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He slashed through the gravity and because of that, he was able to stand up, hence why he couldn't move at all before he spawned blades all over his body.
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BLACK CLOVER CRT: RAW TALENT & MAX PRESTIGE (MORE ADDITIONS 2 of 3)
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Question remains "did he nullify the gravity after he slashed to get up?"
I really don't think it's an outlier to say he couldn't stand before but suddenly did it
No it was a form of awakening and Reinforcement Magic which Jack heavily utilised might have been increased upon his "awakening"
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I mean, given that despite Dante being able to passively keep Presence of the Demon King going even while fighting (as shown when he fought Nacht while Jack was down), Nacht was still able to go Felis Mode and stand when only Equus Mode would enable him to do that. I think it's fair to say he nullified the gravity by slashing through it.
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I really can't compromise to this level
Jack doesn't cut and null
He simply slashes
If he cuts things and null them his ability would be completely different from what is being portrayed
And are u suggesting Nacht Nullified it aswell?
I think I'll quickly re-read that chapter again
And anyways I still don't see how Jack cutting it Nullified the passive and continuous effect of the gravity and it's still not inconsistent to give him that LS for Reasons I stated earlier
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Yep, that's fair for the slashes themselves, so I will remove resistance to gravity on those slashes. What about Jack?
When Dante cast his PODK, Jack could take it for some time before falling. Is it far-fetched to say that Jack got back up after getting slightly stronger? Of course not. And before he could slash, he had to get up.
I am fine to say that he nullified the gravity via "slashing through gravity", but he did so after getting up, not while he was on the ground. So I still think he should have a Class G after getting strong enough to stand up, unless you can explain/prove how he slashed through gravity on the floor then ill be cool.
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I personally think he nullified it.
It's the only explanation because Felis mode is squishy. If PODK was still active, Nacht wouldn't be able to stand in Felis mode.
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100% agree with Clover on the Jack point, it's extremely implied to us the reader that the reason why Jack is capable of standing despite being previously pressed down by Dante's Gravity Magic was because he slashed through the magic and nullified it.
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Did he slash on his feet or on the ground?
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He sprouted blades from his body which slashed the magic around him.
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Nah.
OP's too long and i don't care enough about Black Clover.
Sorry
Literally, less than half the OP is relevant. The rest is just me asking to make profiles.
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Literally, less than half the OP is relevant. The rest is just me asking to make profiles.
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Then you're giving him Power Null
Lol the entire notable characters are all gonna get power null b4 the series end
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ain't got no problem.
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No, it would only give Jack Power Null
This is not true actually, the blades were doing their work as he was down, which is how he could stand up to begin with. Constantly repeating "after getting up" won't change the fact that he shouldn't be Class G when the very narrative of this moment is that Jack was helpless until his blades slashed through and nullified Dante's gravity
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Lol u didn't get it
Meant a lot of em have been pullin power null
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I should’ve deleted that message if I knew you wouldn’t read the rest of the chat.
and you didn’t even get what I was trying to say. I said was if Jack got up first before slashing gravity, he should get Class G. @Deceived already explained that he slashed gravity on the ground. So yeah I’ve already changed the OP to incorporate power null.
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And are you fine with the rest of the OP?
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bumpy
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Everything should be good now…
just need more input
just need more input
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Everything should be fine except for Lucius' possible Sleep Manipulation. We don't know what he did, so we shouldn't give that an ability for now
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No problemo
I’ll switch it to Gravity Manipulation, Multiple selves (type 2) and Absorption (eating a devil’s heart gives him the magic of the devil)
What do you think?
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Agree FRA
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Yeah, all of these were shown by Lucius by this point. These are fine
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Alright that’s one staff
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So after all the changes, what do ya say?
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The last one is power absorption actually.
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Didn’t know there was a difference
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Alright, seeing if I have enough input.
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I think this is mostly fineWelcome, this is mostly a P&A thread with one or two stats. Make sure you go through it so we can discuss and make corrections if need be. Oh and about half of these are pages of Fodder characters I want to create to practice.
