Ben 10: Update, Fixing and Additions part 5

[REX9097]

They would still get resistance to it due to surviving, or not getting one shotted, there is no evidence about including her dura neg in every attack

No, they should be completely unaffected by it, but if they faint, this means that they cannot bear it, so they must be survive by great damage and those who do not receive a single shot remain alive or something, even after a fight, so they are the ones who have resistance to it

 

[Lort15]

No, they should be completely unaffected by it, but if they faint, this means that they cannot bear it, so they must be survive by great damage.

what about buildings,walls and other things that aren't affected by Gwen's mana blast (dura neg)? we are sure that some of them are regular things

 

[REX9097]

what about buildings,walls and other things that aren't affected by Gwen's mana blast (dura neg)? we are sure that some of them are regular things

It's just a cartoon, it's just scenes for fun like the rest of the other scenes. If we take your logic, the walls that can withstand blast at star level have star durability

 

[Lort15]

It's just a cartoon, it's just scenes for fun like the rest of the other scenes. If we take your logic, the walls that can withstand blast at star level have star durability

then neutral about this thing, also as far as i remember verdona did get affected by a big mana blast

 

[REX9097]

then neutral about this thing, also as far as i remember verdona did get affected by a big mana blast

She literally survived form it and even after a fight it appeared she wasn't hurt by anything

 

[Lort15]

She literally survived form it and even after a fight it appeared she wasn't hurt by anything

isn't getting knockback mean she still gets damage? we literally scaling Anodite Gwen to 4-B via to knockbacking Sir George

 

[REX9097]

isn't getting knockback mean she still gets damage? we literally scaling Anodite Gwen to 4-B via to knockbacking Sir George

This means that she is able to survive a energy attacks. For example, Gwen survived a sonic blast and gained resistance thanks to it. Also, Verdona was fighting three people at the same time and did not focus on that she would receive an attack from Ben and Gwen.

 

[Lort15]

This means that she is able to survive these attacks. For example, Gwen survived a sonic blast and gained resistance thanks to it. Also, Verdona was fighting three people at the same time and did not focus on that she would receive an attack from Ben and Gwen.

yeah this seems fine but i'm still not quite sure about dura neg at molecular level in every Gwen's blast, i don't have a problem with dura neg exactly energy blasts does generally negs oppents durability. I'm just undeciced about molecular level add me neutral for that tho

 

[Success0906]

Regeneration: Low-Godly; Can regenerate Ben and himself after completely destroyed by Charmcaster's machine. possibly High-Godly; Can regenerate Ben after completely destroyed by Big Bang blast who can erase universe and historys.

While the Low-Godly regeneration does seem viable, but High-Godly seems to have many contradictions placed to it.

1. Omnitrix has immeasurable speed, meaning it reacted to the Annihilargh explosion and transformed Ben into Feedback, an appropriate alien for the situation.
2. It hasn't been stated that Ben was destroyed. Infact, we were explicitly made to believe that Ben transformed into Feedback to maintain the energy feedbacks of the Annihilargh.

Alien X:

• Resistance Negation against Invulnerability to Technology Manipulation: Cloud bypass Omnitrix's resistances to technology manipulation (He able to nullify Omnitrix's technology system who has resist technology manip)

No. Omnitrix doesn't have invulnerability to technology manipulation. You can list this as technology negation or something, though.

I would look into the rest when I am available. But the EE part looks fine.

 

[REX9097]

No. Omnitrix doesn't have invulnerability to technology manipulation. You can list this as technology negation or something, though.

This is how RN is written in order to determine Resistance Negation. For example: Kai (Ninjago)

 

[DemonicDude]

@Firestorm808

 

[Success0906]

@Firestorm808

You can tag Mods? How can I learn such unfathomable power? Tell me, Oh Great One.

 

[DemonicDude]

You can tag Mods? How can I learn such unfathomable power? Tell me, Oh Great One.

I'm not the Great One. Tho I have a great profile picture for you

 

[Success0906]

I'm not the Great One. Tho I have a great profile picture for you

I see... a cultured one. Finally, someone worthy of my attention.

 

[REX9097]

Bump

 

[DemonicDude]

I see... a cultured one. Finally, someone worthy of my attention.

Thanks I made this beautiful Charmcaster noises video for you

 

[Success0906]

Thanks I made this beautiful Charmcaster noises video for you

Thank you..

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

Haven't read the replies yet. Disagree with HighG regen for the Omnitrix as it's a speed feat rather than a regen feat.

