Bill Cipher vs Tai Shui

[Plisteit]

Who won? and why?

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Bill Cipher mind control's Tai Shui and win.

 

[Schnee_One]

Tai Shui stands there and Bill Dies

And also completely laughs at Bill's mindhax due to being a higher dimensional being.

This is a stomp

Edit: And a necro

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Tai Shui stands there and Bill Dies
And also completely laughs at Bill's mindhax due to being a higher dimensional being.

This is a stomp

Edit: And a necro

Bill's haxes are still 3-D right?

 

[Elizhaa]

@Yeahboiii123 Bill's haxes are not 3-D, but 4-D as he is 4-D for this fight. That's an old argument.

Bill's haxes are "only" 3-D when he is 2-D at Tier 11 since he can afftect a 3-D world.

 

[Elizhaa]

Also, Bill's profile has been updated. Bill's new hax include Causality, Physics, Law, and Conceptual Manipulation which can bypassed Tai Shui's defense of being Non-Corporeal and having Low-godly regen.

I am inclined to say that Bill's hax stomp.

 

[Lightbuster30]

And Tai Shui isn't? Higher AP doesn't save you from causality or law hax at a 4d scale (was going to perform a combination of these on the multiverse, removing it's laws, physics, and rules of cause and effect) and it doesn't bypass a fellow low godly.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

I thought Tai Shui is above baseline. Bill haxstomp FRA then.

 

[Elizhaa]

@Yeahboiii123,

My argument wasn't above being baseline, it was about Hax.

You don't need to be above baseline to hax stomps, you need to be in the same dimension as hax bypasses durability and negate certain abilities.

In most cases, hax will always apply unless a character has resistance to the hax in its profile, or a character's dimension is above another's dimension such as an example a tier 3 character's hax usually can never affect a tier 5 unless with Higher Dimensional Manipulation .

The Tiering System provide more examples


So, my point is that Bill's haxes will work as Tai Shui got no resistance to them. Although I would this fight to be fair, it really looks like a hax Stomp Thread .

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

OK, I get it. You don't need to tell me that. I'm not dumb.

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

@Nedge1000 Also don't mind what I said before. I was probably distracted and said stupid stuffs.

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Bill Cipher FRA

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Wait, speed isn't equal (Tai is Omnipresent)...Does it change the results?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

Wait, speed isn't equal (Tai is Omnipresent), does it change the results?

Nope

 

[TheQuirkyBoy]

Oh, ok.

 

[Elizhaa]

@Yeahboiii123 No problem

 

[Elizhaa]

Guys, it is this fight a Stomp Thread based on the definition because I really would it to be added?

 

[TheArsenal1212]

Bill FRA

I think he outhaxes the guy but not necessarily a stomp @Nedge1000

 

[Elizhaa]

Bill FRA
I think he outhaxes the guy but not necessarily a stomp @Nedge1000

It because TaiShui looks like he can't in any way at all which would clarify as a stomp

 

[Eficiente]

@Yeahboiii123 Bill's haxes are not 3-D, but 4-D as he is 4-D for this fight. That's an old argument.

Bill's haxes are "only" 3-D when he is 2-D at Tier 11 since he can afftect a 3-D world.

This is completely wrong.

 

[TheArsenal1212]

@Nedge1000 but a stomp would imply Bill easily wins. He does have to put effort into this because Tai actually has higher AP. Bill's haxes are much better but speed isn't equal either so I don't think it's a stomp, just a comfortable win for Bill with some effort

 

[Eficiente]

>Bill's haxes are much better

Not the case given that most of them will not do anything.