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MANA ZONE & LOVED BY MANA
The following abilities should be corrected to all those loved by mana E.g. Yuno, Licht, Patri, Vetto, Raia, Fana and the elves. Those who mastered Mana Zone (e.g. Yuno, Lumiere, Yami, Nacht, Mereoleona) should have the following.
ALL MANAZONE USERS:
- Greater Enhanced Senses and Extrasensory Perception with Mana Zone (Mana Zone increases mana detection)
- Statistics Amplification with Mana Zone (Mana Zone increases reactions as well as the speed and power of attacks and spells)
- Greater Power Nullification with Mana Zone (Mages, with the ability to nullify spells, can enhance the range and effectiveness of their nullification). T/N: Mana Zone is able to erase magic as shown with Mereleona erasing the magic that was putting her to sleep by disturbing the mana in the area, and Black Moon + Mana Zone to erase the effects of Dante's PODK.
THOSE LOVED BY MANA:
- Blessed (Loved by mana; thus gains resistance spells that take control of and block their mana)
SPIRIT USERS & SAINT STAGE
The following should be added to all apropriate spirit users: Fuegoleon, Yuno, Noelle
- Damage Boost (Spirits are capable of charging up the power).
- Limited Resistance to Power Nullification (Saint Stage power can somewhat function against magic nullifying spells as potent as Megicula's Decaying World).
MANA METHOD & MAGIC STONES
The following shoud be added to all mana method users because they were all taught the same basic skills: Noelle, Leopold, Finral, Nero, Rill, Charlote, Charmy, Mimosa. I will add higher to all magic stones and mana method users to pages below
- Statistic Amplification and Damage Boost: (Mana method is used to boost the speed and potency of physical prowess and spells. The more complex the spell array, the stronger the magic becomes)
- Platform Creation (Capable of using magic circles as platforms to move mid air)
- Probability Manipulation?/Selective Intangibility?/Forcefield Creation? (When allies obstruct an attacker from the enemy, mana method is used to ignore an ally in line of fire) someone should choose what ability this is.
- Homing (with Mana Method, basic instructions like "pursue the target" can be applied to attacks)
- Size Manipulation (with Mana Method, a mage is capable of increasing the size of spells)
The following shoud be added to all Magic stone user: Licht, Nero.
- Unholy Manipulation and Greater Statistic amplification (Magic Stones are used to draw power from the underworld, granting its user the ability to boost their magic power and spells tremendously at a price.)
ULTIMATE MAGIC
Greater than True Magic, Ultimate magic boosts physical stats and/or spells to a point capable of taking on Mid to High Ranking Devils. This is something True Magic is incapable of doing. The profiles affected innclude those who used it and know how to use it: Luck, Noelle, Fuegoleon,
- Greater Statistic Amplification and Damage boost (Embodies all the user's magic to create very powerful spells and increase physical stats)
Luck is the only one who uses it IC so be wise in debates.
HUMAN POTENTIAL: GRIMOIRES
Human potential is unlimited, therefore the following should be applied to all human mages with a grimoire:
Clover Kingdom mages:
- Limited Accelerated Development (In the midst of battle or at the brink of death, Clover Kingdom mages get stronger and exceed expectations. Sometimes they develop new spells more suited for the situation at hand. Although this does not happen very often)
The Shown Exceptions: (Yami, Yuno, Rill, the other magic knights in hearts kingdom)
- Accelerated Development (In the midst of battle or at the brink of death, Clover Kingdom mages get stronger and exceed expectations. Sometimes they develop new spells more suited for the situation at hand. Although this does not happen very often, it happens often for this mage.)
HEAT RESISTANCE
Luck's magic is Lightning magic. Vetto is capable of no selling attacks from Luck in mid air. Therefore those comparable and superior to Vetto should have this level of heat resistance. Lightning is 5 times hotter than the sun. This is only true if objects were struck mid air and NOT on the ground. If objects were struck on the ground the energy will dissipate to the ground. Hence, the body only feels a fraction of the heat for a split second as a result
- Resistance to Heat Manipulation (Vetto is capable of no selling lightning based attacks from Luck in mid air, which grants him resistance to the full heat produced by Lightning.)
THE ULTIMATE WIZARD KING
The following should be added to his profile for now.
