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Bayonetta's Witch Time
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> It's from Smash.
Thread isn't over at all. Back to debunking.
Thread isn't over at all. Back to debunking.
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1. Time slow looks the same via numerous applications, some not even being tied to time manipulation
2. What are these sources?
3. That's light speed
4. How does time manipulation make improve your physical senses? How does it make you stronger?
5. Smash is irrelevant
2. What are these sources?
3. That's light speed
4. How does time manipulation make improve your physical senses? How does it make you stronger?
5. Smash is irrelevant
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Dunno if this is correct but just copying and pasting the WT quote into google leads to Japanese Smash Bros Bayonetta wiki thing but they could've taken the translation from the Bayonetta game.
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Not from Smash actually.
Both Bayonetta and Smash use it
https://www12.atwiki.jp/bayonetta/pages/87.html#id_37431fe7
Both Bayonetta and Smash use it
https://www12.atwiki.jp/bayonetta/pages/87.html#id_37431fe7
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Smash merely re-states everything we already know, I don't see the issue whatsoever. I already showed the fallacy with dismissing it. Cell is accepted as Solar System level because every source, including manga, anime, guidebooks, website, episode recaps, and videogames say he can. This is no different.
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Yep let's get back to the debunking. As we said so before Smash is not canon. Why are you guys still using it?
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nvm these threads are too fast
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I doubt this has no meaning.ALRF said:
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> Restates what we alredy know
> Goes against Antonio's description
> Goes against Antonio's description
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Matter of fact, if Bayo can control how finely she slows time, why would she need to amp herself?
She'd be at "normal speed" while everything else is slower than her. She wouldn't need to increase her physical stats to match her new perceptions. Doesn't make any sense.
This is the superhuman drug that Mayuri gave to Szayelaporro all over again.
She'd be at "normal speed" while everything else is slower than her. She wouldn't need to increase her physical stats to match her new perceptions. Doesn't make any sense.
This is the superhuman drug that Mayuri gave to Szayelaporro all over again.
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Bayo can affect the real world with witch time while she's in purgatorio
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Thread re-over.ALRF said:
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Unite My Rice said:
1. A spade is just a spade until provided evidence.
2. The actual source you keep posting as a "Gotcha" says it is Time Manipulation.
3. Same technique, different thing. Hazelnuts and filberts.
4. Time Manipulation slows time.
5. Already debunked why this instant dismissal isn't valid debating.
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@ALRF
you do realize that blog says it got that from Smash no?
you do realize that blog says it got that from Smash no?
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Assuming you meant to comment something, be careful, there is a glitch in which makes your text disappear when quoting.Thebluedash said:
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Not re-over until someone proves it's in the game.
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WeeklyBattles said:
This is 2-C Range for Witch Time. Sauce?
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@Dragon ye you right, I deleted my previous comment and just "@" him instead.
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That description says she manipulates time, but you are all seeing to ignore this.Kepekley23 said:
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Thread re-opened.Thebluedash said:
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We also went from planetary witch time to unknown to cross universal
Not a single shred of evidence in sight either
Not a single shred of evidence in sight either
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Also that Japanese source says nothing of Smash.
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> That description says she manipulates time, but you are all seeing to ignore this.
Where?
Where?
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Okay guys, we need to cool it.
We shouldn't be mocking each other over this, especially since almost everyone here is a Staff member. We're supposed to be above this.
I'm inclined to agree with Weekly. There's nothing worthwhile in the story that implies that Witch Time is anything but Time Slow when there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that it is in fact Time Slow.
We shouldn't be mocking each other over this, especially since almost everyone here is a Staff member. We're supposed to be above this.
I'm inclined to agree with Weekly. There's nothing worthwhile in the story that implies that Witch Time is anything but Time Slow when there's an overwhelming amount of evidence that it is in fact Time Slow.
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This has been on fire for a while now.ALRF said:
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@Kep
"Where"
Here:
As "Overseers of History," they possessed the ability to literally see everything in an instant, also known as Temporal Control
>also known as T e m p o r a l c o n t r o l
"Temporal Control requires a sound body and mind, and complete grasp of Spirit Energy. While quite similar, the witches and sages each practiced this art differently, leading to different names for their respective techniques, Witch Time and Light Speed."
