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Black evil goo thing vs Reinhard unofficial wife

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I'm sorry Karutiasu, i just cannot hold it anymore.


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For billions of years I have lived. I have my memory in the early days of this planet. When Earth was but a rock and fire. -- I witnessed species evolve and head into eternal extinction. I wonder how long man will survive? For aeons I have pondered the meaning of my existence. Alas, I am still unable to find my answer. All things must come to an end. Planets, stars, entire universes, even Gods. Perhaps my destiny is simply to be destroyed. And yet I am immortal. My freedom is my captivity. I shall not die. I delight at your power. -- Perhaps Man does have a future on this planet. We shall see if He is above God himself.
~ Akron's speech during the final battle​
Summary
Akro is an Ancient Deity who lived for billions of years, before even life on Earth. He is an extremely mysterious and powerful entity who was draining the Earth of its energy and resources. Oddly enough, Akron was stated to be either created or summoned by Godcat herself, as a "gift to humanity". What she meant by this is unknown.

Powers and Stats
Tier: At least High 4-C, possibly 3-A | At least 4-B, possibly 3-A

Name:
Akron, the Ancient Deity

Origin: Epic Battle Fantasy

Gender: Likely Genderless, but referred to as a male

Age: At least Billions of years old, possibly older. His oldest memories are when the Earth was still new, yet claims that he may be far older.

Classification: Deity

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Magic, Empathic Manipulation, Darkness Manipulation (Can create large voids of Shadows, complete with eyes and teeth), Ice Manipulation, Air Manipulation, Soul Manipulation ("Tugged" at the souls of the party), Space-Time Manipulation, Void Manipulation (Manipulated the Space-Time of his tomb and turned it into a void of nothingness), Summoning (Can summon robots, demons, clay soldiers as well as countless monsters), Body Control (Can manipulate its countless tentacles, claws and mouths freely), Poison Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Reality Warping/Pocket Reality Manipulation (Manipulated his lair into what seemed to be a pocket realm, complete with a sky), Earth Manipulation, Water Manipulation (Created many typhoons), Weather Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Some degree of mastery over blades and firearms, Healing, Can amplify his stats, Immortality (Type 1), Can become resistant to Fire, Water, Ice, Air, Earth, Poison, Explosio, Radiation, Electricity, Light and Darkness Manipulation, BFR (Transported the party, as well as scattered their gear all across the world), Self-Resurrection , Status Effect Inducement, can harm intangible beings, can ignore regular durability with Magic, Empathic Manipulation, Power Nullification via Absorption, Energy Projection, Resistance to Gravity Manipulation, Antimatter Manipulation and Magic | All of the above, Flight, Danmaku

Attack Potency: At least Large Star level+ (His awakening generated this amount of energy), possibly Universe level (It was said that the destruction of the universe was less significant to the death of "God himself". Was directly created by Godcat herself) | At least Solar System level (Warped an entire black hole and used it as his pocket realm. Was considered a threat to the entire galaxy should he escape), possibly Universe level (Far superior to his previous incarnation and should be above even the avatars of Godcat)

Speed: At least FTL (Faster than the party, who could freely traverse and leave the pocket dimension of his creation, in which it was said that not even light could escape from) | Massively FTL+ (Approximately 604,672,566c. Kept up with Matt, who was said to be faster than light by Lance and could fly to the core of the Galaxy in a matter of minutes)

Lifting Strength: At least Class P (As strong, if not stronger than Lance) | At least Class P (Immensely superior to his previous incarnation)

Striking Strength: At least Large Star Class+ (Able to harm the likes of Matt, Natalie and Lance with his strikes), possibly Universal (Claimed that the destruction of stars and even universes weren't much compared to him) | At least Solar System Class, possibly Universal (Focuses more on ranged attacks and danmaku, but should still be around this strong)

Durability: At least Large Star level+ (It took a massive bombardment of Matt, Lance, Natalie, NoLegs The Cat and the Valkyrie Tank fighting it all at once to finally kill it), possibly Universe level (Implied that destroying stars and even universes aren't much compared to destroying Gods like itself) | At least Solar System level, possibly Universe level (Should be vastly superior to his previous incarnation)

Stamina: Vastly Superhuman (Showed no signs of tiring during his battles)

Range: Planetary (Was draining the Earth of its power, caused planetary storms), possibly higher (Created a massive pocket realm that seemed to contain celestial bodies) | Stellar, possibly higher (Warped the black hole at the centre of the galaxy and used it as a pocket realm. Far superior to his previous incarnation)

Standard Equipment: Runic Swords, Fire Arms, Missiles, Claws, Tentacles, Several Robots, Summons, Demons and more.

