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Big change Vulcan Profile Stats and Powers (Marvel)

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Vulca needs some work. Like a lot of work.

First off, let's see who he'd really scale to. As far as I can tell, Vulcan has had three major fights:

Gladiator: See fight here. Against the Praetor of the Imperial Guard, Vulcan at best, knocks Gladiator back but doesn't seem to do any real damage. Gladiator ultimately defeats him but Gladiator is under orders to bring Vulcan back alive. It wouldn't be much of a stretch to say that Gladiator was holding back. Hence, I don't consider this to be a good indication of Vulcan's level of power.

Adam Warlock (Post Annihilation): See fight here. Whereas with Gladiator, Vulcan is clearly outmatched, he dominates here. However, Vulcan isn't winning due to pure power but because he drained Adam of the vast majority of his power. Adam is clearly weaker than he normally is as evidenced by his gaunt frame. While I would treat this fight as a testament to the potency of Vulcan's Energy Absorbtion, it's still not the best indicator of his overall performance. Warlock is not working at 100% and as such, I'm hesitant to scale him to this. It also doesn't help that Vulcan caught Warlock by surprise at first.

Black Bolt: See fight here. Now this is a fight! BB and Vulcan trade blows with Vulcan even giving BB a decent beatdown. However, once BB unleashes his voice, he reduces Vulcan to a charred husk of a mutant. Yet, Vulcan survives and continues fighting until the bomb that BB was transporting goes off.

Conclusion: It would seem to me that Vulcan scales best to Black Bolt. His other fights have factors in them that don't me full confidence in scaling him to them.

Next up is Vulcan's speed. I bring this up in particular because we have him scaling to Thor. That makes no sense. The only way that works is because Vulcan fought Gladiator, who not only has his own feats but consistently scales to Thor. However, we already know that Gladiator is holding back during their fight and Vulcan has never fought with Thor. Based on this and his fight with Black Bolt, I think we can safely say that he should has similiar Combat speed and reactions.

Also, Vulcan has a travel speed feat. Seen here Vulcan flies from Earth in the Milky Galaxy to Shi'ar space in the Shi'ar Galaxy in over a week.

Conclusion: Vulcan should have likely Massively Hypersonic+ combat speed with at least FTL travel speed. Or, Vulcan actually scales to Gladiator in terms of speed and Black Bolt need his speed updated??

Next up is Vulcan's durability. He took physical attacks from and was harmed by Black Bolt. That would qualify him for 5-A in my books. In addition, he took an enraged scream from Black Bolt's voice and surived though it utterly mutilated him. That would potentially make him 4-B.

Conclusion: At least 5-A durability.

As far as anything else, Vulcan has shown some other feats:

Healing: Heals D'Ken's neural pathways and brings him out of a coma.

Minor Resistance to Telepathy: Rachel found it hard to get a lock on him.

Minor Resistance to Intangibility: Harms Shadowcat when she phases through him.

Biological Manipulation: Turns off the current to Rachel's brai .

Attack Reflection: Redirects Cyclops' blast back at him.

Forcefield Creation: Makes a shield to block Polaris' attack.

Limited Self-Sustenance: Type 1 & 2. As long as he has energy, he seem to be able to just use it to sustain himself. I consider Type 3 but that could just be a stamina feat reakky.

Finally, I'd like to just tweak the Power and Abilities section. The way it is written could be better. Plus, Vulcan doesn't actually have some of the powers listed there.
 
The OP makes sense to me.

Especially of note is that (as I recall) Gladiator's own level of power fluctuates depending on how much courage he has at any given point, so unless the scenario made clear that he was determined to beat the everloving shit out of his opponent, scaling to Gladiator's highest showings based on one encounter is already dubious as it is.
 
  • I agree tbat scaling to Gladiator is a large issue. Not only for the reasons you mentioned but because his power canonically varies
  • Him scaling to Black Bolt physically makes sense to me, but I don't think we should scale him to BB's voice. If he has a 4-B rating it should only be for energy absorption
  • Traveling between Galaxies would be MFTL+ travel speed and not just FTL to my understanding.
 
Travelling intergalactic distances within a week would be MFTL+
 
Okay. It seems like Vulcan should scale from Black Bolt physical statistics then, although not from his voice.

We will need a footnote explanation regarding why he does not scale to 4-B though.
 
Maybe something like: "Vulcan's battles with Gladiator and Adam Warlock are ignored for the profile's statistics. In the first case Gladiator was completely unharmed by Vulcan's attacks and then defeated him in two punches after being ordered to take him alive. In the second case, Adam was in a weakened state for the majority of their fight. Scaling him to Black Bolt's shout is also ignored, as the attack reduced him to a near-death state and he only survived by using his powers to repair his body."
 
That seems fine, although it should also be mentioned that since Black Bolt's scream nearly killed him, that doesn't count either.
 
Does my edit work? Trying to figure out how to add the Black Bolt stuff without making it to wordy.
 
I suppose that should work, yes.
 
So is somebody willing to edit the profile?
 
I can get on a computer in a couple hours. If it isn't done by then I'll do it.
 
Okay. Thank you. Do you need the page unlocked?
 
I edited the statistics but not the power and abilities section. I'll let the OP handle that as he has a better grasp on what's being added and removed.
 
Hey all. I'm back. Sorry for the long absense but with Mother's Day literally tomorrow, work has had me tied up.

I'm in the process of making the edits to Vulcan's powers but two things have come up:

1. I know I said Vulcan had resistance to Intagibility but the more I look over the scene, I start change my opinion a tad. See, while it's true that Vulcan shocked Shadowcat when she phased through him, later Plutonia phased through him without issue. The difference between the two occurences is that when Shadowcat phased through Vulcan, he had energy surging through his body while with Plutonia, he did not. As such, instead of a resistance, I move that Vulcan's energy and energy based attacks have Non-Physical Interaction.

2. Is everyone fine if I get rid of those abililities listed in the Notable A/T section? Those are just copied straight from Marvel Database's profile on Vulcan...
 
I'm fine with keeping them or removing them. They're not super big. Might want to keep to more esoteric stuff though.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
I'm fine with keeping them or removing them. They're not super big. Might want to keep to more esoteric stuff though.
...I think you're right. The energy manipulation and flight part can go. Those don't really need explanations. Maybe the variable energy blasts. Everything else though does give insight into how he uses his powers.

EDIT: @Everyone Also, what about the Non-Physical Interaction instead of resistance to Telepathy.
 
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