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Bayonetta's Witch Time

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1. Time slow looks the same via numerous applications, some not even being tied to time manipulation

2. What are these sources?

3. That's light speed

4. How does time manipulation make improve your physical senses? How does it make you stronger?

5. Smash is irrelevant
 
Dunno if this is correct but just copying and pasting the WT quote into google leads to Japanese Smash Bros Bayonetta wiki thing but they could've taken the translation from the Bayonetta game.
 
Smash merely re-states everything we already know, I don't see the issue whatsoever. I already showed the fallacy with dismissing it. Cell is accepted as Solar System level because every source, including manga, anime, guidebooks, website, episode recaps, and videogames say he can. This is no different.
 
Yep let's get back to the debunking. As we said so before Smash is not canon. Why are you guys still using it?
 
Matter of fact, if Bayo can control how finely she slows time, why would she need to amp herself?

She'd be at "normal speed" while everything else is slower than her. She wouldn't need to increase her physical stats to match her new perceptions. Doesn't make any sense.

This is the superhuman drug that Mayuri gave to Szayelaporro all over again.
 
Unite My Rice said:
1. Time slow looks the same via numerous applications, some not even being tied to time manipulation
2. What are these sources?

3. That's light speed

4. How does time manipulation make improve your physical senses? How does it make you stronger?

5. Smash is irrelevant
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1. A spade is just a spade until provided evidence.


2. The actual source you keep posting as a "Gotcha" says it is Time Manipulation.

3. Same technique, different thing. Hazelnuts and filberts.

4. Time Manipulation slows time.

5. Already debunked why this instant dismissal isn't valid debating.
 
@Dragon ye you right, I deleted my previous comment and just "@" him instead.
 
We also went from planetary witch time to unknown to cross universal

Not a single shred of evidence in sight either
Booker t laughing meme
 
> That description says she manipulates time, but you are all seeing to ignore this.

Where?
 
Ok going to bed now

I seriously hope there will be no flame war...
 
Okay guys, we need to cool it.

We shouldn't be mocking each other over this, especially since almost everyone here is a Staff member. We're supposed to be above this.

I'm inclined to agree with Weekly. There's nothing worthwhile in the story that implies that Witch Time is anything but Time Slow when there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that it is in fact Time Slow.
 
@Kep

"Where"

Here:

As "Overseers of History," they possessed the ability to literally see everything in an instant, also known as Temporal Control

>also known as T e m p o r a l c o n t r o l

"Temporal Control requires a sound body and mind, and complete grasp of Spirit Energy. While quite similar, the witches and sages each practiced this art differently, leading to different names for their respective techniques, Witch Time and Light Speed."

>Temporal Control

"Witch Time... It seems that the witches on this earth fell victim to our world's passage of time and vanished into the abyss of eternity."

>Antonio finished his talk about temporal control by making an ironic comment about how the witches fell pray to time despite being able to control it.

Making yourself faster is not temporal control
 
@Kep "Temporal Control" can mean time manipulation but that doesn't automatically mean time slow tho
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Bayo can affect the real world with witch time while she's in purgatorio
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Can you show the scene with this? I believe in you but if you show it, than Witch Time range becomes 2-C.
 
Names don't mean anything. Light Speed doesn't activate at the speed of light.

Manipulating your own time to make yourself faster is Temporal Control, yes.
 
But that is pure headcanon, my man. Never does it state you do that. You pulled that out of thin air to be polite about it.

It states that they have temporal control, which enables them to enter a state where everything is slowed down to a crawl, and other sources refer to it as Time Manipulation.

Ergo, it is Time Slow.
 
Unite My Rice said:
We also went from planetary witch time to unknown to cross universal

Not a single shred of evidence to either
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She can affect the human world with witch time while shes in paradiso, i gave you two or three scans to this already
 
@Kep

You still haven't explained how higher-class Angels are able to ignore the effects of Witch Time if Bayonetta is just speeding herself up.
 
ALRF said:
Nothing says about it being from Smash though
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Srry misread someone else points. Anyways so the date of that article was the date Smash came out, they definitely got it from Smash, not a Bayo game.
 
Making a recap:

Enhanced senses

Antonio's book (which uses ancient witch records and logical assumptions which are completely valid and work out to be true in-game)

"As "Overseers of History," they possessed the ability to literally see everything in an instant, also known as Temporal Control. (Here comes the actual description of witch time)This technique sharpened all of the five senses, and pushed one's emotional energy to its very limits. It is a world where a falling drop of water can become a crown, and a humming-bird slowly and elegantly flaps its wings. Temporal Control is not just simply being able to recognize this world, it also enables one to boost their physical abilities and move freely within that single moment.(edited)"

Lumen and Umbra Statues

"Experience a hyper-sensitive state! Move with incredible speed via this unbelievable technique!"

Game cover: Push your senses to their limit !

Time slow evidence:

Smash

Gameplay that would look the same with many other abilities, yet has backing from two internal sources

Counterarguments
 
Reppuzan said:
@Kep
You still haven't explained how higher-class Angels are able to ignore the effects of Witch Time if Bayonetta is just speeding herself up.
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Speed Amp Theory = 100% destroyed
 
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