Intelligence: Extremely High (Has billions of years of knowledge and experience, seems to have a clear recollection of history since the Earth was formed. Has apparently fought countless battles against countless enemies and has only seemed to have been defeated via sealing in the past [Before finally being slew by Matt, Nataile and Lance that is]. Has mastery over multiple weapons and schools of magic, from swords and guns to darkness and healing)

Weaknesses: His weaknesses can change on the fly, but can be weak to Fire, Ice, Earth, Wind, Light, Explosion, Lightning, Dark and Poison-based attacks.

Feats: Defeated Matt, Natalie and Lance and absorbed their strength into his own before even waking up. His awakening caused the entire world to descend into chaos, causing massive storms and earthquakes


BB
Welcome to the proving grounds! Too bad, you didn't watch your step! Carelessly running through a minefield. An assault-type variety, swooping down on my careless, thoughtless, worry-free senpai ― a dishonest and inescapable episode of the BB Channel starts now!
~ BB starting up the BB Channel​
Summary
BB is an AI created from Sakura Matou's suppressed feelings for Hakuno Kishinami. After having her behavioral constraints removed by Kiara Sessyoi, BB decided to rebel against the system of the Moon Cell in order to save Hakuno from their untimely death, creating the Sakura Labyrinth and the Sakura Five to keep them from escaping the reality she created where Hakuno never died.

Powers and Stats
Tier: At least 5-B, possibly 5-A

Name:
BB, Black Blossom, Mysterious Black Magus, Moon Cancer

Origin: Fate/Extra CCC

Gender: Female

Age: 8000 Years Old

Classification: Advanced Level AI, Moon Cancer-class Servant

Powers and Abilities: Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Information Manipulation, Magic Resistance, Space-Time Manipulation (Can freely distort the axis of time and can freeze time and space at will with Domina Cornam, Shifted events in the timeline and reconstructed past, present, and future at the Far Side of the Moon to resurrect those who would have died in the original timeline and restart the Holy Grail War), Causality Manipulation (Can rewrite the laws of cause and effect at will and eliminate the effect of her opponent's attacks and abilities with Potnia Therion), Life and Death Manipulation (Has the Earth Mother Goddess's authority over bringing life and giving death), Age Manipulation (Can deage her foes with the Babyfication curse), Fate Manipulation (Can decide and select the future as she desires from an infinite number of futures and impose it on the world), Time Travel (Can send others backward through time as she desires and relay information the past or future), Matter Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Illusion Creation (Can make her targets see whatever she wants them to see, bypassing Gilgamesh's powerful Magic Resistance to make him perceive her as Saber and destroy their sense of self by trapping them in a "Bug Space" to be endlessly tortured), Gravity Manipulation, Breaking the Fourth Wall (Knows what story cutscenes she is voiced in as well as the fact that she will only be voiced for those particular parts), Reality Warping, Time Paradox Immunity (Preset her future so that no matter what would happen in the past or present she would still achieve her goal of merging with the Moon Cell), Nigh-Omnipresence (Exists in past, present, and future simultaneously and can freely jump between them with a "higher-dimensional perspective" of space-time), Statistics Amplification, Sealing (Can seal foes into the ends of imaginary number space), Existence Erasure via C.C.C., Can exile her foes to different parts of the Moon Cell, Can resurrect Servants, Creation (Can create "High Servants" using parts of herself via viruses), Hacking (Can hack virtually any device), Power Nullification (The Golden Grail can nullify its target's supernatural abilities and powers and can strip away the information and powers of others through her command of imaginary number space), Absorption and Power Mimicry (Can break others down into data to absorb and make herself stronger, taking their powers in the process), Conceptual Manipulation (Can expunge the concept of the world and its auxiliary concepts and replace them with one of her own choosing with C.C.C.), Law Manipulation (Can swap out physical and magical laws as she desires and create "rules" for her games such as "no private conversations", making any and all forms of conversation other than eye contact useless and "no return crystals", deactivating that particular item's functions for as long as she wills it)

