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Black☆Star vs Erza Scarlet

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Black☆Star VS Erza Scarlet​

  • In character
  • Speed Equalized
  • EOS Black Star and 100YQ Erza
  • Fight takes place in the Magic Games
  • Win via KO, Incapacitation, Killing.

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Black Star: @GilverTheProtoAngelo, @Popted2, @LordGinSama
Erza Scarlet: @Zackra1799, @speedster352
Inconclusive:
 
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Very interesting matçh up...it all comes down to combat skills between both.
I lean in favour of Star due to Tsubaki's readily usable variety of weapons on the fly along with more kinetic style of fighting for Star.
 
Pretty sure this can't be added if you restrict her strongest armors as they are still island level, besides her enchanted swords which are near slightly above baseline large island level.
 
I'm pretty sure you can.. though I'll double check.

Cause you can restrict "Likely" and "Possibly" so I'd assume you can restrict "+"
 
As for the fight itself, Erza takes this

She significantly out skills Black Star and has a ridiculous mobility advantage, she can blitz with flight armor, drop danmaku way outside his range, has a massive versatility advantage, can land devastating imperceptible cuts with wing blade armor, and has far better stamina and better pain tolerance.
 
Star has more mobility...he can fly wherever he wants.
He also has shadow clones to run interference and distraction.
Stars weapon switching is far more swift and mobile and not to mention he spams weapon switching.
Endurance and pain tolerance for Star is no joke...in last fight he almost had his spine crushed...and he still keeps fighting.
His infinite sword style inherited from Muzan is no joke...he can definitely handle danmaku.

Also he has dura negging soul based attacks...so he will bypass her defenses easily. She gets soul manipped.
 
As for the fight itself, Erza takes this

She significantly out skills Black Star and has a ridiculous mobility advantage, she can blitz with flight armor, drop danmaku way outside his range, has a massive versatility advantage, can land devastating imperceptible cuts with wing blade armor, and has far better stamina and better pain tolerance.
Ok I just checked, I cant restrict them, so I'll change the post
 
As for the fight itself, Erza takes this

She significantly out skills Black Star and has a ridiculous mobility advantage, she can blitz with flight armor, drop danmaku way outside his range, has a massive versatility advantage, can land devastating imperceptible cuts with wing blade armor, and has far better stamina and better pain tolerance.
Counted
Black Star's AP: 25 Gigatons
Erza's AP: 17.2 Gigatons(?)
Erza's AP is 68.8 Gigatons with her Strongest Armors, I believe.. so about a 2.72x difference.
 
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Also note Black Star heavily upscales from Crona's Black Blood Dome feat. They later absorb Asura and becomes even stronger.
Black Star gets his own madness transformation and is capable of matching this amped Chrona.
He can also make tangible shadow clones to aid him in attacks at same time.

So Erza's AP is rendered moot and Star has sufficient AP and versatility advantage to overwhelm Erza over course of battle. That along with Soul manip makes it lot easier to take her down.
 
