Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

[Ghengiroo115]

So in the episode Ben Again, Eon seemed to not have proper control of the Chrono Navigator and it was gonna take a notable amount of time to properly destroy everything. However his more controlled use of the device caused all the different eras of time to be “anchored” together, and without him to “anchor” them the timelines began “snapping into place”, meaning all the chaos he was causing was directly tied to his power with the Chrono Navigator. Assuming this would give him a proper AP tier and its not just range or hax or whatever, I’ve got a couple thoughts:

1. Is this more controlled showing limited to just the Prime timeline, or to all timelines? Eon partly wanted the Chrono Navigator to free himself from being trapped in the Prime timeline so it would make sense for it to extend to all timelines, however we only ever see stuff from the Prime timeline so it’s a little iffy.
2. Maybe a little cheeky here, but is there any way Clockwork’s Time Rays can scale to this? The way Paradox uses the term “anchor”, it sounds like the two Clockworks are basically ripping Eon in half across their two time zones, which might qualify as an AP thing. Eon is shown filling up with a green energy and is also heard being in audible pain, so whatever they’re doing is definitely hurting him. Clockwork already has 5-D range and technically another form of 4-D scaling in Ultimate Ben scaling to near-peak Eon (although Ultimate Ben would be stronger by an unquantifiable degree), so it’s not completely out of the question. Would have to look to see if there are any anti-feats for Clockwork’s Time Rays or see if the Maltruant scaling gets too weird, but it’s an interesting thought nonetheless.

As an aside, the “ripped across time zones” thing for Eon supports some form of Resurrection, and he also survives being completely destroyed in Ultimate Alien.

 

[Hellformer]

So in the episode Ben Again, Eon seemed to not have proper control of the Chrono Navigator and it was gonna take a notable amount of time to properly destroy everything. However his more controlled use of the device caused all the different eras of time to be “anchored” together, and without him to “anchor” them the timelines began “snapping into place”, meaning all the chaos he was causing was directly tied to his power with the Chrono Navigator. Assuming this would give him a proper AP tier and its not just range or hax or whatever, I’ve got a couple thoughts:

1. Is this more controlled showing limited to just the Prime timeline, or to all timelines? Eon partly wanted the Chrono Navigator to free himself from being trapped in the Prime timeline so it would make sense for it to extend to all timelines, however we only ever see stuff from the Prime timeline so it’s a little iffy.

Here:

I'm not sure how much time we have so listen carefully, Eon wants nothing less than absolute power over everything, all timelines, all alternate realities, everything.

1. Maybe a little cheeky here, but is there any way Clockwork’s Time Rays can scale to this? The way Paradox uses the term “anchor”, it sounds like the two Clockworks are basically ripping Eon in half across their two time zones, which might qualify as an AP thing. Eon is shown filling up with a green energy and is also heard being in audible pain, so whatever they’re doing is definitely hurting him. Clockwork already has 5-D range and technically another form of 4-D scaling in Ultimate Ben scaling to near-peak Eon (although Ultimate Ben would be stronger by an unquantifiable degree), so it’s not completely out of the question. Would have to look to see if there are any anti-feats for Clockwork’s Time Rays or see if the Maltruant scaling gets too weird, but it’s an interesting thought nonetheless.

As an aside, the “ripped across time zones” thing for Eon supports some form of Resurrection, and he also survives being completely destroyed in Ultimate Alien.

If you scale Clockwork's time rays to tier 1 then maltruant would also be tier 1, which means future Kai and Atomic-X would be that high as well.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

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My worry is that while Eon’s goal is absolute control, it’s unknown how much of the Chrono Navigator’s power he actually has control over. He was initially confused when the holes in time started going out of control, but since the anchoring was attributed to his power specifically we know he has control over a 2-A/Low 1-C level of power (the 1-B stuff is only from him wildly expelling the Chrono Navigator’s power, it’s not something he can control). It’s just hard to say which one.