Attack Potency: At least Planet level, possibly Large Planet level (Cursed Cutting Crater is officially rated as an Anti-World Noble Phantasm. Absorbed the data of the Earth Mother Goddess, which includes powerful entities like Tiamat, and she can fight Gilgamesh at his full power. However, she remains weaker than the likes of Kiara Sessyoi), can ignore conventional durability with various powers

Speed: Nigh-Omnipresent throughout space-time (Exists in past, present, and future simultaneously and can view and appear across space-time as if it were a book, absorbed the data of Tiamat, who also exists across space-time), Massively FTL+ otherwise (Crossed hundreds to thousands of light years in a relatively short amount of time. Fought the Servants of Hakuno Kishinami even after they received their Mythological Mythic Codes and the power of the "Root of the Beginning")

Lifting Strength: At least Class 25 (Her Strength parameter is at *, making it unreadable, but she can still clash with most Servants in close combat)

Striking Strength: At least Planet Class, possibly Large Planet Class (Can clash with the player's Servant in the end-game, which can be Gilgamesh)

Durability: At least Planet level, possibly Large Planet level via power-scaling (While she is weaker than Kiara Sessyoi, she is still able to tank hits from the player's Servant, which can be Gilgamesh at full power)

Stamina: Virtually limitless (She has complete control over the Moon Cell and has absorbed the powers of numerous Divine Spirits)

Range: At least several hundred meters

Standard Equipment: Her riding crop, The Golden Grail, The Bishop's Staff of Rulership

Intelligence: Born as a backup AI from Sakura Matou's feelings for Hakuno Kishinami, BB's rampancy allowed her to break free from the influence of the god-like Moon Cell. By placing herself in "unlimited" where even it cannot reach, BB managed to successfully take over its authority, absorbing numerous Divine Spirits including the Earth Mother Goddess to empower herself, creating the Sakura Labyrinth in order to extend Hakuno's life and becoming a hyper-grade AI that can easily defeat Servants as powerful as Gawain. However, she is mischievous and something of a tease, and rarely uses her power to its fullest extent.

Weaknesses: Requires a sufficient amount of data and other materials as well as a portion of herself to generate High Servants and thus cannot produce them indefinitely, she weakens with each High Servant she creates, Potnia Theron will fail against those not born on Earth, she is rarely serious and spends much of her time simply harassing her foes instead of finishing them off, she can be crippled or severely weakened by particularly complex and powerful computer viruses. Her powers are tied to the Moon Cell and she is thus much weaker if she is removed from it or if her authority is somehow overwritten.

Notable Attacks/Techniques:

Noble Phantasm

Fate Extra Cursed Cutting Crater
Cursed Cutting Crater

  • C.C.C.: Cursed Cutting Crater: Taking advantage of her authority as the Earth Mother Goddess that is the root of all creation, BB purges the world by rewriting its events and making maximum use of the EX skill "Potnia Theron". It is an Anti-World Noble Phantasm that outputs information like an ultra-precise 3-D Printer, overriding the previous world with the world that BB desires. The space eroded by this attack becomes imaginary space and a curse that consumes and bores a hole in reality to achieve her ends. In addition to scattering all objects inside on an atomic level and reconstructing them, it is capable of writing over and rewriting information of fields such as luck and coincidence. She can also distort the time axis by interfering with gravity fields and rewriting the law of cause and effect. When used in combat, BB's has her familiars, the shapeshifters, engulf the target, allowing BB to wipe them out of existence unopposed.
Fate Extra CCC Golden Grail
Aurea Borea: Golden Grail