Is there evidence that "multi-dimensional" refers to different spatial dimensions because in context, it refers to universes. Disagree.

It should also be included that the Plumber's course Ben, Gwen and Kevin take also include, cultural sensitivity, interstellar law and weapons and tactics. This would include cultures and laws of all the known species known to the Plumbers. Gwen was also able to find the true name of Legerdomain via designing an algorithm on a computer.

I agree with rest.

 

[REX9097]

Is there evidence that "multi-dimensional" refers to different spatial dimensions because in context, it refers to universes. Disagree.

It is accepted that Mana is higher-dimensional.

The Alpha Rune serves as a stabilizer for the realm of Ledgerdomain. Without it, this dimension falls apart. The Alpha Rune also grants all the power of the Alpha Rune and absolute power over magic and Ledgerdomain. Ledgerdomain has different time and space and is the place from which all magic in the universe flows that universe is an infinite space that contains an infinite number of dimensions, including higher-dimensional flows, and is one of the Alternate Dimensions/Interdimensional realm because it might contain time within itself. Charmcaster also claims that the Alpha Rune is a source of ultimate power in Ledgerdomain and has been proven to contain enormous amounts of mana

 

[Celestial_Scaler25]

It is accepted that Mana is higher-dimensional.

Then I agree with dimensional manipulation for Mana users.

 

[REX9097]

Bump

 

[Spilxson2]

I agree with the Intelligence rating for Kevin. Although I don't think him "managing to hack the Omnitrix" should be mentioned since that backfired horrendously

 

[REX9097]

I agree with the Intelligence rating for Kevin. Although I don't think him "managing to hack the Omnitrix" should be mentioned since that backfired horrendously

Can you determine where I said that?

Extraordinary Genius (He has great knowledge in astrophysics. He mentions that he is able to hack the Omnitrix, which is an advanced technology that cannot be hack even by Nanite, which are microscopic machines which were created by the scientists. He make the Hacking Machine (Ben 10: Alien Force, "Vengeance of Vilgax: Part 1"), which is able to reboot the Ultimatrix and change back Ben to normal since he fused with Ra'ad (Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, "Fused"). He passed the plumbers test, which is a test to reveal superior combat skills and cultural sensitivity, interstellar law and weapons and tactics. This would include cultures and laws of all the known species known to the Plumbers (Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, "Basic Training"). He has knowledge of dimensions, as he knew that mana is multi-dimensional)

 

[Spilxson2]

He says he's able to hack the Omnitrix but hacking it was extremely unsuccessful

 

[REX9097]

He says he's able to hack the Omnitrix but hacking it was extremely unsuccessful

But it's still usable, considering that even Nanites couldn't do that.

 

[Firestorm808]

Genius: Individuals with an exceptional capacity for knowledge and intelligence, usually in one area of varying depth. This level of intellect is the level of real-world geniuses, polymaths, and genuinely extremely prominent intellectuals, and, in the absence of better feats, should be the default intelligence category for fictional characters with exceptional or superhuman intelligence.
Extraordinary Genius: Individuals whose knowledge spreads over multiple fields of science and who vastly surpass the real world's upper human limits. At this level, many are capable of creating extremely advanced futuristic technology, executing complex strategies even under high pressure, outperforming supercomputers,[1] and even accurately predicting the future through sheer mental calculations. This is where super scientists of exceptional scientific knowledge begin to appear.

Kevin Levin:

Extraordinary Genius (He has great knowledge in astrophysics. He mentions that he is able to hack the Omnitrix, which is an advanced technology that cannot be hack even by Nanite, which are microscopic machines which were created by the scientists. He make the Hacking Machine (Ben 10: Alien Force, "Vengeance of Vilgax: Part 1"), which is able to reboot the Ultimatrix and change back Ben to normal since he fused with Ra'ad (Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, "Fused"). He passed the plumbers test, which is a test to reveal superior combat skills and cultural sensitivity, interstellar law and weapons and tactics. This would include cultures and laws of all the known species known to the Plumbers (Ben 10: Ultimate Alien, "Basic Training"). He has knowledge of dimensions, as he knew that mana is multi-dimensional)

Rating is okay. Will have to revise the actual justifications.

Gwen Tennyson:

Extraordinary Genius (Comparable to Kevin, she got a 98% on the plumbers' exam which Kevin didn't get. She learned to use magic on her own and didn't need to go to magic schools, and even she learned to use mana which is life-energy, magic, souls and multi-dimensional. Gwen was also able to find the true name of Legerdomain via designing an algorithm on a computer.)

Not really?