For just Prime timeline:

• We only see into places in the Prime timeline, although since we only properly see into three places it’s entirely possible the other holes in time lead to other timeline.
• The way Paradox describes them as “time zones” and “different eras of time” implies its relegated to just one timeline’s series of events, however the wording is vague enough to interpret it a different way if needed.

For more than just the Prime timeline:

• It’d be weird for Eon to only have control over a single timeline level of power when he could hold much more in Ultimate Alien.
• He pulled his minions from other timelines, meaning he has at least some access to other timelines.
• He’s no longer bound to the Prime timeline after his defeat, which could be due to the Chrono Navigator.

Could go either way.

If you scale Clockwork's time rays to tier 1 then maltruant would also be tier 1, which means future Kai and Atomic-X would be that high as well.

Ye, tbh vibes tell me Atomic-X is relative to or stronger than Ultimate Ben anyway, so this could be the proper reason to get him there if everyone else agrees with this kind of scaling. I think Atomic-X’s punch making the Chronosapien Time Bomb expand quicker than before is also an impressive and notable supporting feat, even if it’s unquantifiable and he still got erased.

Future Kai being so high is kinda goofy, but Excalibur is apparently this invincible sword or whatever so I guess it works.

 

[Adr10K]

Ye, tbh vibes tell me Atomic-X is relative to or stronger than Ultimate Ben anyway, so this could be the proper reason to get him there if everyone else agrees with this kind of scaling. I think Atomic-X’s punch making the Chronosapien Time Bomb expand quicker than before is also an impressive and notable supporting feat, even if it’s unquantifiable and he still got erased.

I tried that, and everyone disagreed without taking a moment to think if there could be another interpretation, we agree with your proposal, but good luck trying to convince anyone else.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

I tried that, and everyone disagreed without taking a moment to think if there could be another interpretation, we agree with your proposal, but good luck trying to convince anyone else.

Which part did you try before, the Clockworks defeating Eon or Atomic-X affecting the Time Bomb? The Time Bomb feat is unquantifiable on its own, but I feel that + the Clockworks splitting Chrononavigator Eon + Ultimate Ben fighting UA Eon has gotta give something. Or maybe I’m glazing too hard and I’m a hypocrite for having a problem with everyone being Tier 4, idk.

Edit: Now that I think about it, you might even be able to add on the universal shenanigans Ascalon and Dagon have. It’s always been a debate whether that should be AP or not, but it’s another thing to consider.

 

[Lort15]

Which part did you try before, the Clockworks defeating Eon or Atomic-X affecting the Time Bomb? The Time Bomb feat is unquantifiable on its own, but I feel that + the Clockworks splitting Chrononavigator Eon + Ultimate Ben fighting UA Eon has gotta give something. Or maybe I’m glazing too hard and I’m a hypocrite for having a problem with everyone being Tier 4, idk.

Edit: Now that I think about it, you might even be able to add on the universal shenanigans Ascalon and Dagon have. It’s always been a debate whether that should be AP or not, but it’s another thing to consider.

Let's give it a shot | Atomic-X (Ben 10) Upgrade

Let's see if this works. During the season finale of Ben 10: Omniverse, Ben 10,000 as Atomic-X, tries to stop the Chronosapien Time Bomb in an effort to save the day...by punching it. Aside from how dump this plan was, I figured out that we could use this as a feat. As the scan shows, Ben was...

vsbattles.com

 

[Lort15]

I tried that, and everyone disagreed without taking a moment to think if there could be another interpretation, we agree with your proposal, but good luck trying to convince anyone else.

I guess it makes sense atomic x having low 1-C AP and dura via affecting the bomb's blast he just doesn't have resistance to haxes that bomb has

 

[Omegabronic]

I went to update my Eon sandbox to include stuff from my recent CRT, and I realised I’ve been sitting on this thing for a whole year…

God I’m lazy

organized between "Aged" and "Young" in the images... to reflect better the keys

 

[Ghengiroo115]

organized between "Aged" and "Young" in the images... to reflect better the keys

Yeah that probably would be better since OV Eon’s key is the middle one yet he used to be the last image. I also like the new render for OV Eon.