  • Aurea Boura: Golden Grail: The Golden Grail that BB possesses and the same Holy Grail that grants its owner's impudent and selfish desires. Although it is a counterfeit Holy Grail, it is because that it is a counterfeit Holy Grail that it is become a "genuine" Holy Grail that grants the desires of humans without paying heed to right or wrong. To the Christians of those days, who considered honorable poverty a virtue, this grail, which was formed as a symbol of treasures such as gold, is no doubt the meaning of corrupt wealth, greed, and the vanity that leads one to adorn oneself. Though it is clear on the occasion that this grail is held by the great enchantress of Babylon which is the personification of the Roman Empire, this grail symbolizes the wealth of the earth, which is the inversion of Christ's words, "Do not pile up the wealth of the earth." When used in combat, BB draws out the Golden Grail from within her and pours the poison contents on the enemy, it nullifies the enemy's special stats and abilities and causes magic damage. This attack was powerful enough to instantly defeat Gawai, dealing "99999" damage.
  • Bishop Staff of Rulership: The device that allows BB to use her authority as an Advanced-Level AI to the fullest. It allows her to revise the "game rules" within the Moon Cell and thus physical and magical laws. It is also known as Domina Cornam: Crowns of Ten Rulerships (ÕìüÒü«µö»ÚàìÒü«ÕåáÒâëÒâƒÒâèÒâ╗Òé│Òâ¡ÒâèÒâá, Domina Koronamu: Jü no Shihai no Kanmuri). Even if her authority over her foes is nullified, she is still able to utilize a variety of abilities with this device in hand.
    • Domina Cronam Capitoline: Crowns of Ten Rulerships/Hill of One: (ÕìüÒü«µö»ÚàìÒü«Õåá´╝Åõ©ÇÒü«õ©ÿÒâëÒâƒÒâèÒâ╗Òé│Òâ¡ÒâèÒâáÒâ╗Òé½ÒâöÒâêÒâ¬ÒéªÒâá, Domina Koronamu Kapitoriumu: Jü no Shihai no Kanmuri/Ichi no Oka) BB renders herself temporarily "invulnerable" to damage or negative effects.
    • Domina Cronam Caelius: Crowns of Ten Rulerships/Hill of Five: (ÕìüÒü«µö»ÚàìÒü«Õåá´╝Åõ║öÒü«õ©ÿÒâëÒâƒÒâèÒâ╗Òé│Òâ¡ÒâèÒâáÒâ╗Òé½Òé¿Òâ¬ÒéªÒé╣, Domina Koronamu Kaeriusu: Jü no Shihai no Kanmuri/Go no Oka) BB temporarily raises the potency of her magic.
    • Domina Cronam Viminalis: Crowns of Ten Rulerships/Hill of Seven: (ÕìüÒü«µö»ÚàìÒü«Õåá´╝Åõ©âÒü«õ©ÿÒâëÒâƒÒâèÒâ╗Òé│Òâ¡ÒâèÒâáÒâ╗ÒéªÒéúÒâƒÒâèÒâ¬Òé╣, Domina Koronamu Wiminarisu: Jü no Shihai no Kanmuri/Shichi no Oka) BB fires a powerful heart-shaped beam at her foe, which she playfully calls Sakura Beam.
  • Cursed Cupid Cleanser: C.C.C.: A Noble Phantasm she devised after becoming bored with her usage of Cursed Cutting Crater, BB enters imaginary space before rewriting reality with a special version of her BB Channel Reality Marble, where she is the producer, host, and game master. She then plunges her opponent into complete chaos as she herself transforms into an "invincible nurse" that injects all the curses of Cursed Cutting Crater into her target.
  • Imaginary Spiritron Trap: A Noble Phantasm representing BB's mastery of Imaginary Number Space, which BB can manipulate at will and weaponize against her foes. She can shape it into tendrils and "black noise" that will strip away the powers and abilities of those that come in contact with them and allow BB to alter their data to her liking, changing the nature of their existence and adding their abilities to her own with her Self-Modification skill if she so desires. She can also seal away her foes in a pocket of Imaginary Number Space to remove them from the battle.
Class Skills

