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Big Granolah crt

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So with chapter 72 we got some new feats for Granolah here I will be discussing those so they can be added to his profile

So let's start the crt then

Possible danmaku Feat
Granolah needs stealth mastery for these Feats
Pressure points for these Feat
Information analysis for these Feats
Also this possible EE Feat Vegeta also compared it to hakai so it should be fine to be added as EE. on a second Goku should also have EE for being able to use hakaia
Also adding analytical prediction for some of the above feats

Now it's time to discuss the controversial feat I have seen some people say it may be an infinite speed Feat well it's not why you may ask because of two reasons
Reason number 1 is that Granolah refers to what he did as an technique and Goku also compares it to instant transmission
Reason number 2 is no one in the Verse has shown anything close to infinite speed and we know for sure that Granolah is below Gods and Angel
In other words this is just a teleportation feat
 
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It seems someone already added the pressure points anyways take a look at the other stuff
 
Agree with everything except infinite speed we can just chalk it up to him having teleportation
 
He should also receive an intelligence upgrade for being able to fool both Goku and vegeta with his stealth mastery and being capable of using things such as pressure points and information analysis
 
JirensMom said:
Agree with everything except infinite speed we can just chalk it up to him having teleportation
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I actually made an argument against the infinite speed anyway I edited it so it will appear more clear I guess
 
Agree with everything, for the infinite speed I think its still too early to judge that especially when nothing in the series comes close to that level, I think we should wait for more information about it honestly.

Btw the first argument doesnt seem valid, even UI was stated to be a technique but we scales it to speed, Goku probably compares it to IT because he was so fast for him that it seemed that way for Goku.
but yeah as I said before
 
YukaSama4 said:
Agree with everything, for the infinite speed I think its still too early to judge that especially when nothing in the series comes close to that level, I think we should wait for more information about it honestly.

Btw the first argument doesnt seem valid, even UI was stated to be a technique but we scales it to speed, Goku probably compares it to IT because he was so fast for him that it seemed that way for Goku.
but yeah as I said before
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Yes you are right but just to be safe we should give him just teleportation for now also him receiving infinite speed will automatically give angels and possibly Goku,Vegeta and Gods of destruction infinite speed too which I completely disagree with
 
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Rez said:
I actually made an argument against the infinite speed anyway I edited it so it will appear more clear I gu
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ah you should add teleportation to the list then since he most likely has it
Edit: its already added whoops
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Rez said:
if he is given infinte speed Goku will also scale to him
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I mean, thats SSG Goku who doesnt have any anti feats afaik, I would not be surprised if Goku in base rn is faster than ToP UI Goku honestly. But again I agree that we should not accept infinite speed just because of that, I think waiting for more evidence context is better
 
Yeah goku and vegeta's base forms are clearly stronger now

Dende even said in the moro arc Goku has reached God power in his knocked out base form. Don't know why their profiles assume they stay at the same strength level in base though super
 
Everything is fine except Stealth Mastery.
He was just too fast for them, I don't know if the wiki gives stealth for suppresing one's power.

You can also add Analytical Prediction.
 
Animegod12345 said:
Honestly I don’t think that was hakai all vegeta said is it was similar if it was hakai he would have just said it.
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Vegeta stating it was similar to hakai is the reason for possible EE also right after that Goku asked "does that mean he can use our techniques?"
 
Slacjow said:
Everything is fine except Stealth Mastery.
He was just too fast for them, I don't know if the wiki gives stealth for suppresing one's power.

You can also add Analytical Prediction.
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Added analytical prediction and it should count as stealth mastery as he completely erased his presence and also before Goku and vegeta reached that place they were being hit with a huge amount of ki blast they used that to identify his location and granolah used that to his advantage he lured them there he made it seem like he was firing from their
 
Yeah I think it's obvious that Granolah has possibly quicker, definitely thought based teleportation which requires no Ki signatures. Goku obviously wasn't saying that Granolah is literally faster than IT, he's saying that Granolah's method or teleporting is better. Either way, it's still just teleportation.

Also, while obviously just pressure point strikes is fine, I feel like there should be something that notes just how powerful this is. I mean, he can straight up incapacitate Goku for an extended period of time just by landing a single accurate strike. Maybe in his notable attacks section?
 
I agree with everything in the first part, but Granolah already has Stealth Mastery (worded as skilled in stealth because he isn't a master) because he infiltrated a laboratory to steal a Dragon Ball.

He also needs to have Martial Arts added, as he didn't show ability with them before this chapter.

The first scan of information analysis is more like enhanced senses, which he already had but now got better.

About teleportation, I've argued enough in the other thread for it not being infinite speed.

Just noticed, I also disagree with Goku having EE, his version of the Hakai isn't the same that erases stuff from existence.
 
Ok fine then let's drop danmaku and stealth master and about the EE part if some anti feat comes up in future we can remove it because right now their isn't one and Toyotaro's portrayal of hakai has been very inconsistent
 
SamanPatou said:
The first scan of information analysis is more like enhanced senses, which he already had but now got better.
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He was also able to figure out Goku's body was dodging on it's own before his mind could even process the attack
 
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Just noticed, I also disagree with Goku having EE, his version of the Hakai isn't the same that erases stuff from existence.
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that's just Toyotaro's portrayal of hakai being just bad literally all of the hakai before this arc were done in the same manner
 
Vietthai96 said:
And......When Beerus face again Fused Zamasu to verify that claim???
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The wiki accepts that statement as valid and thus gives zamasu mid godly Regan if you wanna argue about that then make a crt for zamasu's mid godly removal
 
Vietthai96 said:
Beerus never fight Fused Zamasu, so he will not know the full extent of Zamasu immortality, if anything it is more like Beerus Hakai can't pass Low Godly
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Beerus statement is that he cant kill Immortals, Beerus has live millions of years, he probably found some immortal random people, and that is also a reason that Zamasu didnt died by Goku hakai
 
Bernkastelll said:
Beerus statement is that he cant kill Immortals, Beerus has live millions of years, he probably found some immortal random people, and that is also a reason that Zamasu didnt died by Goku hakai
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That is a big assumption based on Beerus age, and Goku can't even use Hakai properly, there are no reason to assume that he could use Hakai at the same level as Beerus. Currently busy i will properly reply later
 
Vietthai96 said:
That is a big assumption based on Beerus age, and Goku can't even use Hakai properly, there are no reason to assume that he could use Hakai at the same level as Beerus. Currently busy i will properly reply later
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Hakai at the same level doesnt matter, hakai is hakai, erase soul and body, doesnt matter if goku hakai is strong as beerus hakai, and my ''assumption'' is due occam razzor that beerus already should have meet a immortal before, because he stated that hakai cannot kill immortals
 
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