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Ben 10: Update, Fixing and Additions part 4
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the_doctor
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Agreed with thread but where is mod?
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Firestorm didn't even put his seer even though he said he would see it later. Spaceman put a vote, and the rest of the staffs did not respond to me.
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- Anodite Physiology
- Superhuman stamina - Anodies are so powerful, she has enough energy to fill a world with an energy for many years.
- Seems fine.
- Mana Manipulation:
- Technology Manipulation Negation: By exploiting the incompatibility between mana and high-tech machines, mana users can send out a wave of mana to intentionally disrupt a nearby piece of high-tech machinery.
- Not really negation. It's more so just a general reaction with technology.
- Gwen Tennyson:
- Absorption Negation, Healing and Purification: Type 1; She healed Kevin's DNA and nullify Kevin's Absorption, which absorbed Crystal and mixed it with his DNA which led to him turning into the Crystal monster.
- I lean toward just Purification from the clip.
- Reality Warping: Has power to fix everything destroyed by Aggregor with a snap of his fingers.
- Was there supposed to be audio?
- Mana Manipulation: Paradox has power to fix everything destroyed by Aggregor including Legerdomain which is considered dimension/realm made of mana and has own space-time continuum.
- You're gonna need to elaborate as to "how" he's fixing things. I assume it's some application of time manipulation.
- Extrasensory Perception & Enhanced Senses: 26-D; the Chronal Randomization Barrier cannot be seen or sense from mana users like Gwen, which capable of sensing and see the entire universe, but but Paradox can sense and see the Chronal Randomization Barrier.
- The most I can agree with is Extrasensory Perception/Enhanced Senses toward time-related objects.
- Does destroying one void realm and ending up in a different void realm count as Nonexistance erasure?
- I suppose?
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Yes, Nonexistence/Type 1 is different from Type 2
Kevin literally stated that Paradox was able to do this with a snap of his fingers and not through Time Travel since if he wanted to fix all the destruction caused by Aggregor via Time Travel so he would need to travel through time and stop Aggregor but by using "his powers" he will fix everything with his snap of his fingers which means it's not even Time Manipulation since his powers rely on more things than time manipulation.
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+ he said he cannot time travel to when Aggregor absorbed all andromeda aliens with chronologger because traveling time weakens the fabric of space so yeah he can't fix the things with time travel
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According to the transcript, Kevin was asking, not stating. Gwen's question suggests that it would involve some use of time manipulation.
Kevin: With all your powers, why don't you just, like, snap your fingers or something and fix all this?
Gwen: You could go back in time and stop aggregor before he gets the map.
Paradox: If only it were that simple. There are places I cannot go and things I cannot do.
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Is there an existing profile you can cite as an example?
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Okay. Checks out.
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Literally Gwen and Kevin's question was different as he explained that "His powers" are not only related to Time Travel or Time Manipulation but also to Reality Manipulation as he answered two questions not one "There are places I cannot go and things I cannot do" indicating that he can fix everything with his fingertips and nothing was mentioned about Time Manipulation but Gwen says that you can travel to stop Aggregor and but he he answered this question in the past and he stated traveling time weakens the fabric of space so yeah he can't fix the things with time travel
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Do you agree?
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Seems vague to say what he can do is catch-all reality warping. Do we have any practical examples of non-spacetime related acts/feats to suggest that?
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He agrees with NEE
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He was able to make the FOC invisible. He created a Chronal Randomization Barrier (which should also grant him Creation) and there's a scene that might explain his Reality Warping.
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Possibly rating for RW should be fine
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The FOC is inaccessible (and Invisible) because of the CRB.
"Creation is the ability to create something from nothing, without manipulating existing things." He's a time manipulator, so that's not really from nothing.
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CRB was created and given its powers by Paradox which must be Paradox comparable to CRB. It also hides the FOC and CRB, and this appears here, where the FOC is immediately shown and the CRB is skipped, and this is also supported.
It was never mentioned that CRB was created because of Time Manipulation or anything. This is:
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Does this can gave Nonexistence Erasure (Aspect Type 2 (Concept)) as Geochelone Aerios are not have the concept of lying.
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Just wanted to point out that Alien X should also resist NEE (same type and aspect which firestorm agreed with)
This is simply due to him not being affected by destruction of White void which has no space-time
This is simply due to him not being affected by destruction of White void which has no space-time
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Alien X isn't NEE to be has resist NEE
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Resisting the Erasure of a void which lacks space-time isn't Resistance to it? Correct me if I'm wrongAlien X isn't NEE to be has resist NEE
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No, if Alien X is has NEP, so should be has resist NEE.
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That sounds more figurative than anything.
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Did Zeno gain this resistance for his feat?
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He doesn't have that so the resistance shouldn't be given, my apologies.
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It's cartoon
, and why is "more figurative"?
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Dude, it's just a emotion. And concept can be interpreted in many ways. In this particular scan, it's just a figurative way of saying, "They can't lie for jack."It's cartoon
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It was not mentioned that emotions are meant because even lying is not an emotion. Also, it is a cartoon whose rules are different from real life, so the reference to it being just emotions or something similar was not mentioned here.
Prove?
They literally said they had no concept of lying and it wasn't even referenced to what you said.
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Conceptual Manipulation
Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly...
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is a completely different thing. it's about creating concepts similar to laws. (aka Abstract levels of concept)
Not learning how to lie is equivalent of being from a different country and traveling to some other country and finding how people dress or do things differently, that's the whole thing with Galapagos in Ben 10 Ultimate Alien, His world was peaceful, but not "conceptually peaceful" the moment Aggregor showed up peace was gone in his world and he learned how to lie too when he attacked Aggregor in the ship.
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We don't take about Conceptual Manipulation!Conceptual Manipulation
Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly...
is a completely different thing. it's about creating concepts similar to laws. (aka Abstract levels of concept)
Not learning how to lie is equivalent of being from a different country and traveling to some other country and finding how people dress or do things differently, that's the whole thing with Galapagos in Ben 10 Ultimate Alien, His world was peaceful, but not "conceptually peaceful" the moment Aggregor showed up peace was gone in his world and he learned how to lie too when he attacked Aggregor in the ship.
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It just meant they didn't know how to lie. That's it.
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To tell the truth, no, since if I'm not mistaken it must be because the inhabitants of their planet, the Geochelone Aerios, must not have the habit of telling lies. If I'm not mistaken, there's even an EP where Galapagus lies to save the 5 prisoners of the Andromeda Galaxy from Aggregor.
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Parts Firestorm accepts make sense, but I will wait for input before commenting on the rest.
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