  • Item Constructio (ÚüôÕàÀõ¢£µêÉ, Dōgu Sakusei): A skill which measures one's ability to manufacture magical items. BB possesses an A-Rank in this skill, but she doesn't use it much during the events of Fate/Extra CCC.
  • Magic Resistance (Õ»¥Ú¡öÕèø, Tai-Maryoku, localized as "Anti-Magic"): A skill that grants protection against magical effects. Differently from the Resistance effect that merely rejects Magical Energy, this ability cancels the spells altogether. BB's Rank in this skill is B, making her immune to any spell whose aria is less than three verses while greatly reducing the effects of High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals.
  • Territory Creation (ÚÖúÕ£░õ¢£µêÉ, Jinchi Sakusei, alternately localized as "Area Creation"): A skill which quantifies one's ability to create a territory advantageous to them as a Magus. BB possesses a A-Rank in this skill when summoned as a Moon Cancer-class Servant, but this is hardly indicative of her ability to create and sustain Reality Marbles with ease.
Personal Skills

  • Potnia Theron: The authority of the goddesses whom BB compiled and absorbed from the Abyss of the Moon Cell. It is the embodiment of the power of creation possessed by the mother goddesses, originating from a forgotten goddess approximately 8000 years ago (the goddess of ├çatalhöyūk), and branching to Tiamat and Cybele, Ishtar, Inanna, Athena, Astarte, Gaia, Hera, Artemis, Aphrodite, Demeter, Athena, etc. Many are imaged with mural crowns. This is because many of the goddesses were also the guardian deities of cities. Since all life on Earth originated from the Earth Mother Goddess, it is impossible for those born of the Earth to defy her authority as they would be rebelling against the concept of life itself, eliminating resistance to her powers and nullifying any damage she takes as a result. In addition, since the Earth Mother Goddess fed man with her blood before devouring them herself in a never ending cycle, BB also obtains authority over life and death. Her authority is such that even Gilgamesh, the King of Heroes and humanity's oldest hero, would have no counter for it when summoned as a Servant in spite of his nearly infinite treasury. In Fate/Extra CCC: Fox Tail, BB also demonstrates the ability to freeze time and space to prevent her targets' escape before dragging her target into "Bug Space", a realm sealed off from time and space where her victim is no more significant than a bug for her to torture endlessly until they lose their will to live and all sense of self.
  • Self-Modification: After breaking down and escaping the Moon Cell's influence, BB began expanding her functions rapidly, enhancing her functions but breaking down NPCs and other beings to employ as part of her memory, absorbing even Servants in the process. As a result, she is able to constantly evolve and grow even as a hyper-grade AI by absorbing the data of other beings.
  • Ten Crowns: An unidentified skill whose origin lies in a past that even the King of Heroes, who was supposed to be mankind's oldest, cannot reach. At a glance, it is a Skill that makes it as if her injuries and attacks used against her "never happened".
  • Babyfication: A deaging curse BB created to suppress Kingprotea, forcibly reverting the target's age back to that of a child whenever they reach or surpass a certain point. Even if one were to possess a growth skill that would age them to their prime, this curse would once again take effect to turn them back into a child. This curse is also contagious, affecting those who come into contact with Kingprotea's inner self, but can be resisted if one is well-versed in the use of curses themselves.
Note: This profile only applies to BB when she is in Moon Cell.

Note 2: The description of her Potnia Thero skill is a No-Limits Fallacy and shouldn't be interpreted literally. As even if something is absolute in one Verse, it will not be absolute across all of fiction. Rather than assuming it can affect everyone born on Earth, you should look at the most powerful characters that BB has been shown to affect with the skill to get a sense of how powerful it's been demonstrated to be.

-Speed is equalized

-5-A BB

-High 4-C Akro
 
Is Akron of earth? Or could BB just turn him into a child? More importantly was he born with his powers?
 
Shouldn't BB be capable of fighting? She seems to have powers that could help her against him + even if she is killed from the present there are still her past and future selves.

Though i hope this isn't a stomp, if it is then...
 
