Berserk tiering issues

[UchihaSlayer96]

That's probably for his "human" form

No it says his human form is 220 cm, while Apostle Zodd is 350 cm.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Well, if Apostle Zodd was actually just 3.5 meters then that would mean all characters are really really small. Zodd on the shot I sent seems at very least 3 times larger than Guts.

Another shot showing how big Zodd is, is this I think

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

I know it seems way off, but truth is that Zodd's size is incredibly inconsistent over the chapters.

 

[SpookyShadow]

We can also compare his height to Wyald's and we have a clear shot of how much larger than Guts he is

@OppaiSenpai5

Probably just change of Miura's artstyle led to this, I think there are more scans of him being this large than just him being a small lion-goat

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

There's also that shot where he's carrying Charlotte's bed, and when Griffith is riding him in general.....Yeah, 3.5 meters is really off.

 

[SpookyShadow]

I would also forget Zodd's actual size if I was last drawing him over 10 years ago, so I think we can use the bigger size if calc will be made

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

Then we should probably use pics of him from chapters close to the feats being calced so that it's not inconsistent.

I remember when we first saw Grunbeld, he looked like a 10 m giant in his human form.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Fair but he still seems really damn large.

The stone also seems to be thick and Zodd fragmented it, so it can lead to impressive results

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

I mean this might be the same case with the Orks from Warhammer 40k

They're listed as only 6' but because they're hunched over when they're standing straight they're over 7'5+

If Zodd's apostle height when standing hunched is 350 cm then if he is standing straight it's damn near certain he is going to reach 5 meters

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

Also if anyone wants to do any calculation with Grunbeld there is this shot where the Giant Apostles are standing together

edit: also this

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

So why has nobody ever talked about the thunderstorm like clouds that Shiva Ganishka creates where ever he walks?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Mitch calced this earlier

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

oof then i kinda forgot

 

[SpookyShadow]

So if it gets accepted, I think Berserk god tiers will be 7-A, if the feat of creating Falconia isn't anything better. Or higher with the cloud dispersion feat

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I think assuming the high end of the calc is accepted, then Shiva Ganishka will be 7-A+, and the God Hand will probably be "At least 7-A+" (due to being much superior to any of their Apostles).

 

[Hellbeast]

For reference this is how large Zodd is. Guts in near the middle and he's around 2 meters tall, but I don't remember his exact height. Could be a pretty good feat, around 8-C or 8-B.

I think the guide says 6:8 but idk if that's good

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

You mean Guts' height?

 

[Hellbeast]

Yep

Mentioned it because you rpobably have shots of Guts next to some of these big boi feats

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

He's 204 cm.

 

[Hellbeast]

Yeh that's what I mentioned

Apparently the guide isn't the most ocnsistent tho so idk if we can use that

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Wasn't Guts' KE with the Dragon Slayer calced at 8-B, or am I misremembering?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Yeah it was, though I don't know how we use KE

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It was calc stacking though

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

Figures.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

F

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

So our best hope for these "Struggler tier" characters is Zodd's feat?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Basically yes, but I think it will be around 8-C at least

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Not bad at all.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Still much better than 8-B with no good matches other than niche light novel smurfs with tons of hax

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

True XD.

 

[ThisThingisReallyBroken]

Berserk getting downgraded to 8-C

**** yes

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I myself would've preferred 8-A, but 8-C is great too.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

8-B does look super iffy; and I heard something about 8-A a long time ago. But no source iirc.

 

[SpookyShadow]

Mozgus' Fire Breath that is on Guts' profile was originally 8-A but got recalced to baseline 8-B

 

[OppaiSenpai5]

I don't think we should be scaling Guts' physical strength to a fire attack either way.

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

i mean i even spoke to spooky about this

Guts is already resistant to Fire Damage why would he scale to it?

 

[SpookyShadow]

Well, Guts didn't really tank it so.

I hope Zodd's feat gets calced ASAP so we will see the results, any calc member who can volunteer?

 

[AngeronTheSkyHighAnger]

Has anyone contacted any calc member about the feat?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Well, he kinda sorta did, or at least that's what it looks like to me. Unless you guys are talking about a different attack.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Has anyone contacted any calc member about the feat?

I tried contacting Damage, but I think he's too busy with other CRTs.