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Bleach Speed upgrades
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ONE THING!
I would really appreciate if one of u guys bumps the calc in calculations evaluations thread as im already bumping several of my other calcs.
Thank you.
I would really appreciate if one of u guys bumps the calc in calculations evaluations thread as im already bumping several of my other calcs.
Thank you.
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Pretty sure we don't really accept that here since Gin lied about his bankai, i know you're going to say "Gin lied to Aizen" but it would make no sense for Gin to tell a different lie to Ichigo, he outright says it doesn't move as fast as he said it did and he likely said the same speed to Aizen.Zzsax said:
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@Tatahakai I thought he was Lying about the ability of the bankai which was cellular disintegration..i mean the speed has to be close to mach 500 to be believable...ichigo and especially aizen where both intelligent speedsters. In real life u can't throw a stone at someone and lie that it's bullet speed
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Naruto databooks 1 and 2 said Itachi killed his clan to test his abilities iirc, point is obviously databook isn't going to have spoilers to chapters later on?Frantzy12 said:
Gin outright says he lied about how fast it was, again, nothing suggests he said any different speed to Aizen as he did to ichigo.
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Can't wait until Seireitei is recalculated again in 2 months.
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@Tata
Good thing these are not Naruto databooks,it covers the entire arc up until Aizen defeat so that spoiler thing doesn't even make sense.
Like I said these properties exist only as decoys to hide Kamishini no Yari's true abilities.Which he was saving to kill Aizen.What he told Ichigo was 100% true and is backed by the databook.
Good thing these are not Naruto databooks,it covers the entire arc up until Aizen defeat so that spoiler thing doesn't even make sense.
Like I said these properties exist only as decoys to hide Kamishini no Yari's true abilities.Which he was saving to kill Aizen.What he told Ichigo was 100% true and is backed by the databook.
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Ichigo didn't know Shunpo until he learned BankaiAppleLord said:
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Naruto databooks 1 and 2 said Itachi killed his clan to test his abilities iirc, point is obviously databook isn't going to have spoilers to chapters later on?
Gin outright says he lied about how fast it was, again, nothing suggests he said any different speed to Aizen as he did to ichigo.
I guess the question is does databook statement >>>>character statement or vice versa?
"It doesn't move that fast " couldn't it also translate to the bankai being faster(considering he tagged aizen albeit by snaky surprise) and there is no proof that he lied to ichigo as Aizen wasn't listening at the moment.... Ugh so many variables
Gin outright says he lied about how fast it was, again, nothing suggests he said any different speed to Aizen as he did to ichigo.
I guess the question is does databook statement >>>>character statement or vice versa?
"It doesn't move that fast " couldn't it also translate to the bankai being faster(considering he tagged aizen albeit by snaky surprise) and there is no proof that he lied to ichigo as Aizen wasn't listening at the moment.... Ugh so many variables
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Frantzy12 is correct. Databook confirms that Gin's speed is correct and one of his ability multiplies his speed x2 of the Mach 500 one. Making Ichigo's reactions Mach 1000. So the "Gin lied to Aizen is correct." after all Gin wanted to kill Aizen. Why would he tell the truth to an enemy? His poison technique is his bankai true power, that's also explained.
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Gin never told a lie to Ichigo, that's the point. He just didn't tell the hold truth to Aizen. (The guy he planned to kill since he was a kid.)
Databook translation.
"As implied in 13 BLADEs, Gin's Bankai can indeed grow as long as he told Ichigo and at the speed he claimed, although it doesn't always do this. This is because these properties exist only as decoys to hide Kamishini no Yari's true abilities."
"Apparently, when Gin first used it to slice those skyscrapers, it did indeed reach 13km."
"Gin's Buto technique is designed to make full use of KnY's apparent speed. Buto Renjin has double the speed and attack power of Buto. Few attacks can match Buto Renjin's attack power (it literally says the attack power is "incomparable" but that sounds like BS to me)."
Databook translation.
"As implied in 13 BLADEs, Gin's Bankai can indeed grow as long as he told Ichigo and at the speed he claimed, although it doesn't always do this. This is because these properties exist only as decoys to hide Kamishini no Yari's true abilities."
"Apparently, when Gin first used it to slice those skyscrapers, it did indeed reach 13km."
"Gin's Buto technique is designed to make full use of KnY's apparent speed. Buto Renjin has double the speed and attack power of Buto. Few attacks can match Buto Renjin's attack power (it literally says the attack power is "incomparable" but that sounds like BS to me)."
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What chapter did the mimihagi feat happen?
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Ichigo didn't know Shunpo until he learned Bankai
Shunpo is faster than sound. Doesn't matter if he learned after
The point is, how is Substitute Arc Shunpo mach 1 when he didn't know Shunpo at all?
Shunpo is faster than sound. Doesn't matter if he learned after
The point is, how is Substitute Arc Shunpo mach 1 when he didn't know Shunpo at all?
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If Ichigo is Mach 1 without Shunpo, it wouldn't be make sense for Shunpo to be any slower than Mach 1.
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@Apple
Yeah but Shunpo should be scaled from the slowest practitioner, not someone without it.
Yeah but Shunpo should be scaled from the slowest practitioner, not someone without it.
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Is the current topic of this resolved?
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The Sub-Rel speed? It looks like it, but we probably have to wait and see.
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What is with Bleach being recalced every other week?
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Multiple things, me re reading it again, more news about the possibility of the anime returning and few other things.
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For some reason there's always a flaw in a bleach calc that causes it to be not valied, why we don't catch this mistakes the very moment the calcs are created is beyond me
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Well since this seems to be settled and accepted I'll apply the edits later. Part of me wants to make the edits after the new Gremmy and Yhwach calcs are made just so we can get everything done in one go.
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New size of the Seireitei which effects both of the calcs. ShrekAlmighty did a rough calc for Gremmy which yielded 25 Teratons. We also accept his 6x multipler which gives us 150 Teratons but like I said it's a rough calc so we'll have to wait for the full calc. It might be lower or higher.
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Why would Gin tell Aizen and Ichigo a different lie about his Bankai? To keep his lie consistent, he would have told them the same thing. Also, that was Kubo telling us through Gin's mouth that everything we knew about Gin's Bankai was a lie.
Can't depend on a databook for everything, especially when there's clearly some contradiction here.
Can't depend on a databook for everything, especially when there's clearly some contradiction here.
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No that's not calc stacking. The size is calculated for the Seireitei and that's what we're using just like we did before.