A bit nitpicky, but I think it’d look more consistent if RAT young Eon was before UA young Eon like with his aged versions. There’s physically no difference between prime and near-prime Eon as they’re both physically in their 30s. Tbh I’m also not sure if RAT Eon is actually more powerful than UA Eon despite being in his full prime, as his older self is also weaker than the main series version. Don’t worry about changing it around again if you don’t feel like doing that, I can change it tomorrow when I get the time if you don’t mind me thinking that order’s a bit better.

 

[Omegabronic]

Yeah that probably would be better since OV Eon’s key is the middle one yet he used to be the last image. I also like the new render for OV Eon.

A bit nitpicky, but I think it’d look more consistent if RAT young Eon was before UA young Eon like with his aged versions. There’s physically no difference between prime and near-prime Eon as they’re both physically in their 30s. Tbh I’m also not sure if RAT Eon is actually more powerful than UA Eon despite being in his full prime, as his older self is also weaker than the main series version. Don’t worry about changing it around again if you don’t feel like doing that, I can change it tomorrow when I get the time if you don’t mind me thinking that order’s a bit better.

Eh, i mean... i guess?

For his AP tho https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/File:Young_Chronian.png
The Hands need the "Full Power of a young Chronian" to be activated, so if anything, both shouldn't be weaker than the other... altho, didn't Eon in UA needes to trick Ben 10.000 and OG Ben to activate the hands? Maybe that could imply RAT young Eon really is his "full power"

Also, a resistance and maybe add on to Eon and Ben 10K, the Hands when powered Null magic https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/File:RAT_Gwen_Can't_Use_Magic.png

Yet Ben could use no problem in UA

 

[Hellformer]

My worry is that while Eon’s goal is absolute control, it’s unknown how much of the Chrono Navigator’s power he actually has control over. He was initially confused when the holes in time started going out of control, but since the anchoring was attributed to his power specifically we know he has control over a 2-A/Low 1-C level of power (the 1-B stuff is only from him wildly expelling the Chrono Navigator’s power, it’s not something he can control). It’s just hard to say which one.

For just Prime timeline:

• We only see into places in the Prime timeline, although since we only properly see into three places it’s entirely possible the other holes in time lead to other timeline.
• The way Paradox describes them as “time zones” and “different eras of time” implies its relegated to just one timeline’s series of events, however the wording is vague enough to interpret it a different way if needed.

For more than just the Prime timeline:

• It’d be weird for Eon to only have control over a single timeline level of power when he could hold much more in Ultimate Alien.
• He pulled his minions from other timelines, meaning he has at least some access to other timelines.
• He’s no longer bound to the Prime timeline after his defeat, which could be due to the Chrono Navigator.

Could go either way.

The latter makes sense to me

Ye, tbh vibes tell me Atomic-X is relative to or stronger than Ultimate Ben anyway, so this could be the proper reason to get him there if everyone else agrees with this kind of scaling. I think Atomic-X’s punch making the Chronosapien Time Bomb expand quicker than before is also an impressive and notable supporting feat, even if it’s unquantifiable and he still got erased.

Future Kai being so high is kinda goofy, but Excalibur is apparently this invincible sword or whatever so I guess it works.

Yeah I personally wouldn't mind that.

 

[Omegabronic]

Actually... in UA what was Eon's objective? Was he trying to remake all timelines into 1 where is the only Ben? Or only 1 timeline?

 

[Hellformer]

Actually... in UA what was Eon's objective? Was he trying to remake all timelines into 1 where is the only Ben? Or only 1 timeline?

The former

 

[Ghengiroo115]

For his AP tho https://ben10.fandom.com/wiki/File:Young_Chronian.png
The Hands need the "Full Power of a young Chronian" to be activated, so if anything, both shouldn't be weaker than the other... altho, didn't Eon in UA needes to trick Ben 10.000 and OG Ben to activate the hands? Maybe that could imply RAT young Eon really is his "full power"

It’s kinda vague, but I believe Eon needed the Hands activated to free himself from the two Bens’ Omnitrices, so he wasn’t able to activate it himself.

