Ben 10 High 5A Upgrade and Clockwork Speed Upgrade

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

"High 5A UP Scaling"


-1 Captain Nemesis tanks hits from Ultimate Humungausour

Proof

- 2 Gwen and Kevin tanks hits from Ultimate Humungausour also they damages him

Proof


- 3 Sunder tanks hits from Ultimate Cannonbolt who is comparable to Ben's other aliens

Proof

So my point is anyone who scales to these characters should get high 5a key (probably the all ben 10 chars)



"Clockwork Speed Upgrade"

Reacts and attacks before Captain Nemesis (Base Captain Nemesis can keep up with Base Ben so Clockwork should get MFTL+ combat and reaction speed because of this feat)

Proof (0:37)

Bliztes Mad Ben's Diamondhead with his time beam (Diamondhead has already MFTL+ combat and reaction speed so that can count as MFTL+ Combat and Reaction Speed for Clockwork)

Proof (0:10)


This is my first post thread so forgive me if anything is wrong with writing or such other things

Agree: DarkDragonMedeus , @Ghengiroo115, @Hellformer (with speed and Sunder)
Disagree:
Neutral: @Hellformer (with rest of the AP)

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Bump

 

[Ghengiroo115]

"High 5A UP Scaling"


-1 Captain Nemesis tanks hits from Ultimate Humungausour

Proof

- 2 Gwen and Kevin tanks hits from Ultimate Humungausour also they damages him

Proof


- 3 Sunder tanks hits from Ultimate Cannonbolt who is comparable to Ben's other aliens

Proof

So my point is anyone who scales to these characters should get high 5a key (probably the all ben 10 chars)

This causes circular scaling since Ultimate Humungousaur is 10x base Humungousaur, who is already either comparable or superior to these characters.

"Clockwork Speed Upgrade"

Reacts and attacks before Captain Nemesis (Base Captain Nemesis can keep up with Base Ben so Clockwork should get MFTL+ combat and reaction speed because of this feat)

Proof (0:37)

Bliztes Mad Ben's Diamondhead with his time beam (Diamondhead has already MFTL+ combat and reaction speed so that can count as MFTL+ Combat and Reaction Speed for Clockwork)

Proof (0:10)

Yeah Clockwork should probably scale to everyone else speed-wise. At the very least he should have MFTL+ reaction speed since he can activate his abilities quick enough to be useable.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

This causes circular scaling since Ultimate Humungousaur is 10x base Humungousaur, who is already either comparable or superior to these characters.


Yeah Clockwork should probably scale to everyone else speed-wise. At the very least he should have MFTL+ reaction speed since he can activate his abilities quick enough to be useable.

thank you for your reply, if that ult humungousaur feat was one time based i would ignore that but that happened more than once

 

[DemonicDude]

Soooooo what clips do i have to make imgur album

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Soooooo what clips do i have to make imgur album

For one between 0:26-0:59 would be great, for two between 0:00-0:20 would be great and also 1:10, for three 0:23, the rest is already mentoined

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Ghengiroo115 makes sense to me.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Ghengiroo115 makes sense to me.

Thank you for your reply

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Votes are counted.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Soooooo what clips do i have to make imgur album

also may i get your opinion about the thread

 

[Hellformer]

Not sure about AP but definitely agree with the speed upgrade

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Not sure about AP but definitely agree with the speed upgrade

why tho kevin literally damages him with the car also Gwen with her mana blasts, Sunders attacks are hurting Ult Cannonbolt at 0:23

 

[Hellformer]

why tho kevin literally damages with the car also Gwen with her mana blasts

The thing is that there are instances where Kevin is shown on par with Swampfire, in his return episode of Alien Force Season 1 ep1. Like once vilgax defeats a full sized Humungousaur and then later on struggles with base Humungousaur which was Azmuth's transformation. So in order to reduce inconsistency, these scenes should be considered outliers.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

The thing is that there are instances where Kevin is shown on par with Swampfire, in his return episode of Alien Force Season 1 ep1. Like once vilgax defeats a full sized Humungousaur and then later on struggles with base Humungousaur which was Azmuth's transformation. So in order to reduce inconsistency, these scenes should be considered outliers.

understood, what do you think about sunder vs ult cannonbolt and Captain nemesis are these an outlier too?

 

[Hellformer]

understood, what do you think about sunder vs ult cannonbolt

Should work

and Captain nemesis are these an outlier too?

Not sure but probably

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Should work

Not sure but probably

alright i'm counting you as Agree for speed Neutral for Ap, is it ok for you?

 

[Hellformer]

alright i'm counting you as Agree for speed Neutral for Ap, is it ok for you?

Agree with Sunder, neutral with rest of the AP

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Agree with Sunder, neutral with rest of the AP

Counted.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Ghengiroo115 makes sense to me.

can you ping other admins please?

 

[Hellformer]

can you ping other admins please?

Non admins cannot do this. Ask DDM

Ghengiroo115 makes sense to me.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Non admins cannot do this. Ask DDM

yeah that's why i asked to DDM (if they are called as "staff members" idk but admins should work too?)

 

[Hellformer]

yeah that's why i asked to DDM (if they are called as "staff members" idk but admins should work too?)

Oh wait i misunderstood something, yes admins and staffs both work for it.

 

[Ben_10_Stick_Nodes]

Oh wait i misunderstood something, yes admins and staffs both work for it.

also thanks for your reply