Star has more mobility...he can fly wherever he wants.
He doesn't have flight listed on his profile, also Erza has multiple forms of movement such as running along vertical surfaces and fly herself with various armors. She's also fought and beaten enemies that can fly before so this won't be a surprise to her at all. Flight also doesn't help him much given the massive range disadvantage he's at.
He also has shadow clones to run interference and distraction.
Erza was able to instantly deduce the real Youko's location despite her having dozens of clones active at once. She can also dispel summons/clones with her Fear manip.
Stars weapon switching is far more swift and mobile and not to mention he spams weapon switching.
Erza only needs a thought to switch her armor and weapons, Erza spams her requips as well with each having a unique fighting style.
Endurance and pain tolerance for Star is no joke...in last fight he almost had his spine crushed...and he still keeps fighting.
Erza was inflicted with so much pain during her fight with kyoka that it felt like half of her abdomen was blown off with a single blow and she took dozens of said hits all over her body with relative ease. She also had most of her bones broken in her fight with Irene and despite having only 1 useable limb she was still able to counter Irene's strongest attack, tanked getting impaled and was still capable of fighting even after all that.
His infinite sword style inherited from Muzan is no joke...he can definitely handle danmaku.
Erza's Danmaku is pin point accurate being able to target over 200 hundred different hovering objects simultaneously 3 timeskips ago. She's capable of countering her own Danmaku with ease, she can counter thousands of needles being thrown at her from Evergreen without issue, fight with swords in her toes, fought and beat someone that could blitz her with skill alone with just one blade. She can pull out her Thousand armed armor and fight with 6 blades at once making close quarters fighting very dangerous for Black Star.
Also he has dura negging soul based attacks...so he will bypass her defenses easily. She gets soul manipped.
Erza has fought and beaten many people with Dura neg in the past so this is nothing new to Erza.
Also note Black Star heavily upscales from Crona's Black Blood Dome feat. They later absorb Asura and becomes even stronger.
Black Star gets his own madness transformation and is capable of matching this amped Chrona.
He can also make tangible shadow clones to aid him in attacks at same time.
Erza has her own amps and has the initial AP advantage, Erza's fear manip can overwhelm clones to the point they disappear. After images won't work either given Erza's artificial eye counters visual phenomenon.
So Erza's AP is rendered moot and Star has sufficient AP and versatility advantage to overwhelm Erza over course of battle. That along with Soul manip makes it lot easier to take her down.
This is just false, not only does Erza has an almost 3x initial ap advantage given she also upscaled from said value, she can further amp on top of that and has far more versatility than star given her vast amount of weapons which number in the hundreds each of which has their own unique fighting style that Erza employs on a whim. Erza can interchange her various armors and weapons with a thought and summon any number of them at a time making a ridiculous amount of combinations that she can employ any time she wishes.

Erza also has a massive LS advantage and could easily disarm Star just be knocking his weapon out of his hands. Not to mention his stealth would be completely useless due to Erza's instinctive reactions.
 
https://***********.com/read-online/Soul-Eater-chapter-111.html

Literally entire last 10 manga chapters are Black Star and Co. fighting in the air against Asura flying around on surface of moon. Acrobatics is something Star himself is expert in and faught against other people of similar mobility.

Those aren't illusions...those are shadow/Darkness constructs aiding him in battle as he wishes.

He can literally swallow a laser blast and barf it out after containing it. The above chapter I had posted has his spine broken as Tsubaki points out...even then he can keep fighting with a severely damaged body. Even goes on to say he can just stay upright without spine with muscles alone.
The amount of internal organ damage and pain and structural injury he can endure and still keep fighting is insane.

Erza caps at 68.8 Gigs with her strongest armours.
She is comparable but weaker against Red Lightning Laxus who himself is comparable to Fire Dragon King Natsu who is rated 68.8 Gigs.
Thats her limit.
Going off of her profile and other peeps she compares to.

Meanwhile the Black Blood Dome was done by Crona who hadn't even absorbed Asura yet...who is a God Tier.
Last few chapters Star scraps against Asura+Crona where even he acknowledged his power.
27 Gigs = Crona<<<<<<Crona+Asura Absorbed=Maka+Soul Resonance=Black Star.

Asura was literally one shotting Maka casually before she resonated....and Black is comparable to this amped Maka.

He has more AP advantage. Plus he has statistics amplification on speed and power with various Tsubaki modes as shown in notable abilities section. So he definitely overwhelms her. Plus he has soul manip which doesn't care for durability at all.

LS means jackshit when he can just play hit and run tactics with her....which he is expert at. And Tsubaki can just come back to Black IF she gets separated...which ain't happening...he has other ways of preventing separation..like chains and shadows and stuff to catch and reequip Tsubaki.

Star also has exceptional skill in battle...capable of subconsciously adapting to battle styles. Which also covers his own instinctive reactions and Accelerated Development in skill. He can scrap with Mifune who can manually control crap load of swords and attack from all directions. He adapted to this style and later replicated it himself in battle against Crona/Asura.

Range means jackshit when battle is happening in arena. Its not like she is Kilometers apart ... which even if she was it isn't a problem considering Star has experience fighting over long ranges as shown on Moon fight.
 

