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But why does
"His strength only increase with size" mean
"For every 10x he grows he gets 10x stronger"
If he got 5x stronger from 2x bigger it would be just as true
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Ben 10 5-A/High 5-A Scaling Error
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But why does
"His strength only increase with size" mean
"For every 10x he grows he gets 10x stronger"
If he got 5x stronger from 2x bigger it would be just as true
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Do you mean why his strength increases tenfold in Ultimate form or Full-size?
Mean that Regular Humungousaur increases his own size from 10/12 feet to 60 feet (so is at least five times) which increases his strength by 5 times.
What statement mean here is that Regular Humungousaur will increase his size 5 times which means his strength will be increase 5 times.
increase his size=increase his strength
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So when he got 5x bigger there's a statement he was 5x stronger?
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Yeah that's the one I know about
That doesn't say that the increase is directly proportional to increase in height
Heck why would it be? Power comes from mass not height
If he grows 5x bigger he gets 125x more volume
Why are you assuming height = power 1:1
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That's because his strength is correlated with his increase in height to be specific, taking in account the Volume factor would be highly inconsistent, considering other heavy hitters like waybig who is way stronger than full sized Humungousaur also doesn't have that high multiplier. So via occam's razor we can deduce that taking height into consideration would make more sense to make things simple.
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I'm not sure I understand
What does Waybig have to do with it?
I am asking why his strength is correlated with his height and not weight or volume, and heck, how do we know it's 1:1 (i.e. twice as big = twice as strong) for all we know he could double in size and quadruple in strength
Unless I am missing something Obvious
Hellformer
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Waybig is physically superior to all of Ben's aliens (except Alien X and Atomix). That's what my point is and I've explained you the reasoning.
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I suppose I can ask some calc group members if the multiplier is justified.
@Dalesean027 @Damage3245 Does growing 5 times larger warrant a 5x multiplier going by site standards?
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Not inherently. Our multiplier standards says:
So we need evidence regarding whether the multiplier applies to specific statistics.
If there was a statement along the lines of "When character A gets twice as big, he gets twice as strong" then it'd make sense.
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His strength increasing with size isn't an exact multiplier though. We can rate him as "higher" for his larger sized forms, but we can't multiply AP by size increments.
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Just nuke it.
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His AP is coming from his strength
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Yeah I wouldn't say this works for what you're wanting to do here
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This is currently a Q & A thread; should it be changed to a CRT so this bit of scaling can be ammended? Or will you create a new thread @Maverick_Zero_X ?
Hellformer
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If you're demanding a new thread then I'll cover this topic in my rescaling thread
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Went ahead since this Multiplier is apparently blatantly wrong
Humungousaur Multiplier Removal
Currently, Humungousaur is accepted as being five times stronger in his enlarged state due to growing five times his standard size. However, this doesn't align with the standards outlined by our Multipliers page. One should also consider which statistic a multiplier applies to. If a character...
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It feels good having someone knoweldgable agree with me here
I felt insane when everyone seemed to agree "We are from an incalcuable dimension" meant "We are from a dimension with uncountably infinite spacial dimensions" and that him getting stronger when bigger means we can use the height he grows as a multipler, when his volume/mass would increase x^3 times (x being the amount of times bigger he got height wise), so it makes no sense anyway
There is no statement showing he grows stronger proportionately to his height, so I think "higher" works
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