I don't consider the Plumber's exam covers Extraordinary Genius stuff.

 

[REX9097]

I don't consider the Plumber's exam covers Extraordinary Genius stuff.

She passed the plumbers' test with the highest score among Ben's team, so it must be comparable to Kevin. Also he find the true name of Legerdomain via designing an algorithm on a computer which can only be found true name of Legerdomain using magic.

 

[Firestorm808]

She passed the plumbers' test with the highest score among Ben's team, so it must be comparable to Kevin. Also he find the true name of Legerdomain via designing an algorithm on a computer which can only be found true name of Legerdomain using magic.

"spreads over multiple fields of science and who vastly surpass the real world's upper human limits."
He passed the plumbers test, which is a test to reveal superior combat skills and cultural sensitivity, interstellar law and weapons and tactics.

These do not overlap.

 

[REX9097]

"spreads over multiple fields of science and who vastly surpass the real world's upper human limits."
He passed the plumbers test, which is a test to reveal superior combat skills and cultural sensitivity, interstellar law and weapons and tactics.

These do not overlap.

The plumbers test itself was hard even for Kevin as he got at least 72% which is surpassed by Gwen who got 98% let's remember that the true name of mana which only Alpha Rune knows so it should be comparable to Kevin, if not superior to him.

 

[Firestorm808]

The plumbers test itself was hard even for Kevin as he got at least 72% which is surpassed by Gwen who got 98%

In what way does "combat skills and cultural sensitivity, interstellar law and weapons and tactics" involve the upper limits of multiple fields of science?

 

[REX9097]

In what way does "combat skills and cultural sensitivity, interstellar law and weapons and tactics" involve the upper limits of multiple fields of science?

Yes, it should be included laws of physics, as universe rely entirely on laws of physics, and Ben's Universe has the same laws as Real World

 

[Firestorm808]

Yes, it should be included laws of physics, as universe rely entirely on laws of physics, and Ben's Universe has the same laws as Real World

I highly doubt the interstellar law for space cop training refer to physical laws.

 

[REX9097]

I highly doubt the interstellar law for space cop training refer to physical laws.

Does you neutral or agree with Extraordinary Genius for Gwen or disagree with it? Also cloud you start with new abilities?

 

[REX9097]

I highly doubt the interstellar law for space cop training refer to physical laws.

We still proof that Gwen able to find true name of magic without the need for the Alpha Rune.

 

[Firestorm808]

Does you neutral or agree with Extraordinary Genius for Gwen or disagree with it?

We still proof that Gwen able to find true name of magic without the need for the Alpha Rune.

I am against Gwen having Extraordinary Genius at this time. Being a Genius in Magic might be fine.

 

[Firestorm808]

• Omnitrix:
  • Resistance to Technology Manipulation and Hacking: Rex wasn't able to control the Ultimatrix or even hack it.
    • I suppose
  • Regeneration:
    • Low-Godly; Can regenerate Ben and himself after completely destroyed by Charmcaster's machine.
      • I suppose. Will need a second opinion.
    • Possibly High-Godly; Can regenerate Ben after completely destroyed by Big Bang blast who can erase universe and historys.
      • It's unclear if Ben's Body was damaged during this scene.
• Gwen:
  • Matter Manipulation: Molecular level; Cooper wants a burst of energy to expand at the molecular level for the Null Void gate and Gwen provides it.
    • "We need a powerful burst of energy to loosen the gateway's ionic bonds at a molecular level"
    • It's Energy Manipulation.
    • It's unclear to me if the energy loosening molecular bonds is specific to the gateway or works on everything in general.

 

[REX9097]

• Gwen:
  • Matter Manipulation: Molecular level; Cooper wants a burst of energy to expand at the molecular level for the Null Void gate and Gwen provides it.
    • "We need a powerful burst of energy to loosen the gateway's ionic bonds at a molecular level"
    • It's Energy Manipulation.
    • It's unclear to me if the energy loosening molecular bonds is specific to the gateway or works on everything in general.

Gwen's mana is able to affect portal on a molecular level as described in scan and this should be prove that Gwen has Matter Manipulation (Molecular Level) for example: Ghost In Danny Phantom

• Matter Manipulation (Molecular level) and Durability Negation: Ectoplasmic energy can affect the body on a molecular level, as stated in the intro of the show, the ectoplasmic energy from the ghost portal affected Danny's molecules[22] and in the final episode of the series, and several other ghosts affected Danny's body on the same level with their energy[4].

 

[REX9097]

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[REX9097]

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[REX9097]

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