them absorbing their stolen powers back
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Ochobot managed to absorb an amped Retakka who previously absorbed all the electrical energies of Planet Gur'latan, A planetary cyclone of Planet Bayugan and all Fauna that covers the entire planet of Planet Rimbara. Basically...a bunch of uncalculated tier 6 calcs that @Sir_Ovens is trying to find people who could calc them.
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Uncalc'd = irrelevant.
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Basically this.
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Word of advice, dude. Wanking up an obscure verse just to rack up wins is a good way to get people to resent both you and the verse. Don't become the next Butters.
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the elemtal powers weren't originally contained within Ochobot and were retrieved from outside sources as shown during Boboiboy Galaxy komik 2 isu 9, it was shown that the Balak element originated from a biological soprce named the Oatkuat seed before conversion to Boboiboy;s current elemental manipulation througfh his Powerband
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wanking?
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I made several wrong claims previously a few months ago..............so FYI, when the 9th isu came out for the secong part of Boboiboy Galaxy....there was a change of claims...
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Though I disagree with High 6-A SU fodders, Steven stomps with the shield. Seriously, just close this, OP is stone walling at this point
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What fodder character is High 6-A in SU?
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Wait, I'm stupid, I meant the mid high tiers
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You still haven't proved that Ochobot can actively absorb or affect powers that did not come from it.
You're stretching one instance of Ochobot absorbing powers, and nulling powers, and keep claiming he would be able to do that in every single thread via vague "scanning his opponents"
Ignoring the fact that Ochobot's Power Absorption worked on Rettaka because he had absorbed some of BBB's powers, and the Power Nullification worked on FANG because he got his powers from Ochobot.
With no other instances of them ever being used again.
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Yeah, I think we're done here. Closing this.
@Greatsage13th keep up this kind of behavior and you'll be taking a one way trip to the Rule Violations Report Board.
@Greatsage13th keep up this kind of behavior and you'll be taking a one way trip to the Rule Violations Report Board.
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