Literally entire last 10 manga chapters are Black Star and Co. fighting in the air against Asura flying around on surface of moon. Acrobatics is something Star himself is expert in and faught against other people of similar mobility.
Great, there's just one problem. It's not listed on his profile. Erza has caught up to and easily defeated people like Evergreen who's main tactic is to fly away and launch thousands of needles at her enemy. His flying is not an issue.
Those aren't illusions...those are shadow/Darkness constructs aiding him in battle as he wishes.
I was referring to his after images, I already said why clones are useless as a single look from Erza can cause said clones to vanish just like she did against nienhart.
The amount of internal organ damage and pain and structural injury he can endure and still keep fighting is insane.
That's all well and good despite this being not on his profile at all.
Erza caps at 68.8 Gigs with her strongest armours.

She is comparable but weaker against Red Lightning Laxus who himself is comparable to Fire Dragon King Natsu who is rated 68.8 Gigs.
Thats her limit.
Going off of her profile and other peeps she compares to.
If you actually followed the scaling chain you would discover that then 68.8 comes a 4x increase on top of another 4x increase which are both incredible low balls for the power for these increases themselves. Characters that scale from this massively up scale from a super high end large mountain level feat. So the 68.8 is only a low ball. This also isn't including her empowerment increases which is a core mechanism of the verse which can drastically increase the magic power of a mage in times of need.
Meanwhile the Black Blood Dome was done by Crona who hadn't even absorbed Asura yet...who is a God Tier.
Last few chapters Star scraps against Asura+Crona where even he acknowledged his power.
27 Gigs = Crona<<<<<<Crona+Asura Absorbed=Maka+Soul Resonance=Black Star.

Asura was literally one shotting Maka casually before she resonated....and Black is comparable to this amped Maka.
Okay don't see how any of this is relevant given these are all unquantifiable increases. Erza holds an almost 3x statistical advantage given both characters upscale from their respective feats.
He has more AP advantage. Plus he has statistics amplification on speed and power with various Tsubaki modes as shown in notable abilities section. So he definitely overwhelms her. Plus he has soul manip which doesn't care for durability at all.
This is just false, Erza ***** on him in skill and has higher AP and blitz speed amps and has enough skill to counter characters that can blitz her.
LS means jackshit when he can just play hit and run tactics with her....which he is expert at. And Tsubaki can just come back to Black IF she gets separated...which ain't happening...he has other ways of preventing separation..like chains and shadows and stuff to catch and reequip Tsubaki.
How the hell can he play hit and run at a range disadvantage in an open area no less🤣

If Erza grabs Tsubaki she can just keep her there without issue given the massive LS advantage she has over Black.
Star also has exceptional skill in battle...capable of subconsciously adapting to battle styles. Which also covers his own instinctive reactions and Accelerated Development in skill. He can scrap with Mifune who can manually control crap load of swords and attack from all directions. He adapted to this style and later replicated it himself in battle against Crona/Asura.
Now you're just listening abilities that aren't even on his profile. You can't argue for shit that he doesn't have. So either go make a crt or don't bring it up.
Range means jackshit when battle is happening in arena. Its not like she is Kilometers apart ... which even if she was it isn't a problem considering Star has experience fighting over long ranges as shown on Moon fight.
It does when the arena is almost 200m wide with a cave system underneath that goes for Kilometers. Your also acting like they have to stay in the arena lol, his range caps out at extended melee on his profile so Erza can range spam as much as she wants.
 
Great, there's just one problem. It's not listed on his profile. Erza has caught up to and easily defeated people like Evergreen who's main tactic is to fly away and launch thousands of needles at her enemy. His flying is not an issue.
Technically it is...considering its used for his relativistic speed calc which shows his flying and catching lasers.
Also I only braught up flight cuz you said that somehow Erza having that will give her advantage...which gets nulled with his own flight.

If you actually followed the scaling chain you would discover that then 68.8 comes a 4x increase on top of another 4x increase which are both incredible low balls for the power for these increases themselves. Characters that scale from this massively up scale from a super high end large mountain level feat. So the 68.8 is only a low ball. This also isn't including her empowerment increases which is a core mechanism of the verse which can drastically increase the magic power of a mage in times of need.
I actually didn't understand your point here.
Do you mean she upscales from 68.8G or that 68.8G is a lowball and actual value is higher???
If its former....then that is completely contradicted by her profile...she is with her strongest armour still comparable but weaker to Red Lightning Laxus who scales to 68.8G.
So technically Erza~<Laxus=68.8G.
If its latter...then again thats contradicted verse page giving the scaling, it maybe a lowball but that is what is accepted, if you feel that the value should be higher....the get the actual scaling on verse page upscaled.