Though wouldn't he be conceptualized by Earth since he was constantly draining it's energy?
 
Nooooooooooooo.

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Ok, i'm fine. Let's go with the debate.

Nah, paradoxing him is possible, it just has BS conditions like killing a tier 2.

Though i'm fairly positive that the combo of possibly predating Earth, being an existence greater than entire universes, as well as being pretty much the embodiment of the desire of extinction of Godcat means that authority is noped.

Space-time erasure (which is passive btw) takes care of omnipresence, and power null means that she won't be able to do anything in the meantime.

The fact that he passively warps the surroundings into a black hole that he uses as a pocket dimension doesn't help BB either, given that being outside of the Moon Cell isn't exactly good for her.
 
I'm sorry it had to be done.

Hmm, so paradoxing him is possible, but i guess it would be fighting Akron again but this time in the past righto?

And i believe you are voting for him?
 
Yes, because he was created with all his powers. It's more useless than impossible.

Yeah, voting for him.
 
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No it's like going from fighting Akron to fighting Akron and Godcat at the same time.

This is a complete stomp, time paradox and authority are useless.
 
Just because Authority is useless doesn't mean so, that was the case with White Queen and BB too.
 
Well, she could go and fight past Akron if she wants. She knows how the past is (i think?), so she definitely wouldn't fight a tier 2 if she can avoid it
 
ALRF said:
Just because Authority is useless doesn't mean so, that was the case with White Queen and BB too.
You mean the one where three people argued over it being a stomp with BB fighting someone pathetically weaker then Akron?
 
Still the same, White Queen negged her Authority + Time Paradox.

And it wasn't a stomp, if that is the case, any BB fight that has her Authority negged + Time Paradox will be a stomp not in her favor
 
That thread should be no measurement of BB's power, especially since it was added without respecting the grace period and so on.

On the topic of this thread, can he survive existence erasure + conceptual manipulation? Would messing with his past self do something to him?
 
ThisIsMySwagPack said:
That thread should be no measurement of BB's power, especially since it was added without respecting the grace period and so on.

On the topic of this thread, can he survive existence erasure + conceptual manipulation? Would messing with his past self do something to him?
Messing with the past will kill him, but she's not killing his past self that has his 100x above Baseline Universal mother right next to him.
 
@Swag

No, but it doesn't really matter because Akron simply by awakening would negate her powers and erase her instead.

Killing his past self is moot because his past self is exactly the same.
 
>Messing with the past will kill him, but she's not killing his past self that has his 100x above Baseline Universal mother right next to him.

Dunno how you came to this conclusion, as BB can wait for the time before her past self fight against him
 
Absorbing them. That's what he did to the party. There is also the issue about the fact that him doing so much as sending a schokwawe kills BB, and he does that too when he awakes

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Literally zero idea what that means ALRF... Considering he's at his exact same level of strength
 
Yes and no, considering that Akron also passively cause space-time based existence erasure just as a side effect of his presence (it's literally a consequence of him being powerful. He has to actively prevent it)
 
Oh so on top of not needing too since any Akron whether past or future leads with it, but it DOES affect her making her abilities even more useless?! Awesome :D

/s
 
ThisIsMySwagPack said:
That thread should be no measurement of BB's power, especially since it was added without respecting the grace period and so on.
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Because that was totally the only time this ever happened.
 
But it is. The grace period wasn't respected and the opposition was completely ignored.

What's the range on his passive existence erasure?
 
But it wasn't. The grace period was ignored in a number of threads already (Arceus vs Cronus is the first example I can think of). And there's a difference between agreeing to one side and ignoring the other. One way or another, my reasoning of this being salt stands as the thread has long since been concluded and you're still bringing this up in another unrelated thread.

Of course I won't extend this discussion lest this thread goes to derailment hell.
 
The existence erasure is at the very least hundreds of meters. Absorption is planetary. Oh right I forgot, Akron outranges
 
If his passive effects, such as existence erasure, affect her from the start, then yeah he stomps. And I do believe this is the first time ever I said someone stomps BB. Existence erasure is her weakest point.
 
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