Way Big and Ultimate Ben activating the Hands would either mean RAT Eon is relative to Ultimate Ben and slightly weaker than prime UA Eon (which is consistent with their old selves also having a power difference), or that Way Big is somewhat relative to Ultimate Ben and RAT Eon upscales from their combined power (which would then make him relative to UA Eon).

The second option would cause Way Big to be way stronger than he’s consistently portrayed as, so I lean towards the first option.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

The latter makes sense to me

Actually thinking about it more, while it’s possible Eon was anchoring more than one timeline’s eras together, I’m not sure he was anchoring all of them.

1. Eon wasn’t capable of Low 1-C level stuff when he clashed with Ultimate Ben’s Clockwork, which is stronger than 16 year old Ben’s. While Ultimate Ben won the clash, Eon still put up a fight and it was implied he purposely lost to get sent back in time.
2. Atomic-X upscales from Clockwork’s Time Ray AP thanks to Maltruant, yet he couldn’t stop the Time Bomb. We know his power can affect it, so if he scales to Low 1-C then surely his punch would’ve done something more to it or maybe even stopped it entirely?

 

[Hellformer]

Actually thinking about it more, while it’s possible Eon was anchoring more than one timeline’s eras together, I’m not sure he was anchoring all of them.

1. Eon wasn’t capable of Low 1-C level stuff when he clashed with Ultimate Ben’s Clockwork, which is stronger than 16 year old Ben’s. While Ultimate Ben won the clash, Eon still put up a fight and it was implied he purposely lost to get sent back in time.
2. Atomic-X upscales from Clockwork’s Time Ray AP thanks to Maltruant, yet he couldn’t stop the Time Bomb. We know his power can affect it, so if he scales to Low 1-C then surely his punch would’ve done something more to it or maybe even stopped it entirely?

Uh then Atomic-X wouldn't have resistance to EE while his physicals would be impressive

 

[Omegabronic]

It’s kinda vague, but I believe Eon needed the Hands activated to free himself from the two Bens’ Omnitrices, so he wasn’t able to activate it himself.

Way Big and Ultimate Ben activating the Hands would either mean RAT Eon is relative to Ultimate Ben and slightly weaker than prime UA Eon (which is consistent with their old selves also having a power difference), or that Way Big is somewhat relative to Ultimate Ben and RAT Eon upscales from their combined power (which would then make him relative to UA Eon).

The second option would cause Way Big to be way stronger than he’s consistently portrayed as, so I lean towards the first option.

Eh, i guess? Regardless... i don't think either of them would be weaker than the other... the young Eons i mean

Also... since RAT is already an alternate timeline, could we maybe just have 1 key for his aged self? I don't think RAT Ben has anything that would make him nees to be equal to OS Ben

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Eh, i guess? Regardless... i don't think either of them would be weaker than the other... the young Eons i mean

Also... since RAT is already an alternate timeline, could we maybe just have 1 key for his aged self? I don't think RAT Ben has anything that would make him nees to be equal to OS Ben

Maybe. While RAT Ben himself is extremely similar to Ben Prime, the different lore of the plumbers and Ben’s grandmother being dead are two pretty significant changes to the timeline. Idk if different timelines should have different scaling though.

 

[Omegabronic]

Maybe. While RAT Ben himself is extremely similar to Ben Prime, the different lore of the plumbers and Ben’s grandmother being dead are two pretty significant changes to the timeline. Idk if different timelines should have different scaling though.

eh, like... then again, we don't know what happened to Eon between UA and Omniverse... so maybe he is stronger... somehow?

Still trying to wrap around my head on that early script, of Eon literally being Ben's Chronian form, so still being him... maybe that's still canon? Would explain the whole weirdness of UAFO

Edit: Wait if Young Eon is scalling to the Timestream, at least going by your current thread, shouldn't he be 1-C instead?

