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Tbf Ben says it's a "big pocket" because of how big the 3D size of the Null Void actually is. Thing is that it isn't the first time Ben went to the Null Void and he's supposed to have incredible memory so kind of a weird comment...
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Ben 10 - Low 2-C Alien X proposal
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Oh, well oke.
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So I take that as a concession on Legerdomain? Anyways do you have the scan of Gwen searching Kevin's car by now?
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No watch Ben was an aberration that even paradox was shocked to see ,which he later described as fallen leaf from the trunk Regarding Gwen 10 is a little weird because we never saw her getting the omnitrix in OV ,maybe could happened afterwards (you know different timeline infinite possibilities ) as she had aliens like wildvine which were unlocked after specific set of events .OS gwen 10 is non canon and was done was for fun.The restoration was done as we saw paradox leave no watch to fight evil bens ,maybe clockwork was needed to attach the fallen leaf to main trunk.Honestly these were the most screwed episode considering it was their 200th special
.That's why i wasn't counting on this point.Ledgerdomain's multiversal status is unknown as it is never seen in the shown.However we were shown that all magic in the universe flows through ledgerdomain .Also it would quite a burden for 1 alpha rune to channel life energy across infinitely branching timelines considering zs'skayr almost drained it while collecting life energy to restore lord transyl.
*alternate dimension ,i can't comment on it having a timestream
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Not sure, it's just that legerdomain can be different topic than of nullvoid, can be discussed later on, afterall it's on nullvoid. And yes I have seen that scan just will upload soon.
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Had thought of more than this argument but just nullvoid is the top most priority as per thread.
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ok i seeHad thought of more than this argument but just nullvoid is the top most priority as per thread.
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Yes but that doesn't change what I said.
Nah that place had nothing to do with No Watch Ben's timeline.
Wasn't she literally pulled from the pilot episode?
I argue it's canon based on Reiner's scan that every story is canon among other things.
Time loop shenanigans, cause this is before they get erased.
That leaf seems to be very unimportant...
Yup.Honestly these were the most screwed episode considering it was their 200th special
Dagon is bound by the way of magic, so make that multiverse instead of universe.
The alpha rune gives control over magic itself and has some insane scaling because of that. Charmcaster had to yeet 600,000 souls to resurrect a single guy, so it taken a lot of energy from the alpha rune to resurrect Lord Transyl makes sense (and even if it doesn't make sense, it doesn't change how powerful the alpha rune was already established to be). Also multiple maps of infinity being a thing is a whole other can of worms we probably shouldn't get into.
Universe too, the term is uses interchangeably when talking about his realm throughout the show, it's essentially the basis of my argument. Reiner has scans for this too on his channel. It has it's own timestream because it's parallel to Ben's entire universe.
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Here, but you really needed proof for my claims about character statements, you don't believe your friend.
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No, just campsite ,both are different as that ben was aware of gwen getting the omnitrix and later that omnitrix went to grandpa max ,here it seemed she had experience already
Not a nice logic much like "Alien X is bounded by Multiversal Preservation Act ,So make him multiversal".
I agree that episode can't be explained logically.
ok i'll see for this ,he pretty much collects scans from various medium includes games ,comics etc..
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Here, but you really needed proof for my claims about character statements, you don't believe your friend.
Wait a second... was Gwen supposed to find Kevin's car in this episode because of Charmcaster's plan? Also I believed you, I just wanted more context.
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Yes.
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Gwen's a natural and is it the campsite from the pilot? Also I know both are different, I just argue there are 2 Gwen 10's.
It is, we know magic extends to Dagon's universe, just like we know Alien X's reality warping powers extend to the multiverse, it works for range.
Maybe one day...
Yeah.
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Seems like Charmcaster wanted her to find it and nudged her to look outside of the universe, kek. Explains how she couldn't find it before.
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Not really ,its decided in the thread what to accept as canonical and what not as we dont have time stop for alien X as shown in vilgax attacksWait on vs battle? Fr, it'll change the course of histories tk?
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That's not really how it works, look at Way Big's page. All pages are just outdated (and Alien X has time manipulation so), feel free to fix them.
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Really ,Then TIme Stop should be his starting move also
, I thought the time manipulation was from his debut episode for fixing the dam and serena's statement of changing the very nature of space and time but let's ignore it ,its off-topic
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Who knows, anyway my arguments here or what I'm stating here can be contradictory to what I believe or state outside, yk. It's a vs battle way, not mine.
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He can interfere with the past as well, as they were talking about saving dinosaurs from extinction.Really ,Then TIme Stop should be his starting move also
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Don't weasel out. VSBW's standards don't prevent you from arguing it's outside of the universe, you fully believed Legerdomain was inside of the universe before this thread and if you didn't imma be very pissed.Who knows, anyway my arguments here or what I'm stating here can be contradictory to what I believe or state outside, yk. It's a vs battle way, not mine.
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If it was outside of the universe Aggregor or the Trio Could have used the Door to Anywhere to Travel to the Forge of Creation Directly
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Well, I'll see if someone uses legerdomain as the argument against me. For right now, nullvoid is priority.
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Also, let's talk aboutPost in thread 'Ben 10 General Discussion Thread' https://vsbattles.com/threads/ben-10-general-discussion-thread.121978/post-4959404 . We can even discuss legerdomain in here.
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1) Aggregor doesn't know the true name of the Forge AFAWK, 2) Chrono Randomization barrier goes brrrr.If it was outside of the universe Aggregor or the Trio Could have used the Door to Anywhere to Travel to the Forge of Creation Directly
I doubt anyone's gonna use any argument anymore on this thread lol.Well, I'll see if someone uses legerdomain as the argument against me. For right now, nullvoid is priority.
Paradox's statement of Albedo being stuck as Alien X for a year, that's why.
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Sad.
Wait reference is enough
, the hell parallel paradox has dozens of it man.
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1- Alpha rune is the secret true name of magic, whoever holds it holds the power over magic itself.
2- Magic is such a big deal, it mostly just knowing the secret names of things, names are power.
3- Alpha rune = secret true name of everything.
My maths
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Reference of canon material to the material you are trying to prove is canon, not the other way around.Wait reference is enough
...1- Alpha rune is the secret true name of magic, whoever holds it holds the power over magic itself.
2- Magic is such a big deal, it mostly just knowing the secret names of things, names are power.
3- Alpha rune = secret true name of everything.
My maths
Wait hold on a second, has any magician explicitly used spatial hax before?
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There are aren't there?
If I remember correctly, hax has shown to alter reality and Gwen seen to manipulate time.
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When does the show reference the Parallel Paradox comic?There are aren't there?
I need more explicit than this.
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About incursions attack ig?
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Bump thy
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This is dead for centuries now.
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