Ben 10 vs Diavolo

[JustANormalLemon]

I was being hyperbolic, 12 isn't 1, that's a 8.3% chance with further context and corroboration. Not how that works, he's willing to kill, it's not his first go to thing dude, that isn't how SBA works, it just means that if a character otherwise wouldn't kill, like Batman, they would kill if they had to. Batman, for example, would still try his usual methods and try not to kill first, before moving on to trying to kill. They don't start out of the gate trying to murder the foe in cold blood.

ok, It's in character for hin to beecome a alien just to intimidade the oponent in submission, and humungossaur is the best pick to immobilize and intimidate

 

[Chariot190]

I literally don't believe you, that reads like actual grasping, I'm just gonna wait for Green.

 

[Greenshifter]

Can't Diavolo just like, incap instead?

Perhaps, how much time does Ben have to strategize here (with all that time getting erased and what not)? Cause if he knows he’s dying all the time he’ll switch to a regenner who Diavolo can’t KO or kill nor Incap I presume.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

ben has master control?

..

 

[Chariot190]

Perhaps, how much time does Ben have to strategize here (with all that time getting erased and what not)? Cause if he knows he’s dying all the time he’ll switch to a regenner who Diavolo can’t KO or kill nor Incap I presume.

None, maybe a split second. Diavolo is always using Epitaph so he knows what would happen 90% of the time, and he can use Epitapth even while time is deleted to to see what what happen after time resumes or if he'd pull off his attacks or not.

Diavolo also leads with time skip immediately, as he doesn't want to be seen, he's absolutely paranoid and completely obsessive about never being seen or found out who he is, that's his whole schtick, why he wants to kill his own daughter even. If someone so much as glances at him, he'll time skip.

Diavolo is the JoJo character most likely to use his hax quite literally, as soon as the match starts (unless he starts off out of sight or something, in that case he'd be super careful to to engage unless he needs to).

 

[Greenshifter]

I said Ben, any reason why he couldn't do it before he transforms? It ain't like Diavolo doesn't have precog, c&e and time skip that allows him to pull that off.

Hold back to Ben’s dura to kill him? Yeah that might work. It’s quite annoying that he starts in base anyways due to the speed equalized headache and XLR8.

Also why are we assuming Ben picks those out of any of the other **** ton of options he has against what seems to be just some punk rock middle aged dude?

yeah initial pick might be random one due to how Diavolo looks. That’ll obviously change once he dies for the first time though.

Not entirely, depends on the length of Time Skip.

I mean transformation is near-instant, especially in UA. But you’re probably talking about him dialing the one he wants. Actually does Diavolo’s stuff work from 4 km’s?

he can't in UAF,

He can lol. But he’s not used as much there.

Why the hell doesn't Ben have a standard tactic section actually?

Good question, I might create one one day. But there’s way more things that are more pressing issues than standard tactics, especially since well, I’m here.

his standart tatics is turn into a alien

Lmao . I’m guessing no-one will argue against that one hmm. Honestly that’s not even always true against human opponents, especially if they’re unarmed.

combat like that humungossaur is his mostly likle pick, especially without prior knolage

You have somewhat of a point since it’s easier for Ben if he goes Humungousaur. Like his posture alone might scare away a few enemies.

Yeah I got that dude, but when there's like, 100 aliens

It’s either 30-40 ish in UA or 70, but he can’t use all 70 in this fight since half of them were never on-screen.

I want Green's input here, he's pretty reliable when it comes to this.

Ohn, that’s the nicest thing someone has said to me today, especially when it comes to B10 scaling. And a big f u to lemon kek.

 

[Greenshifter]

here he has like 12

WHEEZE

and he wouldn't underestimate someone he is willing to kill

Ben is always willing to kill when necessary and he only gets serious when the situation requires it.

he can use Epitapth even while time is deleted to to see what what happen after time resumes or if he'd pull off his attacks or not.

Sounds like a Diavolo FRA to me (if it works out range-wise), especially due to how the match is currently set up.

 

[Chariot190]

Hold back to Ben’s dura to kill him? Yeah that might work. It’s quite annoying that he starts in base anyways due to the speed equalized headache and XLR8.

Hold back, or just slap him with a crippling attack that won't kill, but would definitely put him on his ass.

yeah initial pick might be random one due to how Diavolo looks. That’ll obviously change once he dies for the first time though.

Diavolo would know if Ben comes back if he lands a killing blow, Epitaph allows him to see several tens of seconds into the future.

Good question, I might create one one day. But there’s way more things that are more pressing issues than standard tactics, especially since well, I’m here.

Idk chief, this seems to be a issue in almost every Ben thread, I've seen a few people point this out like Impress.

You have somewhat of a point since it’s easier for Ben if he goes Humungousaur. Like his posture alone might scare away a few enemies.

Honestly, any alien he picks would probably do the same thing to a normal person.

I mean transformation is near-instant, especially in UA. But you’re probably talking about him dialing the one he wants. Actually does Diavolo’s stuff work from 4 km’s?

Diavolo's Time Skip is Universal, his Stand's range is only a few meters though.

It’s either 30-40 ish in UA or 70, but he can’t use all 70 in this fight since half of them were never on-screen.

Don't know, I just looked at the alien section he had at the bottom and seen dozens of lads, went through a handful, who, what and why kinda matters here tho.


I'm not arguing for Diavolo, yet, this depends on what Ben picks still at first, there's definitely some aliens that ***** Diavolo hard. (Actually, what would happen if Ben gets his arm cut off? There has to be a built in feature to prevent that right? That seems to obvious?).

 

[Greenshifter]

Hold back, or just slap him with a crippling attack that won't kill, but would definitely put him on his ass.

K, keep in mind that Diavolo would need to account for Ben’s stamina and willpower though. Dude gets aged to death and stands up like 5-10 seconds after.

Idk chief, this seems to be a issue in almost every Ben thread, I've seen a few people point this out like Impress.

Well I’m currently working on some Ben 10 pages on CSAP where I just detail everything better. I’ll probably create a standards tactics there when I make Ben’s page and then implement it here.

Honestly, any alien he picks would probably do the same thing to a normal person.

That’s fair, this is mostly against humans armed with alien tech and/or alien fodder.

Don't know, I just looked at the alien section he had at the bottom and seen dozens of lads, went through a handful, who, what and why kinda matters here tho.

On the verse page you can see all his aliens per show, he’ll be capable of using almost everyone from the OS and UAF sections in this fight.

Actually, what would happen if Ben gets his arm cut off? There has to be a built in feature to prevent that right? That seems to obvious?

Good question. There are different interpretations of this. What I know for sure is that anyone who tries to cut Ben exactly where the Omnitrix is gets screwed. But considering how easy it has been removed at times during UAF (which you could argue is because Ben’s doing the removing of the watch for both himself and his enemies) and Albedo stating he could just tear off Ben’s arm in OV (which some people see as him bragging) you can make the case that you can just rip it clean off and perhaps even get the Omnitrix/Ultimatrix for yourself. However if Diavolo leaves it attached to Ben’s arm, the Ultimatrix will likely still protect Ben since distance you host doesn’t really matter much for it, I mean it can transform Ben and keep Kevin transformed while it’s in another dimension.

 

[Sonicflare9]

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