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If Kratos can't hit Bayo in other dimension....how is he supposed to win??
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Bayonetta vs Kratos
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Bayo jumping to purgatorio immediately in the fight is BS and was debunked a while ago, Kratos hits once and she dies.
Valiant_Abyss
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Incon, cuz she seemingly cant hurt him either unless I guess she opts for deconstruction. Which would in turn make it a stomp I suppose?
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Yeah surprisingly Bayo stomps here, Kratos has no way to hit her and she evntually just takes him apart with Bazillions
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Implying Bayo will just stand there with Witch Time active and just allow him to hit her
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Implying Witch time would affect Kratos when he resists time manipulation and also has infinite speed.
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Witch Time isnt Time manip, its a speed amp that makes Bayo fast enough that people as fast as her (Which would be Kratos as speed is equalized) are perceived as near motionless to her
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He has time stop resistance, which we treat on this site as also granting resistance to Time Slow unless otherwise stated.
Anyways this is a stomp or incon any way you slice it. If you believe Bayo starts in purgatory, Kratos cant hurt her until she eventually pulls out Bazallions. If you believe she doesn't start in Purgatorio, then she gets one shot and can't damage him.
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Dura Neg is not an issue when it just pierces his body, low mid and self healing takes care of Damage...
He will protect his vitals, so he is not dying from them.
He will atleast have an Armour on which has Forcefields....so it will block the beam from hitting his physical body.
He will protect his vitals, so he is not dying from them.
He will atleast have an Armour on which has Forcefields....so it will block the beam from hitting his physical body.
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Witch Time isnt a time stop or time slow, its a speed amp
Valiant_Abyss
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Its both. We accepted this. It being both means she also doesn't generate the time slow-like feel via pure speed amp alone, its a mix.
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Kratos is infinite speed so you’re not blitzing him with witch time, also it is time manipulation, the recent CRT accepted it as time manipulation.
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Actually according to speed equalization rules he's not infinite speed, he's MFTL+
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This is a stomp any way you slice it...
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You mean the rating that Bayonetta can only reach via witch time even if that is a thing? Good job that’s not helping Bayonetta.
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"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc."
- "Speed Amplification techniques are assumed to grant the same percentile of increase to a character's equalized speeds, as they would to their usual speeds."
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Yes, he would be MFTL and not Infinite so Bayo would be able to amp to the point of seeing him motionless
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Not gonna work on a guy who resists time manipulation. Try another argument since witch time counts as time manipulation.
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Speed amplification, he doesnt resist the opponent amping themselves lol
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No you said MFTL+, that’s only possible through witch time.
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Well i meant MFTL as thats her base speed
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The thing that again is accepted as time manipulation not that long ago so it’s not helping Bayonetta at all.
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Check the profile. Bayo's MFTL+ is in base combat speed. Witch Time only gets her higher.
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Dude, he doesnt resist the opponent amping themselves
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Also...
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When does this allow speed blitz when speed equalization prevents speedblitz to begin with?
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Speed Equalization allows for speed amplification techniques to be used and has for years
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In a speed Equalised match slower character isn't allowed to blitz faster character with speed amp anyways...
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Personally I find this rule a bit dumb, but yeah, its there.
Again, for the fourth time, any way you wanna slice it, this is a stomp. Whether who you think that's for, keep it to yourself, but this should be closed.
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^^^^^^
I’d like to know when the slower character being allowed to speedblitz the faster one is a thing when everyone else I’ve seen said the opposite.
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So yeah..speed amp from witch time is not allowed.
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She doesnt exactly need it, the implication that she would just stand there and let Kratos hit her when her entire combat style revolves around dodging attacks is kinda ridiculous
Also to what degree does Kratos resist time manip? Because Bayo can layer Witch Time to the point of affecting beings that resist her first time slow
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He resists time stop, that’s infinitely better than stacking a time slow onto a time slow.
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Fair enough
So did we figure out which armor/talisman/enchantment/pommel grants him a passive forcefield?
So did we figure out which armor/talisman/enchantment/pommel grants him a passive forcefield?
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Kratos outskills massively, he scales above someone who is source of all Martial Skills in the Greek Pantheon in Form of Ares, has experience in fighting beings who existed before time.
Kratos resits time slow which affects Sisters of Fate who have infinite speed.
Time Slow ain't working.
Kratos resits time slow which affects Sisters of Fate who have infinite speed.
Time Slow ain't working.
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Bayonetta can, and should be knowledgeable on all forms of martial arts and fighting techniques, while also having the capabilities of using them on the fly.
Which is why she can use any weapon she gets, at a perfect level.
So I wouldn’t say he massively out skills.
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Before time as in what? Before the universe?
Weekly already conceded on time slow.
Valiant_Abyss
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The debate seems to keep going, but just know, this probably isn't getting added to profiles due to the sheer AP gap that Kratos has here making this a most likely stomp.
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