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@Damage3245 You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with the series. But whatever, I'm not in the right state of mind to argue bs like this rn.
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Bleach Revisions-- Re:Continuation
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@LordAizenSama Please explain to them why God Tiers are Planet level. I really can't be bothered to do so rn.
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It's not downplaying, it is a statement of a fact. Maintaining the flow of souls throughout the 3 worlds is not a planet level feat. The worlds collapse naturally if the flow of souls isn't maintained. And the Soul King is just a lynchpin in a larger machine, not the only thing responsible for maintaining the flow.AppleLord said:
No one in Bleach is Planet level.
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Argument that makes Soul King Planet level: "Yhwach said he was gonna destroy and remake the three worlds!!!"
Except...
1. Soul King maintains the flow of souls throughout the three worlds. That's all it does.
2. The worlds are naturally unstable and will naturally collapse into one another if the flow is not properly kept in check.
3. Soul King is not the only thing keeping the worlds stable. He is a lynchpin, not the whole machine. Him being removed is the equivalent of removing one cog from a system which makes the whole thing stop working.
4. No statements of method or time frame for Yhwach.
Logical conclusion: Yhwach isn't Planet level.
Except...
1. Soul King maintains the flow of souls throughout the three worlds. That's all it does.
2. The worlds are naturally unstable and will naturally collapse into one another if the flow is not properly kept in check.
3. Soul King is not the only thing keeping the worlds stable. He is a lynchpin, not the whole machine. Him being removed is the equivalent of removing one cog from a system which makes the whole thing stop working.
4. No statements of method or time frame for Yhwach.
Logical conclusion: Yhwach isn't Planet level.
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Reposting as it is important.Damage3245 said:
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@Apple
Please don't make a strawman here. Nobody said that. Yhwach killing Ichigo is a feat. Yhwach collapsing the worlds because there's no more Soul King to maintain the flow of souls isn't.
Please don't make a strawman here. Nobody said that. Yhwach killing Ichigo is a feat. Yhwach collapsing the worlds because there's no more Soul King to maintain the flow of souls isn't.
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Oh I see 5-B Bleach again. Oh its being argued by matt, what a surprise.
They are 5-B for Yhwach merging the worlds. Scrolling up above looks like a bunch of people who are just slinging mud trying to get something to stick,
This will not be changing
Also we really eed a tule so people who don't know what they are talking about stop wasting my, and others time.
Oh and superior to senna who has a low 5b feat but that doesn't really matter
They are 5-B for Yhwach merging the worlds. Scrolling up above looks like a bunch of people who are just slinging mud trying to get something to stick,
This will not be changing
Also we really eed a tule so people who don't know what they are talking about stop wasting my, and others time.
Oh and superior to senna who has a low 5b feat but that doesn't really matter
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Why is everyone so freaking hostile here?....
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Because people can't accept diverging opinions.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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Firstly, don't make personal attacks.
"They are 5-B for Yhwach merging the worlds."
1. How.
2. In what timeframe.
3. What exactly does that entail.
"Scrolling up above looks like a bunch of people who are just slinging mud trying to get something to stick"
Once again, it would be best to address the actual arguments.
"This will not be changing"
It most likely looks like it will. More and more people are against it, and using scans and proof to show that there is no Planet level feat in Bleach.
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Also Senna is non-canon.
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Everyone who has an opinion should be allowed to speak, as long as they argue with arguments and logic and not feelings and insults.
Trying to block freedom of speech by personally attacking others and dismissing the very premise of an opinion without analytically deconstructing their arguments leads nowhere.
So far, the Downgrade side has presented more logical arguments and less personal attacks.
Trying to block freedom of speech by personally attacking others and dismissing the very premise of an opinion without analytically deconstructing their arguments leads nowhere.
So far, the Downgrade side has presented more logical arguments and less personal attacks.
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Because Senna is non-canon.PaChi2 said:
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Yhwach states that Soul Society is returning to its former existence. Therefore if all of those worlds are crumbling, something will be left at the end of the process. No reason why that couldn't be the new world Yhwach is making.AppleLord said:
Is there any other explanation for Yhwach being able to make a new world, and how long it takes him to do this?
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@PaChi
It was brought up by Matt. Non-Canon
@Matt
Liberals vs Conservatives in a nutshell eh
It was brought up by Matt. Non-Canon
@Matt
Liberals vs Conservatives in a nutshell eh
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Please don't bring politics into this.
Please don't bring politics into this.
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Sheesh. Someone's on edge :/
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Does that also explain how Yhwach is creating a new one from their remains?
But again, HOW is he recreating it? In what timeframe? None of these factors are being considered, just ignored. "Creating" or "recreating" alone can be chalked up to many different methods and is certainly not enough for a tiering without further context.
But again, HOW is he recreating it? In what timeframe? None of these factors are being considered, just ignored. "Creating" or "recreating" alone can be chalked up to many different methods and is certainly not enough for a tiering without further context.
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I did.PaChi2 said:
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But again, HOW is he recreating it? In what timeframe? None of these factors are being considered, just ignored. "Creating" or "recreating" alone can be chalked up to many different methods and is certainly not enough for a tiering without further context.
We already saw a method on how Yhwach creates things, and how long it took him. The 6-B feat.
We already saw a method on how Yhwach creates things, and how long it took him. The 6-B feat.
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Making a Country level feat casually isn't evidence of Planet level the same way me lifting a chair easily isn't evidence for me deadlifting 250 kilograms.
Except Country level to Planet level is worse by orders of magnitude.
Except Country level to Planet level is worse by orders of magnitude.
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Except you're physically lifting a chair. Yhwach isn't doing anything at all. He just thought of it and it happened. Telekinesis. Just because Sasuke and Naruto can lift a moon to space, doesn't mean they can do it with their own physical strength.Matthew Schroeder said:
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Just because Yhwach quickly did Creation for a 6-B feat doesn't mean it can be done the same way for higher tier ones. That's assumptions and, no offense, wank.
You need to prove the same method of creating works for both tiers.
You need to prove the same method of creating works for both tiers.
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>Point
>Your head.
I was using a metaphor.
The whole point is that Yhwach doing a Country level feat, no matter how casual, is not evidence of anything beyond Country level+.
That's it. That's how we do things.
Yhwach still had to excert energy to do it.
>Your head.
I was using a metaphor.
The whole point is that Yhwach doing a Country level feat, no matter how casual, is not evidence of anything beyond Country level+.
That's it. That's how we do things.
Yhwach still had to excert energy to do it.
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Nothing existed before the Soul King? That's directly contradicted by the manga with Yhwach claiming that the Soul King was created to bring stability to the flow of souls.
Also, reading the manga Bleach and reading all of the novels attached to Bleach is not the same thing.
Also, reading the manga Bleach and reading all of the novels attached to Bleach is not the same thing.
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