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Bayonetta vs. Sakuya Izayoi
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Even with resistant to time manipulation time erasure should OHKO Bayonetta. Bayonetta can also OHKO Sakuya. In normal circumstances this would be a hax stomp but...
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Is it in-character for Sakuya to lead with her time manip?
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^ Yes.
In spell card battles Sakuya isn't really able to use her abilities to their fullest extent, but otherwise..
In spell card battles Sakuya isn't really able to use her abilities to their fullest extent, but otherwise..
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It gets pretty BS basically and it's why everyone dislikes Touhou, no question there.
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It mostly depends on who activates it first and who can kill first.
I give it to Bayonetta due to her soul manipulation with Chernobog and Bazillions.
I give it to Bayonetta due to her soul manipulation with Chernobog and Bazillions.
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How quickly can Sakuya activate her time manip?
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Instant. There's no startup
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Same as Bayo's, does it stop it or slow it?
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Giving to Sakuya due to better time hax.
Also never liked Bayonetta anyways.
Also never liked Bayonetta anyways.
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What makes it better?
How can one not like her? (Though I really wish this was Balder instead)
How can one not like her? (Though I really wish this was Balder instead)
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Accelerating age and erase time.
Bayonetta acts like a sl*t. And also she feels like Dante wannabe.
Bayonetta acts like a sl*t. And also she feels like Dante wannabe.
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Bayo has resisted Age Manip on a few occasions
Wow rude. When has Bayo EVER had sex with anyone? Acting sexy =/= ****.
Wow rude. When has Bayo EVER had sex with anyone? Acting sexy =/= ****.
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Bayonetta is over 100 years old discounting the time she was in a coma. Also erasing time means nothing if you don't get to use it.
And like that I can't take you seriously.
And like that I can't take you seriously.
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Yeah as if I'm begging you for approval. So really bugger off.Gargoyle 1 said:
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I see.WeeklyBattles said:
Everyone has different opinions. I just happen to see her as fanservice Dante wannabe replacement.
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Stay on topic.
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Sakuya via better time hax I think
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There's nothing that makes it better over Bayonetta, as everything she can do has either been resisted or she still needs to activate first.
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Even time deletion that has no startup apparently?
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I see.
Everyone has different opinions. I just happen to see her as fanservice Dante wannabe replacement. </div>
And Dante is a a Leon wannabe, what's your point.
Well if you want people to take your argument seriously then there's a problem, but let's stay on topic.
Everyone has different opinions. I just happen to see her as fanservice Dante wannabe replacement. </div>
And Dante is a a Leon wannabe, what's your point.
Well if you want people to take your argument seriously then there's a problem, but let's stay on topic.
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I don't think bayonetta can survive time erasure.
Also can someone plz provide me proof of Bayonetta resisting aging acceleration?
Also can someone plz provide me proof of Bayonetta resisting aging acceleration?
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She can't, but Sakura still.needs to activate it.
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Well speed is equalised, and all Sakuya needs to do is wave her hand or something. Plus they start hundreds of metres away from each other thanks to SBA, so Sakura probably has time to do it.
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Sakuya can use ageing acceleration in the same way as Bayonetta does time stop .
Also she can also summon other versions of herself from alternate timelines.
Bayonetta will be fighting more than 1 Sakuya with same hax advantage than her.
Sakuya has better far better hax than bayonetta. She takes this rather easily.
Also she can also summon other versions of herself from alternate timelines.
Bayonetta will be fighting more than 1 Sakuya with same hax advantage than her.
Sakuya has better far better hax than bayonetta. She takes this rather easily.
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Acceleration there is no absolute proof of, but she was able to forcibly return herself to her adult form after being transformed into a child, and I don't see any reason why she couldn't do it the other way.Hit The Badass said:
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Acceleration there is no absolute proof of, but she was able to forcibly return herself to her adult form after being transformed into a child, and I don't see any reason why she couldn't do it the other way.
