Ben 10 General Discussion Thread

[Ghengiroo115]

In Trouble Helix, Diamondhead punched Malware so hard he went flying through the Helix, shattering it. With the Helix later showing tanking the destruction of Galvan B.

Should this be considered for a future upgrade?

For now that sounds OK. That was the secondary Helix Diamondhead destroyed so I’m not 100% sure if it would have the same durability as the primary one, but I feel like it should since Azmuth made them both and they look identical.

It’s not like it’s inconsistent or anything either. The Mechamorphs and the Helix don’t take the full force of the explosion since they’re on the surface of the moon, unlike Malware who was merged with it and basically self-destructed himself. It just means 11 year old Diamondhead scales above the Mechamorphs and their feat, which he already did thanks to Malware claiming himself superior to them.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Mechamorphs’ bodies were also basically fully intact after the explosion. They were dead, but that seemed to be more from Malware’s hax rather than the explosion’s raw power.

 

[GeneralSol16]

For now that sounds OK. That was the secondary Helix Diamondhead destroyed so I’m not 100% sure if it would have the same durability as the primary one, but I feel like it should since Azmuth made them both and they look identical.

They looked, worked, and were in exactly the same place, it was never shown to be another Helix and Albedo said that that was the primary and secondary helix

It’s not like it’s inconsistent or anything either. The Mechamorphs and the Helix don’t take the full force of the explosion since they’re on the surface of the moon, unlike Malware who was merged with it and basically self-destructed himself. It just means 11 year old Diamondhead scales above the Mechamorphs and their feat, which he already did thanks to Malware claiming himself superior to them.

I mean, the Helix was literally right next to Malware when it happened.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, the Mechamorphs’ bodies were also basically fully intact after the explosion. They were dead, but that seemed to be more from Malware’s hax rather than the explosion’s raw power.

Yeah.
But malware and the Helix weren't underground afaik, they were at frogkd level but inside the tower

 

[DemonicDude]

For now that sounds OK.

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[Reiner04]

I updated Ben 10 (Classic) category from [[Ben 10]] to [[Ben 10 (Classic)]].

@DemonicDude can you handle updating Reboot profiles category? If they have [[Ben 10]] or [[Ben 10 (Classic)]] category then update them to [[Ben 10 (Reboot)]] Category.

 

[DemonicDude]

I updated Ben 10 (Classic) category from [[Ben 10]] to [[Ben 10 (Classic)]].

@DemonicDude can you handle updating Reboot profiles category? If they have [[Ben 10]] or [[Ben 10 (Classic)]] category then update them to [[Ben 10 (Reboot)]] Category.

Girl listen I love okay.
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now that the usual stuff is out of the way. This will take time cause i'm in a tournament. Give me 5-6 days

 

[Reiner04]

Girl listen I love okay.
Mother
Mommy
now that the usual stuff is out of the way. This will take time cause i'm in a tournament. Give me 5-6 days

NP, take your time.

 

[DemonicDude]

NP, take your time.

also make a new disk-cord account i need to discuss more profile fixes, scaling, and calcs update & stuff okay.

 

[Reiner04]

I am planning to nuke a lot of stuff from Profiles.

• Concept will be downgraded to type 2.
• Info type 2 will be removed from all characters except Omnitrix itself.
• Anything related to Non-existence or White Void.
• Entire Dagon Arc will be back to considered as inconsistent in terms of Powerscaling from combatt feats perspective (statement scaling will be applicable)
• A new scaling chain discussion rule that divides Ben 10 characters (to resolves inconsistency) into:
  • God Tiers: Alien X, Dagon, Ascalon, Worthy characters with Ascalon, Ultimate Waybig (shall not be scaled to anyone below themselves).
  • High Tiers: UA Aggregor, Waybig, UA Kevin, Anodites, lucubra Vilgax (Can be scaled to anyone not God Tier as long as they have feats or showing to be comparable to them, be it in speed, strength or LS aspect (each aspect must have showing of being comparable))
  • Mid Tiers: Can be scaled to High Tiers in aspects the Mid Tiers are known for. For example Humungosaur is known for strength so he can scale to high tiers in strength if he has showing of being comparable, but not in other aspects.
    • Mid Tiers also includes characters who excell the other mid tiers in strength, speed and combatt but yet do not scale to High Tiers: Vilgax, Diamondhead, Chromastone, etc.
    • Characters can only scale to High Tiers in any aspect as long as it doesn't contradict the plot, if it does they shouldn't. Example: Humungasour scaling to UA Aggregor should be considered inconsistent.
  • Average: Do not scale to anyone above and only scale to their own or other Average Tier characters direct feats. Example: Ben, Spidermonkey, Echo Echo, Ditto, etc.