Powers and Abilities: Possibly Sleep Manipulation (Knocked Damantio unconcious with a touch, Damnatio is not dead due to his grimoire still present.), Dimensional Travel (Went to the 7th Gate in the Underworld)
THE TITLE OF THE STRONGEST: MAGIC KNIGHT CAPTAINS
Those have been given the title of the strongest have the following abilities added:
Captain Yami Sukehiro
Powers and Abilities:
Supernatural Willpower (Regardless of the lethal damage sustained in the fight against Lucifero, Yami is capable of surpassing the physical limitations to cast one more black moon to save Asta)
Captain Jack
Powers and Abilities:
Resistance to Gravity Manipulation (Severing Magic is capable of slashing through Gravity.), Power Nullification (Severing Magic Nullifies Dante's Presence Of the Demon King)
Captain Charlotte
Powers and Abilities:
Resistance to Curse Manipulation (via blue rose briar; the stronger the curse the faster the blue rose briar weakens it), Danmaku (Capable of attacking her opponents with large Briars), Curse Manipulation (Capable of modifying curses), Absorption and Sealing (The stronger the curse, the more curse the blue roses absorbs and grows until its target is sealed),
Captain Nozel
Powers and Abilities:
Poison Manipulation (The properties of Mecury Magic is similar to Mecury, which is poisonous. When Mecury gets in the blood, it begins to fizz).
Captain Dorothy
Powers and Abilities:
Portal Creation (Capable of making an exit out of Dream World)
Stamina:
Superhuman (As a captain of a Magic Knights squad, Dorothy possesses an immense amount of Mana. Her magic amount has vastly increased after becoming an elf), Infinite magic with Glamour World (can make objects like water expand infinitely).
Intelligence:
Gifted, Likely Genius (She is an experienced magic knight, and has been shown to be knowledgeable on forbidden magic, curses and devils. Also, for her dream magic to be effective in combat she has to be knowledgeable on all things she can manifest within Glamour World, Ergo she is knowledgeable on everything ever created in Glamour world)
Captain Rill
Powers and Abilities
Statistic Amplification (Thanks to Rill's affinity for most magic types, he is capable of enhancing the spells of his allies he is compatible with; Rill can generate good mana soil and water to enhance Charlotte's briars), Invulnurability, Greater Statistic Amplification and Limited Power Bestowal (with Twillight Valhalla, Rill can boost the physicals and magic of himself and allies within range as well as keep them from dying from whatever damage they take at a price), Animal Manipulation (creates and commands mystical beasts), Flight (via a flying mythical beast)
Captain Kaiser
Needs a profile.
Captain Fuegoleon
Powers and Abilities:
Forcefeild Creation and Power Nullification (via Fire Spirit ; Its magic power is so great that it creates a forcefeild that prevents spells from being cast), Limited Air Manipulation (The hot air generated by the Spirit is enough to send opponents flying)
Captain Mereleona
Powers and Abilities:
Damage Boost (Can charge up attacks in combat)She one shot someone comparale to her (vetto), already on her profile in her AP section but damage boost isnt on the P&Asection.Supernatural Willpower (Regardless of the exhaustion and severe injuries sustained, she had a strong fighting spirit that enabled her to press on. Eventually she passed out on her feet and still had unwavering fighting spirit)
THE MAGIC KNIGHTS
The following should be added to the magic knights. Attack Potency, Durability, Range, etc. Most of them need pages which I will painstakenly create and add here for everyone to see.