>Temporal Control
"Witch Time... It seems that the witches on this earth fell victim to our world's passage of time and vanished into the abyss of eternity."
>Antonio finished his talk about temporal control by making an ironic comment about how the witches fell pray to time despite being able to control it.
Making yourself faster is not temporal control
"Where"
Here:
As "Overseers of History," they possessed the ability to literally see everything in an instant, also known as Temporal Control
>also known as T e m p o r a l c o n t r o l
"Temporal Control requires a sound body and mind, and complete grasp of Spirit Energy. While quite similar, the witches and sages each practiced this art differently, leading to different names for their respective techniques, Witch Time and Light Speed."
>Temporal Control
"Witch Time... It seems that the witches on this earth fell victim to our world's passage of time and vanished into the abyss of eternity."
>Antonio finished his talk about temporal control by making an ironic comment about how the witches fell pray to time despite being able to control it.
Making yourself faster is not temporal control
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@Kep "Temporal Control" can mean time manipulation but that doesn't automatically mean time slow tho
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Can you show the scene with this? I believe in you but if you show it, than Witch Time range becomes 2-C.WeeklyBattles said:
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Names don't mean anything. Light Speed doesn't activate at the speed of light.
Manipulating your own time to make yourself faster is Temporal Control, yes.
Manipulating your own time to make yourself faster is Temporal Control, yes.
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But that is pure headcanon, my man. Never does it state you do that. You pulled that out of thin air to be polite about it.
It states that they have temporal control, which enables them to enter a state where everything is slowed down to a crawl, and other sources refer to it as Time Manipulation.
Ergo, it is Time Slow.
It states that they have temporal control, which enables them to enter a state where everything is slowed down to a crawl, and other sources refer to it as Time Manipulation.
Ergo, it is Time Slow.
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She can affect the human world with witch time while shes in paradiso, i gave you two or three scans to this alreadyUnite My Rice said:
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@Weekly
Can you please repost it?
Can you please repost it?
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Srry misread someone else points. Anyways so the date of that article was the date Smash came out, they definitely got it from Smash, not a Bayo game.ALRF said:
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Making a recap:
Enhanced senses
Antonio's book (which uses ancient witch records and logical assumptions which are completely valid and work out to be true in-game)
"As "Overseers of History," they possessed the ability to literally see everything in an instant, also known as Temporal Control. (Here comes the actual description of witch time)This technique sharpened all of the five senses, and pushed one's emotional energy to its very limits. It is a world where a falling drop of water can become a crown, and a humming-bird slowly and elegantly flaps its wings. Temporal Control is not just simply being able to recognize this world, it also enables one to boost their physical abilities and move freely within that single moment.(edited)"
Lumen and Umbra Statues
"Experience a hyper-sensitive state! Move with incredible speed via this unbelievable technique!"
Game cover: Push your senses to their limit !
Time slow evidence:
Smash
Gameplay that would look the same with many other abilities, yet has backing from two internal sources
Counterarguments
Enhanced senses
Antonio's book (which uses ancient witch records and logical assumptions which are completely valid and work out to be true in-game)
"As "Overseers of History," they possessed the ability to literally see everything in an instant, also known as Temporal Control. (Here comes the actual description of witch time)This technique sharpened all of the five senses, and pushed one's emotional energy to its very limits. It is a world where a falling drop of water can become a crown, and a humming-bird slowly and elegantly flaps its wings. Temporal Control is not just simply being able to recognize this world, it also enables one to boost their physical abilities and move freely within that single moment.(edited)"
Lumen and Umbra Statues
"Experience a hyper-sensitive state! Move with incredible speed via this unbelievable technique!"
Game cover: Push your senses to their limit !
Time slow evidence:
Smash
Gameplay that would look the same with many other abilities, yet has backing from two internal sources
Counterarguments
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https://youtu.be/o_BZ8XUXdms?t=1147
This is one, I dont have access to YouTube as im at work right now so I do don't know exactly which of the others is the one im looking for but its the feat of her fight with Saipentia
This is one, I dont have access to YouTube as im at work right now so I do don't know exactly which of the others is the one im looking for but its the feat of her fight with Saipentia
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Speed Amp Theory = 100% destroyedReppuzan said:
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