 

[Omegabronic]

Eh, i guess? Regardless... i don't think either of them would be weaker than the other... the young Eons i mean

Reason i say this is cause... it is about Age, so if both are equally young, they shouldn't be different

 

[Lort15]

Maybe. While RAT Ben himself is extremely similar to Ben Prime, the different lore of the plumbers and Ben’s grandmother being dead are two pretty significant changes to the timeline. Idk if different timelines should have different scaling though.

btw i have added some scans to ur eon profile

 

[Ghengiroo115]

eh, like... then again, we don't know what happened to Eon between UA and Omniverse... so maybe he is stronger... somehow?

Ben 10 characters just arbitrarily get stronger sometimes lol, considering Eon was hopping through time for an unknown amount of years I think him getting generally stronger is more believable than a lot of other characters.

Edit: Wait if Young Eon is scalling to the Timestream, at least going by your current thread, shouldn't he be 1-C instead?

I think it depends on whether he was aware of the hypertimeline at that point or just crosstime. He should know of the hypertimeline by the time he begins working with Maltruant, and maybe even by the time he got his hands on the Chrono Navigator if we take his words on seeing “every timeline and every alternate reality” literally and generously (we know it gives Paradox access to the hypertimeline, but Eon’s use of the device isn’t the best so who knows how far he can really see).

I wouldn’t be fully against him being 1-C instead of Low 1-C, however it does make Atomic-X’s showing against the Time Bomb look really awkward if we do have Atomic-X scale to Ultimate Ben.

Tbh if prime Eon is more likely 1-C (Low 1-C in the episode) and I’m missing something, I probably won’t entertain trying to upgrade all those characters to 2-A like I was considering before. I think it’d be too clunky and require quite a few assumptions.

Reason i say this is cause... it is about Age, so if both are equally young, they shouldn't be different

If his RAT aged self and main series aged self are different levels of strength, I think it would make sense if his younger versions also had a relatively small gap. Thinking about it more and considering the infinite gap between 2-A and Low 1-C, I think it’d be most reasonable to say that RAT Eon is Low 1-C and UA Eon is like a tiny bit above RAT Eon.

 

[Omegabronic]

Ben 10 characters just arbitrarily get stronger sometimes lol, considering Eon was hopping through time for an unknown amount of years I think him getting generally stronger is more believable than a lot of other characters.

Yeah, plus Omniverse Eon is clear younger than RAT Eon... so there ig lol

I think it depends on whether he was aware of the hypertimeline at that point or just crosstime. He should know of the hypertimeline by the time he begins working with Maltruant, and maybe even by the time he got his hands on the Chrono Navigator if we take his words on seeing “every timeline and every alternate reality” literally and generously (we know it gives Paradox access to the hypertimeline, but Eon’s use of the device isn’t the best so who knows how far he can really see).

I mean, i say just put him as "at least Low 1-C, possibly 1-C" and call it a day

I wouldn’t be fully against him being 1-C instead of Low 1-C, however it does make Atomic-X’s showing against the Time Bomb look really awkward if we do have Atomic-X scale to Ultimate Ben
Tbh if prime Eon is more likely 1-C (Low 1-C in the episode) and I’m missing something, I probably won’t entertain trying to upgrade all those characters to 2-A like I was considering before. I think it’d be too clunky and require quite a few assumptions.

Honestly... he shouldn't be 2-A, all cross time alternate timelines together are accepted as Low 1-A, heck, a single universe is 2-A

If his RAT aged self and main series aged self are different levels of strength, I think it would make sense if his younger versions also had a relatively small gap. Thinking about it more and considering the infinite gap between 2-A and Low 1-C, I think it’d be most reasonable to say that RAT Eon is Low 1-C and UA Eon is like a tiny bit above RAT Eon.