 

[KaramcaS]

• God Tiers:
• High Tiers:
• Mid Tiers:
• Average:

 

[Lort15]

I am planning to nuke a lot of stuff from Profiles.

• Concept will be downgraded to type 2.
• Info type 2 will be removed from all characters except Omnitrix itself.
• Anything related to Non-existence or White Void.
• Entire Dagon Arc will be back to considered as inconsistent in terms of Powerscaling from combatt feats perspective (statement scaling will be applicable)
• A new scaling chain discussion rule that divides Ben 10 characters (to resolves inconsistency) into:
  • God Tiers: Alien X, Dagon, Ascalon, Worthy characters with Ascalon, Ultimate Waybig (shall not be scaled to anyone below themselves).
  • High Tiers: UA Aggregor, Waybig, UA Kevin, Anodites, lucubra Vilgax (Can be scaled to anyone not God Tier as long as they have feats or showing to be comparable to them, be it in speed, strength or LS aspect (each aspect must have showing of being comparable))
  • Mid Tiers: Can be scaled to High Tiers in aspects the Mid Tiers are known for. For example Humungosaur is known for strength so he can scale to high tiers in strength if he has showing of being comparable, but not in other aspects.
    • Mid Tiers also includes characters who excell the other mid tiers in strength, speed and combatt but yet do not scale to High Tiers: Vilgax, Diamondhead, Chromastone, etc.
    • Characters can only scale to High Tiers in any aspect as long as it doesn't contradict the plot, if it does they shouldn't. Example: Humungasour scaling to UA Aggregor should be considered inconsistent.
  • Average: Do not scale to anyone above and only scale to their own or other Average Tier characters direct feats. Example: Ben, Spidermonkey, Echo Echo, Ditto, etc.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

I am planning to nuke a lot of stuff from Profiles.

• Concept will be downgraded to type 2.

• Info type 2 will be removed from all characters except Omnitrix itself.

Well i think sure

• Anything related to Non-existence or White Void.

What do you mean?

• Entire Dagon Arc will be back to considered as inconsistent in terms of Powerscaling from combatt feats perspective (statement scaling will be applicable)

So Sir George would be above Ultimate Humungousaur?

 

[Reiner04]

So Sir George would be above Ultimate Humungousaur?

Yup.

 

[Reiner04]

Anodites, Sir George, Lucubra Vilgax, they won't scale to anyone but someone within their realm of power.

 

[GeneralSol16]

Anodites, Sir George, Lucubra Vilgax, they won't scale to anyone but someone within their realm of power.

I don't think Anodites should be on the same tier as Ascalon levels.

 

[Reiner04]

I don't think Anodites should be on the same tier as Ascalon levels.

What is ur opinion on how should they be divided? I made a rough draft of idea but didn't put a much thoughts on characters in each.

 

[Reiner04]

Btw, 4 more days b4 new comics drop

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

I don't think Anodites should be on the same tier as Ascalon levels.

They would scales to Sir George not Ascalon, whoever i think Gwen should be only one scales to it

 

[GeneralSol16]

I am planning to nuke a lot of stuff from Profiles.

• Concept will be downgraded to type 2.

Huh? Why? Especially as space time things are related to the true names shit too.

• Info type 2 will be removed from all characters except Omnitrix itself.

I genuinely don't know how you could do that while we have the God Code

• Entire Dagon Arc will be back to considered as inconsistent in terms of Powerscaling from combatt feats perspective (statement scaling will be applicable)

What do you mean?

• A new scaling chain discussion rule that divides Ben 10 characters (to resolves inconsistency) into:

That should have always been like that.

• • God Tiers: Alien X, Celestialaapiens, Paradox.

They should have their own tier no matter what.

• • Top Tiers: Dagon, Lucubra Vilgax, amped Eatle, Ascalon, Worthy characters with Ascalon, Atomix, Way Big, Ultimate Waybig (shall not be scaled to anyone below themselves).

They're least considered the strongest of all, so sure.
But base Way Big, Eatle and Atomix should be there.

• • High Tiers: UA Aggregor, , UA Kevin, Anodites, (Can be scaled to anyone not God Tier as long as they have feats or showing to be comparable to them, be it in speed, strength or LS aspect (each aspect must have showing of being comparable))

Anodite Gwen should not be on the same tier as Way Big.

• • Mid Tiers: Can be scaled to High Tiers in aspects the Mid Tiers are known for. For example Humungosaur is known for strength so he can scale to high tiers in strength if he has showing of being comparable, but not in other aspects.
    • Mid Tiers also includes characters who excell the other mid tiers in strength, speed and combatt but yet do not scale to High Tiers: Vilgax, Diamondhead, Chromastone, etc.
    • Characters can only scale to High Tiers in any aspect as long as it doesn't contradict the plot, if it does they shouldn't. Example: Humungasour scaling to UA Aggregor should be considered inconsistent.
  • Average: Do not scale to anyone above and only scale to their own or other Average Tier characters direct feats. Example: Ben, Spidermonkey, Echo Echo, Ditto, etc.

