Ben 10,000 vs Saitama (0-0-0)

[09Kayson09]

Ben 10,000

Vs.

Saitama

Rules:


1 - Both 4-A

2 - Ben 10K from the main timeline will be used (His omniverse version will be used in the battle)

3 - Ben 10K ''With Aliens'' key will be used

4 - Saitama Post-Balding key will be used

5 - Speed equalized

6 - Battle took place in Z-City

Hero of Heroes: 0

Caped Baldy: 0

Icon:

 

[Lort15]

Atomic x black hole gg

 

[Arkansalter2]

Clockwork.

 

[MrTayman616]

Atomic x black hole gg

Would Saitama be affected by a Black Hole? Garou was completely unaffected by it.

 

[Lort15]

Would Saitama be affected by a Black Hole? Garou was completely unaffected by it.

Can saitama copy resistance/immunities that garou has? If it is like that sure but then there is clockwork i don't think saitama have something to do against low complex multiversal BFR + Timestop

 

[MrTayman616]

Can saitama copy resistance/immunities that garou has? If it is like that sure but then there is clockwork i don't think saitama have something to do against low complex multiversal BFR + Timestop

Garou couldn't find a way to beat Saitama even though he can create Black Holes, he also perfectly copied Saitama's strength durability etc. Though Saitama himself didn't show a feat of surviving a black hole, "possibly" would suit it i guess?

Saitama doesn't have any resistance for time stop or anything 5-D related.

 

[MrTayman616]

Can saitama copy resistance/immunities that garou has? If it is like that sure but then there is clockwork i don't think saitama have something to do against low complex multiversal BFR + Timestop

Do Aliens scale to baseline 4-A?

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Do Aliens scale to baseline 4-A?

No, they scales to 45.7621 TeraFoe

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yeah Saitama is NOT hanging out with Clockwork.

 

[MrTayman616]

Yeah Saitama is NOT hanging out with Clockwork.

This is true. Which alien he starts with though?

No, they scales to 45.7621 TeraFoe

Then Saitama one shots any alien, no? I think Saitama has a huge advantage here, he just one shots him. Ben has to choose a very specific alien or two to win.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Then Saitama one shots any alien, no? I think Saitama has a huge advantage here, he just one shots him. Ben has to choose a very specific alien or two to win.

Atomix has possibly Regeneration Low-Godly due to powers of Alien X. Omnitrix can heal (Low-Godly) Ben after any damage by Saitama

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

This is true. Which alien he starts with though?

Sometimes he starts with Atomix

 

[Arkansalter2]

This is true. Which alien he starts with though?

He can start with any alien. The thing is, the Omnitrix gives him the perfect alien for the situation. Which is including Clockwork.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Sometimes he starts with Atomix

Despite this, Omnitrix may change it to the right alien to fight against Saitama. Omnitrix has immeasurable reaction and transformation speed via failsafe, so Saitama wouldn't be able to speedblitzing Omnitrix

 

[GeneralSol16]

Atomix has possibly Regeneration Low-Godly due to powers of Alien X. Omnitrix can heal (Low-Godly) Ben after any damage by Saitama

Atomic-X doesn't scale to Alien X in any way or form.

And you're right there, The Omnitrix can heal Ben from any injury, but this Ben has the Biomnitrix, which means there's no proof for it to be as powerful and technological advanced as the Official Omnitrix, something that is supported by the series.

Saitama should win this via being a Ben with stronger aliens, but a weaker Omnitrix.

 

[MrTayman616]

Atomix has possibly Regeneration Low-Godly due to powers of Alien X. Omnitrix can heal (Low-Godly) Ben after any damage by Saitama

He's transfromed and knocked out after that. Which would be losing in a situation like this, no?

Omnitrix has Immeasurable reaction and transformation speed via failsafe

I don't think failsafe will even be used in this fight no?

 

[Arkansalter2]

I don't think failsafe will even be used in this fight no?

Failsafe is performed automatically so it will.

 

[GeneralSol16]

This is true. Which alien he starts with though?

Atomic-X.
This Ben doesn't have the feature of auto selection either.

 

[GeneralSol16]

He's transfromed and knocked out after that. Which would be losing in a situation like this, no?

Ben doesn't go by K.O.
He can be knocked out sure, but throughout the franchise he always gets up immediately even when one shot by way stronger opponents in a matter of seconds or minutes.

 

[MrTayman616]

...So this fight is either stomp for Saitama or Stomp for Ben?

 

[Arkansalter2]

...So this fight is either stomp for Saitama or Stomp for Ben?

All based on what alien Ben picks first.

 

[GeneralSol16]

...So this fight is either stomp for Saitama or Stomp for Ben?

I'd go for Saitama.
This Ben won't pick Clockwork fast enough, and Saitama will casually blow him to bits with a good punch.

Like I said, a physically stronger Ben but with a less advanced Omnitrix and less aliens to play with.

Maybe I'll redo this with Ben Prime, who is stronger.

 

[GeneralSol16]

This was a reminder of how much I hate OV Ben 10K gimmick, we could have the definitive version of Ben, a Ben 10K with the Definitive Omnitrix, all its failsavea, but with a better controlled Master Control.

