Big Berserk Upgrades: Great Roar of the Astral World

[ElJoaki5]

This calc got accepted

Who Scales?
- Ganishka and Skull Knight with Sword of Actuation (Attack Potency only, not dura): This should be pretty clear since the power of these two is what actually causes this. (Femto merely changes the direction of the attack)

- The Godhand and the Idea of Evil (Attack Potency only, not dura): It is already listed in Griffith's profile that he is superior to Skull Knight and he is stated to be unrivaled in the physical world.

 

[Arkenis]

I've commented on the calc, you should do their durability as well.

 

[ElJoaki5]

I've commented on the calc, you should do their durability as well.

You can’t get dura from this, this is no explosion. And you should discuss here

 

[Arkenis]

You can’t get dura from this, this is no explosion. And you should discuss here

You can get dura from a shockwave. Here https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U..._Transformation?commentId=4400000000003522928

 

[ElJoaki5]

You can get dura from a shockwave.

This isn’t a shockwave, read the calc please

 

[Arkenis]

This isn’t a shockwave, read the calc please

I have, the spirit world's energy being released pushed the clouds away, this can be treated as a shockwave and you can get dura from it.

 

[ElJoaki5]

I have, the spirit world's energy being released pushed the clouds away, this can be treated as a shockwave and you can get dura from it.

That’s what the calc was like before evaluation, I even used the same calc you linked as reference. Rusty rejected it.

 

[Arkenis]

That’s what the calc was like before evaluation, I even used the same calc you linked as reference. Rusty rejected it.

He never rejected it, he said "Are you certain this is a shockwave? Looking up the chapter it appears more like a flash of light? Not fully sure what it is, but can you provide proof it's a pressure wave?". He offered a different way of calcing the feat. And he didn't outright accept this calc either, he said "Math here looks fine to me. Can't give any opinions about anything that requires knowledge of the series."

I said on the calc, its the spirit world's energy that was released. There's no reason this can't be treated as a shockwave. And unless this is wholly wrong, this KNY calc does the method for getting durability from such a feat.

I'm pretty sure this massive light we see isn't from the Skull Knight, it's from the opening that Skull Knight made which allowed the Spirit World's energy to expand across the world which in turn made all the mythical beings come out into the world. That's why Femto says he's opened the "door". What should be calced here is Femto and SK's durability from withstanding that shockwave that blew away the clouds.

 

[ElJoaki5]

He never rejected it, he said "Are you certain this is a shockwave? Looking up the chapter it appears more like a flash of light? Not fully sure what it is, but can you provide proof it's a pressure wave?". He offered a different way of calcing the feat. And he didn't outright accept this calc either, he said "Math here looks fine to me. Can't give any opinions about anything that requires knowledge of the series."

I said on the calc, its the spirit world's energy that was released. There's no reason this can't be treated as a shockwave. And unless this is wholly wrong, this KNY calc does the method for getting durability from such a feat.

Ok I added dura, it’s a massive outlier since it’s by Zodd so it’s irrelevant

 

[Arkenis]

Ok I added dura, it’s a massive outlier since it’s by Zodd so it’s irrelevant

What? Griffith and Sk are right there too lmao. Forget Zodd

 

[ElJoaki5]

What? Griffith and Sk are right there too lmao. Forget Zodd

Zodd is the only one which whereabouts are known. Sk and Griffith probably left by now.

 

[Arkenis]

Zodd is the only one which whereabouts are known. Sk and Griffith probably left by now.

Oh. And why is it an outlier for Zodd? I remember him being amped by Femto. Still can scale Femto and the Godhand either way.

 

[ElJoaki5]

Oh. And why is it an outlier for Zodd? I remember him being amped by Femto. Still can scale Femto and the Godhand either way.

Because it’s small country level, Zodd is multi-city block rn. (4123711340 Times difference)

 

[Arkenis]

Because it’s small country level, Zodd is multi-city block rn. (4123711340 Times difference)

That isn't how outliers work. Zodd can fight SK, the guy whose been fighting against the Godhand for centuries, and again I could've sworn Femto made Zodd stronger. Whether Zodd is consistent or not, The Godhand and SK should scale above him.

And how are you applying this to ap when this isn't anyone's feat, its the result of opening a door to the spirit world that allowed the energy to come out, it's got zero to do with ap from SK or Ganishka.

 

[Nierre]

wow

 

[Damage3245]

I don't believe this is Attack Potency for either character; not directly. It's essentially a giant environmental effect brought about by very specific condtions.

 

[ElJoaki5]

I don't believe this is Attack Potency for either character; not directly. It's essentially a giant environmental effect brought about by very specific condtions.

Would the total yield from it be worth adding to the verse page at least? Also what do you think about getting durability from it?

 

[Arkenis]

The Idea of Evil would. Doesn't the spirit world come from him as does the human world?

 

[Damage3245]

Would the total yield from it be worth adding to the verse page at least? Also what do you think about getting durability from it?

I don't think so, and the durability would be an outlier if used for Zodd and nobody else really benefits from it. Skull Knight warped away, and Femto was riding Zodd.