I say just treat both as the same and don't mention much about possible power differences, as you said, if there are any... it isn't likely to be notable

 

[Hellformer]

@Omegabronic @Ghengiroo115
If you guys are planning to upgrade Eon's absorption then kindly halt it because I have plans to upgrade the timestream and Anlg Universe to 1-B and Low 1-A respectively.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Yeah, plus Omniverse Eon is clear younger than RAT Eon... so there ig lol

True as he doesn’t seem to be almost dead like RAT Eon was implied to be, however Eon didn’t weaken super significantly throughout the movie so it probably wouldn’t make much of a difference if it was just age.

As an aside, iirc Max described Eon as suomething like “half-dead” when he first showed up on Earth 200 years ago. Since he doesn’t look that old at the beginning of the movie, I wonder if him being “half-dead” is limiting his power separately to him aging. Alternatively, him using his powers isn’t actually “aging” him at all in the typical sense but is instead causing him to deteriorate like a rotting corpse.

I mean, i say just put him as "at least Low 1-C, possibly 1-C" and call it a day

That could work. As long as there is a 1-C rating though then I ain’t trying a 2-A upgrade lol

Honestly... he shouldn't be 2-A, all cross time alternate timelines together are accepted as Low 1-A, heck, a single universe is 2-A

Initially I was giving Ultimate Ben “at most Low 1-C” for downscaling from Eon’s Low 1-C statement, but I was told that 2-A would be more accurate so I changed it to that.

I say just treat both as the same and don't mention much about possible power differences, as you said, if there are any... it isn't likely to be notable

Yeah that what I was thinking. Tbh RAT’s prime Eon would arguably fit more as either a RAT Ben key or his own profile, as he’s basically like Ghostfreak and Ben could even override Eon’s control over him.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

@Omegabronic @Ghengiroo115
If you guys are planning to upgrade Eon's absorption then kindly halt it because I have plans to upgrade the timestream and Anlg Universe to 1-B and Low 1-A respectively.

No worries, I’m still neutral on it and have other stuff I’m focusing on, so I personally wouldn’t be doing it anytime soon regardless.

 

[Adr10K]

If here's someone who speaks Portuguese, it'd be appreciated if he could translate what this youtuber said, and see if we can apply it to Ben Prime based on Rouleau's statement of the Omnitrix having resistance against Nanites.

13:34 - 15:34

 

[Adr10K]

If here's someone who speaks Portuguese, it'd be appreciated if he could translate what this youtuber said, and see if we can apply it to Ben Prime based on Rouleau's statement of the Omnitrix having resistance against Nanites.

13:34 - 15:34

I really hope I'm not misremembering, but aren't you Brazilian @jgms2008? If not, sorry lol. If you are, please help us here.

 

[jgms2008]

If here's someone who speaks Portuguese, it'd be appreciated if he could translate what this youtuber said, and see if we can apply it to Ben Prime based on Rouleau's statement of the Omnitrix having resistance against Nanites.

13:34 - 15:34

Just wait a little while, I have to leave here to go somewhere else. When I get there, I'll watch the video you sent me.
Edit : Well, sorry for the delay. From what I could see in the video, he says he did an interview with a friend to get important information to bring to his channel. One of these important pieces of information was whether Ben 10's Omnitrix has protection against Mutant Rex's nanites. Duncan confirms that both the definitive version of the Omnitrix and Reebot's have protection against nanites, since Reebot's version is protected by the DNA storage tubes. Another question I found interesting was that, thanks to the character Alpha, there are Mutant Rex nanites in the world of Ben 10 and also in the Null Void. Thanks to Alpha's presence, his nanites may have begun to spread both in the Null Void and in Ben 10's world, thus creating Rex nanites in Ben 10's world.

2 new photos · Wednesday, Jul 16, 2025 📸

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photos.app.goo.gl

 

[Adr10K]

Just wait a little while, I have to leave here to go somewhere else. When I get there, I'll watch the video you sent me.
Edit : Well, sorry for the delay. From what I could see in the video, he says he did an interview with a friend to get important information to bring to his channel. One of these important pieces of information was whether Ben 10's Omnitrix has protection against Mutant Rex's nanites. Duncan confirms that both the definitive version of the Omnitrix and Reebot's have protection against nanites, since Reebot's version is protected by the DNA storage tubes. Another question I found interesting was that, thanks to the character Alpha, there are Mutant Rex nanites in the world of Ben 10 and also in the Null Void. Thanks to Alpha's presence, his nanites may have begun to spread both in the Null Void and in Ben 10's world, thus creating Rex nanites in Ben 10's world.