Sure.

 

[Reiner04]

Huh? Why? Especially as space time things are related to the true names shit too.

I genuinely don't know how you could do that while we have the God Code

What do you mean?

That should have always been like that.

They should have their own tier no matter what.

They're least considered the strongest of all, so sure.
But base Way Big, Eatle and Atomix should be there.

Anodite Gwen should not be on the same tier as Way Big.

Sure.

Well yeah, i originally had the 5 divisions too but momentarily forgor how

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Why we again would make Gwen lower than Sir George? Since Sir George almost repel her mana blast.

 

[PokiestPoker]

Hello everyone, i have a question

Should Vilgax have Power Nullification via these headbands in The Episode Primus that prevented Gwen and Kevin from using their powers?

 

[DemonicDude]

Hello everyone, i have a question

Should Vilgax have Power Nullification via these headbands in The Episode Primus that prevented Gwen and Kevin from using their powers?

Reiner would look fine as hell in those headbands

 

[Lort15]

Hello everyone, i have a question

Should Vilgax have Power Nullification via these headbands in The Episode Primus that prevented Gwen and Kevin from using their powers?

Seems okay

 

[PokiestPoker]

Seems okay

The only issue is we never see him directly put the headbands on the trio, the scene in the episode cuts from ben surrendering to vilgax to them in the headbands, but i dont think it's unreasonable to think he just placed it on them offscreen.

 

[DemonicDude]

The only issue is we never see him directly put the headbands on the trio, the scene in the episode cuts from ben surrendering to them in the headbands, but i dont think it's unreasonable to think he just placed it on them offscreen

give him ropes too.
probably stole it from Reiner

 

[Lort15]

The only issue is we never see him directly put the headbands on the trio, the scene in the episode cuts from ben surrendering to vilgax to them in the headbands, but i dont think it's unreasonable to think he just placed it on them offscreen.

You don't need too, it is clearly Vilgax he was the one who captured them

 

[PokiestPoker]

You don't need too, it is clearly Vilgax he was the one who captured them

Alright, do i need to make a CRT for this? This is the first time i've ever used the forums so idk how adding stuff works exactly.

 

[DemonicDude]

Alright, do i need to make a CRT for this? This is the first time i've ever used the forums so idk how adding stuff works exactly.

yes crt.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Alright, do i need to make a CRT for this? This is the first time i've ever used the forums so idk how adding stuff works exactly.

You would need at least two staffs agree with it

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[DemonicDude]

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[Ultimate-Rex1]

Ok, let see now:
Fourarms:

Heatblast:

Vilgax

 

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[57Dev]

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[Ghengiroo115]

Entire Dagon Arc will be back to considered as inconsistent in terms of Powerscaling from combatt feats perspective (statement scaling will be applicable)

The characters would still downscale since Way Big > Eatle and Ultimate Kevin has Way Big’s DNA, however:

Do you think Ultimate Humungousaur could still at least scale to Ascalon’s planetary feat? Ben not only sees Ascalon destroy the planet with his own eyes but also previously got destroyed by George when using base Humungousaur, yet still used Ultimate Humungousaur believing he’d be capable of fighting George. Ben also heard George threaten not to hold back once he learnt the stakes, so he’d be preparing for a proper fight. Even if George was more powerful than Ben thought, Ben wouldn’t use an alien unless he believed it was capable of fighting something like Ascalon.

Tbh I feel like if George was really so high above Ultimate Humungousaur he would’ve casually no-low diffed him the same way he did to the trio earlier, but meh

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

First Dynamite calc!

 

[Lort15]

First Dynamite calc!

no way

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

no way

It's a start
But jokes aside the next issues will probably have better feats, i just had an urge to calc something immediately

 

[57Dev]

Ah so it begins. Brings a tear to my eye. Also why is there a random cyborg bear in the forest just chillin.

If we count changes from the original -

1. Vilgax isn't on life support (yet). He is also very far away and seems to be sending some one in. Six Six ? Tetrax maybe ?

2. Military involvement. It seems the government is aware and prepared for alien cases.

3. Gwen is a alien conspiracy theorist. While their personalities are the same, it seems Ben has trouble back at home and his parents are a sensitive topic.

4. Grandpa Max isn't eating weird gross stuff, (yet). But I hope they keep that gag.

 

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[DemonicDude]

First Dynamite calc!

OMG
thought u were gonna calc Omnitrix falling from orbit (aka Omnitrix durability).