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ShadowWarrior1999 said:
But if your opponent opens with mindhax, doesn't matter if you're better at everything else if you don't resist it.
Also remember Demigra has Type 4 immortality.
And they can one shot the other, also Demigra has the advantage in HAX if I get it right from the profile.

Also, also, Demigra can resurrect at will so Bill one-shoting isn't really helping here.
 
Bill has better hax besides mindhax though such as Law, Causality, and Physics (don't give me that shit about it being non-combat applicable I've yet to see any proof about that and Bill literally breaks a **** ton of natural laws once he enters the 3-D world), and space, time, biological and matter manipulation.

I'm not voting though
 
He doesn't like Lavos, Kirby's is via a shitty heart, and Mewtwo generally doesn't start with mindhax
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
Bill has better hax besides mindhax though such as Law, Causality, and Physics (don't give me that shit about it being non-combat applicable I've yet to see any proof about that and Bill literally breaks a **** ton of natural laws once he enters the 3-D world), and space, time,
I don't remember those, could you show me some scans or video about him using those to kill/defeat/incap somebody?
 
I'm just saying "Demigra is more haxxed" is wrong

I really don't have the motivation to dig up his PIS filled scans
 
Hey, stop with the jabs at him, everyone hates when their fav character loses due to some stupid ability or something like that.
 
Wall of text =/= more haxed, especially when half his abilities are never even shown or ineffective, like the madness bubbles.
 
@Tony Causality manipulation is one of his Reddit abilities. Law manipulation is Bill removing the laws of the multiverse. Physics manipulation, this one is also from Reddit I think.
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
@Edwardtruong2006 You need to prove that those are combat applicable.
This reminds me of something so I'm gonna re-phrase what Azzy said on discord a while back.

Bill gets treated a lot worse than other characters on this site, this is a good example of that double standard. There are a lot of creator deities/generally powerful character who don't get asked to prove "if their hax works on 4-Ds" or "do you have proof that his powers are combat applicable". Bill gets this status to be treated so poorly because it's a meme he loses alot. I don't know why Bill specifically gets chosen out of all the other meme losers but it's getting really grating at this point.
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
This reminds me of something so I'm gonna re-phrase what Azzy said on discord a while back.

Bill gets treated a lot worse than other characters on this site, this is a good example of that double standard. There are a lot of creator deities/generally powerful character who don't get asked to prove "if their hax works on 4-Ds" or "do you have proof that his powers are combat applicable". Bill gets this status to be treated so poorly because it's a meme he loses alot. I don't know why Bill specifically gets chosen out of all the other meme losers but it's getting really grating at this point.
The same thing happens with DBS AFAIK but nobody is making a fuss about it. Don't @me on that one.
 
The thing is I personally haven't seen anyone saying "can you prove DBS's hax is combat applicable" and I'm 90% sure the reason why is that they don't have much hax to begin with.

aka it's not a good comparison
 
ShadowWarrior1999 said:
@Ed I do remember Azzy himself saying that hax working on 4Ds has to be proven.
Yeah but Azzy has also said that Bill gets treated alot worse than other characters who are similar

Hopefully he won't mind me quoting him.

"NGL, Bill gets treated worse than a lot of characters with equally as many (if not more) "contradictions and low showings". Not gonna name names or pages because that's not how I do things, but I do think it's kinda hilarious seeing stuff like "this dude's hax can't affect 4-D shit even in his 2-A key" and consistently applying it only to this single character out of everyone on the entire site."
 
TheArsenal1212 said:
It literally could go either way. Demigra mindhaxes or Bill snaps and transmutates him into a carpet rug
Also how come Bill's loss against Asriel was added almost instantly but his win against Dimentio still hasn't been added?
Ask SD to add it
 
@Edwardtroung2006 Could just be the fact that Bill is a popular character so it's more likely for these kinds of issues to pop up in threads involving him.
 
ItsEliminationTime said:
Anyways, does Bill have a wincon here?
None that's clearly laid out anyways.

Bill splatters Demigra > Demigra resurrects

Bill doesn't splatter Demigra/Demigra comes back > Demigra lolmindhaxes
 
Type 4 acausaliry doesn't block AP.

Anyways thought based AP is better here than thought based mind control. Unless the character has feats of doing so we don't assume they can mantain control while they're dead. As such, both go off at the same time but due to Demigra dying the mind control wouldn't stick.
 
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