Curse u, Omniverse.

Edit: Until Atomic-X gets upgraded to a level way above Ben's regular aliens, then this opinion may chance, it may not.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Atomic-X doesn't scale to Alien X in any way or form.

He has in his profile

• Likely other unknown abilities of Atomix and Alien X

And you're right there, The Omnitrix can heal Ben from any injury, but this Ben has the Biomnitrix, which means there's no proof for it to be as powerful and technological advanced as the Official Omnitrix, something that is supported by the series.

Ben 10K has Omnitrix and Biomnitrix?

 

[GeneralSol16]

He has in his profile

He only has "unknown abilities", not enough.

Ben 10K has Omnitrix and Biomnitrix?

Original Ben 10K has the Prototype Omnitrix, which doesn't scale to Official Omnitrix, and Omniverse Ben 10K has the Biomnitrix, which doesn't scale to the Official one either.

 

[Lort15]

...So this fight is either stomp for Saitama or Stomp for Ben?

In my opinion ben won't transform into clockwork in the first place but an alien can get one shotted by saitama and saitama is likely to kill so that would trigger failsafe ( i remember him one shotting some monsters to test his Strength so he doesn't really much care about monsters familiar to Ben's aliens correct me if i'm wrong) so the failsafe would heal ben and transforms him into Clockwork then BFR+Timestop

 

[GeneralSol16]

In my opinion ben won't transform into clockwork in the first place but an alien can get one shotted by saitama and saitama is likely to kill so that would trigger failsafe ( i remember him one shotting some monsters to test his Strength so he doesn't really much care about monsters familiar to Ben's aliens correct me if i'm wrong) so the failsafe would heal ben and transforms him into Clockwork then BFR+Timestop

Ben doesn't have a failsafe.

 

[Lort15]

Ben doesn't have a failsafe.

How so? I know biomnitrix is less advenced but that doesn't really mean it doesn't have the failsafe ability

 

[GeneralSol16]

How so? I know biomnitrix is less advenced but that doesn't really mean it doesn't have the failsafe ability

If there's no single proof of having it, and was affected by things the Omnitrix has endured, then there's no way to scale it.

 

[Lort15]

If there's no single proof of having it, and was affected by things the Omnitrix has endured, then there's no way to scale it.

ben made the omnitrix with his most intelligence forms aka brainstorm and grey matter also ben is aware from the failsafe function it's possibly, likely rating for failsafe well most likely ben might not add the functions he never achieved before so this might be why this is less advenced also

 

[Epiccheev]

RIpjaws gg

 

[Lort15]

RIpjaws gg

Nahhhh

 

[GeneralSol16]

ben made the omnitrix with his most intelligence forms aka brainstorm and grey matter also ben is aware from the failsafe function it's possibly, likely rating for failsafe well most likely ben might not add the functions he never achieved before so this might be why this is less advenced also

If not shown, it's speculation.

A Possibly rating may work, but not a solid one.

 

[Lort15]

If not shown, it's speculation.

A Possibly rating may work, but not a solid one.

possibly and likely ratings are allowed in the matchs as long as it is not restricted

 

[GeneralSol16]

possibly and likely ratings are allowed in the matchs as long as it is not restricted

I proposed it, but is is not on the profile.

 

[Lort15]

I proposed it, but is is not on the profile.

also the failsafe not being in the biomnitrix isn't listed so the profile is going by with which other omnitrixes have that includes failsafe + yours is also speculation we don't have any confirmed info about biomnitrix not having failsafe

 

[GeneralSol16]

also the failsafe not being in the biomnitrix isn't listed so the profile is going by with which other omnitrixes have that includes failsafe + yours is also speculation we don't have any confirmed info about biomnitrix not having failsafe

We don't have any info on it having it either, lol.
The Official Omnitrix is the strongest and most advance, is like power scaling someone who is unspecifically way stronger than any other character.

 

[Lort15]

We don't have any info on it having it either, lol.
The Official Omnitrix is the strongest and most advance, is like power scaling someone who is unspecifically way stronger than any other character.

I don't really need to repeat my argument here, the failsafe is still counted in the match so my point still stands, this match is a stomp Saitama doesn't have anything against low godly heal, Timestop and low complex multiversal BFR

 

[GeneralSol16]

I don't really need to repeat my argument here, the failsafe is still counted in the match so my point still stands, this match is a stomp Saitama doesn't have anything against low godly heal, Timestop and low complex multiversal BFR

Why would the failsafe be counted? The Biomnitrix doesn't have anything close to it.

 

[Lort15]

Why would the failsafe be counted? The Biomnitrix doesn't have anything close to it.

We are going by profiles as you say and the profile doesn't have any note about biomnitrix not having failsafe or not i told you the reason why there is a possibly or likely reasons to be Biomnitrix have failsafe besides ultimatrix is an also less advenced device but that doesn't mean it doesn't have failsafe the low godly feat is actually coming from it less advenced means a lot of things but that doesn't make it not having an ability from omnitrix automatically, for this it's need to be noted in the profile