2 new photos · Wednesday, Jul 16, 2025 📸

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photos.app.goo.gl

But, where does it say that the OV Omnitrix has Resistance to it as well? Because in Rouleau's statement, he refers only to the Reboot Continuity.

 

[Adr10K]

Guys, I was rewatching some OV episodes, these being the two larger multiversal war of Bens, and there's a dialogue between Vilgax and No Watch Ben that made me rise an eyebrow.

Vilgax:
-"I'm sorry. You must not realize how ridiculous that sounds. For over a decade, that whelp has prevented me from arming a legion of Omnitrix-clad minions to conquer the universe."
No Watch Ben:
- "You've been going after him for a decade? Seems like that whelp is a bit too much for you to handle."

Does this mean that Post And Then There Were None, Ben is around 20yrs old? What do u think?

 

[Ghengiroo115]

Guys, I was rewatching some OV episodes, these being the two larger multiversal war of Bens, and there's a dialogue between Vilgax and No Watch Ben that made me rise an eyebrow.

Vilgax:
-"I'm sorry. You must not realize how ridiculous that sounds. For over a decade, that whelp has prevented me from arming a legion of Omnitrix-clad minions to conquer the universe."
No Watch Ben:
- "You've been going after him for a decade? Seems like that whelp is a bit too much for you to handle."

Does this mean that Post And Then There Were None, Ben is around 20yrs old? What do u think?

Vilgax has probably just spent a long time travelling the multiverse (either that or a script error). Ben still wasn’t 17 in the first four seasons of Omniverse (Max mentions it in Store 23 iirc, and Albedo also called himself a 16 year old Ben), so I doubt there’d suddenly be a massive 4+ year time jump with no design changes or any other indication that so much time had passed.

 

[jgms2008]

But, where does it say that the OV Omnitrix has Resistance to it as well? Because in Rouleau's statement, he refers only to the Reboot Continuity.

Well, I don't know why in the video he says he asked if both the OV and Reboot Omnitrix have protection against nanites, but from what it looks like in the image he only talks/shows about the Reboot Omnitrix.

And in this part here he says that they asked about both the ov and the reboot

 

[Adr10K]

Vilgax has probably just spent a long time travelling the multiverse (either that or a script error). Ben still wasn’t 17 in the first four seasons of Omniverse (Max mentions it in Store 23 iirc, and Albedo also called himself a 16 year old Ben), so I doubt there’d suddenly be a massive 4+ year time jump with no design changes or any other indication that so much time had passed.

I mean, Vilgax clearly redwrerwd to his battles against Ben Prime, so the first option seems pretty unprovable.

But does Albedo age at all? Like, isn't he trapped forever in a specific body of Ben?

 

[Lort15]

albedo's stabilizer have self age manip

 

[Ghengiroo115]

I mean, Vilgax clearly redwrerwd to his battles against Ben Prime, so the first option seems pretty unprovable.

But does Albedo age at all? Like, isn't he trapped forever in a specific body of Ben?

I’m not sure if there’s anything else that says whether he was permanently a teenage Ben or if he ages like a human would normally. If there isn’t then him calling himself a 16 year old Ben would say it’s the latter.

 

[Adr10K]

For those who play Fortnite, I made these Ben 10 concepts since the current season is about aliens.

What'd you think? Would you like to see Ben in the game?

 

[KaramcaS]

What is this

 

[Adr10K]

What is this

A contrsdictory statement, he even stated once that the comics are canon.
By the show, they're part of the Multiverse.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

A contrsdictory statement, he even stated once that the comics are canon.
By the show, they're part of the Multiverse.

Mind letting me see the statement of them being canon?