That's a low tier resistance. There are time manipulators like Sky Deer who can accelerate ageing to millions of years in a few seconds. And if Sakuya is even comparable to that, i don't see Bayonetta surviving that.
That's a low tier resistance. There are time manipulators like Sky Deer who can accelerate ageing to millions of years in a few seconds. And if Sakuya is even comparable to that, i don't see Bayonetta surviving that.
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Yeah, but is she comparable to that?
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"And all Sakura needs to do is wave her hand or something"
Bayonetta can do it with a thought, as shown whenever she, Jeanne or Rosa use it in cutscenes, it's just a game mechanic. Though I'm going to give Sakura the benefit of the doubt and say that she can do the same.
As I mentioned before it all depends on who activates it first and if they can kill when they first activate it.
In Sakuya's case, IDK enough about her to tell if she can kill when she activates it, but in Bayonetta's case, she absolutely WILL kill Sakura using Wicked Weaves from Chernobog which will be able to eat her soul. Not to mention they have unbelievable range.
Bayonetta can do it with a thought, as shown whenever she, Jeanne or Rosa use it in cutscenes, it's just a game mechanic. Though I'm going to give Sakura the benefit of the doubt and say that she can do the same.
As I mentioned before it all depends on who activates it first and if they can kill when they first activate it.
In Sakuya's case, IDK enough about her to tell if she can kill when she activates it, but in Bayonetta's case, she absolutely WILL kill Sakura using Wicked Weaves from Chernobog which will be able to eat her soul. Not to mention they have unbelievable range.
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Apparently their range is hundreds of metres, which is the same as Sakuya's range with her time manipulation, so...
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Idk. But since she can summon more of herself from alternate timelines. I doubt Bayonetta will be able to resist ageing acceleration of 5-6 Sakuyas at same time. Or getting erased from time while she is fighting her other versions.Monarch Laciel said:
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Can she do that while stopping time? She still has to pull them in from each timeline provided Bayonetta doesn't stop time and eat her soul before that.
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There's a lot of reasons why she shouldn't be able to, pulling multiple spell cards like that isn't possible IIRC.
So either Sakuya or Bayonetta stop time to kill each other and it's a toss up on who does it first. Or Sakuya pulls them in while Bayonetta stops time and slices them.
So either Sakuya or Bayonetta stop time to kill each other and it's a toss up on who does it first. Or Sakuya pulls them in while Bayonetta stops time and slices them.
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Spellcards are spells meant to play a game IIRC. They are meant to make a duel fair, not to kill your enemy ASAP. I don't recall seeing Sakuya using two at once, but this really doesn't mean that she can't. But i'll wait for the input of someone who knows more than me about that
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You know this is the first time I've seen Touhou being downplayed in awhile. It's actually kinda a breath of fresh air. Not that I want anymore of it.
If this is an actual fight to the death naturally you don't have to pull back your punches. Spellcards are typically used to make patterns and different stylized attacks. It limits one's ability by highlighting a portion or a single one. Example the sheer amount of abilities Suika has? She uses them in a way that's not using everything at once. Example she can probably change the density of someone's organs but doesn't do so. Yukari can form a gap inside someone while summoning a train inside them, while summoning multiple gaps connecting the area around said person to the sun, yet only summons one gap at a time when she can clearly summon more.
Spellcards are to make a user hold back. There's no reason for Sakuya to not use her abilities all out in a fight to the death.
If this is an actual fight to the death naturally you don't have to pull back your punches. Spellcards are typically used to make patterns and different stylized attacks. It limits one's ability by highlighting a portion or a single one. Example the sheer amount of abilities Suika has? She uses them in a way that's not using everything at once. Example she can probably change the density of someone's organs but doesn't do so. Yukari can form a gap inside someone while summoning a train inside them, while summoning multiple gaps connecting the area around said person to the sun, yet only summons one gap at a time when she can clearly summon more.
Spellcards are to make a user hold back. There's no reason for Sakuya to not use her abilities all out in a fight to the death.
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Sakuya for reasons above.
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So it is settled then. Sakuya wins this.
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