THE BLACK BULLS
Platform Creation and Flight (Charmy is capable of creating a platform made of cotton which she uses for transportation) Animal Manipulation, Transformation (She is capable of transforming her sheep to a Wolf), Life Manipulation (breathes life into the sheeps and wolf with her magic)
- Charmy
Danmaku (his attack spells are typically barrages of light rays)
- Gauche
Possible Supernatural Willpower (Drawing magic circles on the body is likenned to being constantly attacked by the users own magic)
- Zora
Healing (Gordon is capable of modfying curses to heal the cursed)
- Gordon
Looks Good
- Luck
Possible Preparation
- Magna
Deconstruction (Grey disintegrates the sword embedded in Gauche's torso), Regeneration (Mid Low, likely far greater; Grey is capable of closing up wounds),
- Grey
Supernatural Luck (When Vanessa's magic is nearly gone, Rouge makes it so that the crisis is in favor of Vanessa by bringing someone best suited to take on the threat), Life Manipulation (Rouge is a cat born from)
- Vanessa
Looks good rn
- Noelle
Looks good rn
- Secre
Looks Good rn
- Asta
Supernatural Willpower (Regardless of the lethal damage sustained in the fight against Lucifero, Yami is capable of surpassing the physical limitations to cast one more black moon to save Asta)
- Nacht
THE GOLDEN DAWN
Telekenisis (Controls the movements of his stars), Accelerated Development (The stronger Yuno becomes in battle, the more stars are created for his use), Statistic Amplification and Damage Boost (Yuno can charge up Spirit of Euros for three muinites with enough speed and power to bypass Zenon's defenses), Purification and Holy Manipulation via Saint Stage.
- Yuno
Supernatural Willpower (Regardless of the odds and severe injuries sustained, Langris always got back up, never gave up and continued to fight till he was incapacitated)
- Langris
Needs a page (low priority)
- David
Regeneration linked to heaing magic instead of only healing
- Mimosa
Needs a page (low priority)
- Alecdora
Needs a page (mid priority)
- Letoille
Needs a page (high priority)
- Sylph
THE SILVER EAGLES
Needs a page ( high priority)
- Acier
Needs a page (low priority)
- Rob
Needs a page (low priority)
- Curtis
Needs a page (low priority)
- Nebra
Needs a page (low priority)
- Nils
Needs a page ( high priority)
- Solid
Needs a page (low priority)
- Simon
Needs a page (low priority)
- Kyle
THE BLUE ROSES
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- Puli
Needs a page ( high priority)
- Sol
Needs a page (low priority)
- Borja
Needs a page (low priority)
- Wainsley
Needs a page (low priority)
- Risacca
Needs a page (low priority)
- Selena
Needs a page (low priority)
- Galgaria
THE CRIMSON LION
Needs a page (mid priority)
- Randall
Needs a page ( high priority)
- Leopold
Needs a page (low priority)
- Ben
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- Gareth
Needs a page (low priority)
- Rokken
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- Ruben
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- Forte
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- Theresa
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- Goht
THE GREEN MANTIS
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- En
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- Willie
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- Nix
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- Sekke
THE CORAL PEACOCK
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- Kirsch
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- Rick
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- Dmitri
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- Medio
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- Roland
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- Brad
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- Protobe
THE PURPLE ORCAS
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- Gueldre
Needs a page (mid priority)
- Xerx
Needs a page (mid priority)
- Adrian
Needs a page (low priority)
- Gaston
Needs a page (low priority)
- Winston
Needs a page (mid priority)
- Digit
THE AQUA DEER
Needs a page (low priority)
- Walter
Needs a page (low priority)
- Fragil
Needs a page (low priority)
- Cesc
Needs a page (low priority)
- Francis
Needs a page (low priority)
- Eric
Needs a page (mid priority)
- Morgen
might not need a page.
- Marx
Needs a page (low priority)
- Cob
HEART KINGDOM SPIRIT GUARDIAN / DIAMOND KINGDOM SHINNING GENERAL / SPADE KINGDOM COMMANDER
We do not have profiles for any character here:
I will take care of these and link them here over time for everyone to see. Right after I add the other pages.
- Gadja
- Ptrof
- Floga
- Smurik
- Sarado
- Allen
- Mars
- Lardos
- Ragus
- Yagos
- Moris
Note: Those who already have some of these additions on their profiles need more justifications or corrections added to it rather than just dismissing it all together. With the approval of 2 staff members or with enough of normies like me I will begin adding changes. Any new info added will be addressed in newer posts then added to OP.
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What ability should I give this?
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Forcefield creation , we clearly see an barrier made of runes behind one of the spade citizens
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yeah, the entire devil is destroyed even though it’s also directly in front of the “Force Feild”. That threw me off. Counted.
2 votes for FF
1 vote for selective Intan
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Looks okay to me.
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