Its not like its some missing scaling or something....what you are saying goes against the page itself.
Okay don't see how any of this is relevant given these are all unquantifiable increases. Erza holds an almost 3x statistical advantage given both characters upscale from their respective feats.
If verse doesn't give one shot multiplier...its assumed to be 7.5x for vs matches.
So 27G×7.5 for Black Star.
Which definitely eclipses Erza's statistics.

Also this doesn't keep her safe from soul manipulation which cares jack all about her durability. One or two hits and she is done for.
This is just false, Erza ***** on him in skill and has higher AP and blitz speed amps and has enough skill to counter characters that can blitz her.
I haven't seen anything which makes her shit on him in skill. All I see is danmaku and instinctive reactions....which isn't anything impressive in all honesty. With proper tools and tactical intelligence..it can easily be countered. Black Star can easily shield himself with Soul Aura as stated on profile against projectiles.....or just deflect them himself with attacks, all the while advancing on her.
He has his own instinctive reactions. So this isn't even an advantage for her.
Star has his own speed&power amps with transformation, one which makes him faster then the opponent can percieve.

How the hell can he play hit and run at a range disadvantage in an open area no less
Just cuz its an open area means jackshit. Hit and run means being over evasive and sneaking hits into openings rather than confronting head on in fight.

Also 200m wide arena doesn't care about range when said characters have relativistic speeds. They can take one step and close distance instantly.
Now you're just listening abilities that aren't even on his profile. You can't argue for shit that he doesn't have. So either go make a crt or don't bring it up.
That is a fighting skill feats and combat intelligence. Not everyhing is supposed to be on profile....its not even a hax.
I admit the profile is ass quality...doesn't mean you tell people to keep unnecessary things on profile.
Especially when the series provides skill feats by tons cuz its a fighting manga, you can't expect for entire feats to be there considering there's a lot to cover.

It does when the arena is almost 200m wide with a cave system underneath that goes for Kilometers. Your also acting like they have to stay in the arena lol, his range caps out at extended melee on his
I just went off of picture...I don't know anything else besides it.

If Erza grabs Tsubaki she can just keep her there without issue given the massive LS advantage she has over Black.
And then Tsubaki can cause damage to her.
Tsubaki isn't just some weapon, she is a human. She has intelligence and is just as strong as Star. She soul manips and calls it a day or possess her and calls it a day.

Only a Miester with compatible with Weapon can weild them...which Erza can't.

I was referring to his after images, I already said why clones are useless as a single look from Erza can cause said clones to vanish just like she did against nienhart
You mean this guy??
Weaknesses: People with enough will that can surpass their fears and weaknesses from the past may be able to directly vanish his creations. Not very strong on his own.
So its not a feat for Erza...its a weakness for Nein.
A weakness which isn't in Star.
And most importantly what makes you think Erza can scare a guy who can troll Asura who can induce madnes and fear into entire human population of planet Earth just by flexing??
She doesn't even have iota of fear hax potency to bypass Star's busted mind resistance.
 
Soul Eater profiles are ass, Black would rock Erza's shit with medium difficulty.


Erza's AoE isn't much of an issue given that Star can cross hundreds of KM instantly with his speed amps. Also Erza doesn't resist soul Manipulation which would leave Erza either knocked out or severely injured as she lacks resistance to SR.


As for his endurance, Star can handle a laser exploding within his throat, eyes and innards and spit it back out casually.
 
Soul Eater profiles are ass, Black would rock Erza's shit with medium difficulty.


Erza's AoE isn't much of an issue given that Star can cross hundreds of KM instantly with his speed amps. Also Erza doesn't resist soul Manipulation which would leave Erza either knocked out or severely injured as she lacks resistance to SR.


As for his endurance, Star can handle a laser exploding within his throat, eyes and innards and spit it back out casually.
Ezra has an armour and weapon that can cut through anything and even space ignoring durabilty.
 
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