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Bayonetta: Irenic Downgrade

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Yeah, I checked the rockets length, a 300km bike would result in it being way to slow to climb up to the top before it collapses.
 
"The scene doesn't exist in a vacuum, if we know it can move at Massively FTL+ speeds and Bayo can react to a speeding Irenic, than Bayo has MFTL+ reactions."

However, they're blatantly not moving at MFTL+ speeds within this scene. I have proven that to be the case.

"that is also wrong due to measuring the wrong speed when Jeanne travels up the rocket with the same bike."

Proof? Also, they're different bikes . I don't see how travelling up a massive rocket means anything.
 
Even if I were to concede with Irenic being MFTL+, Bayonetta shouldn't scale as Irenic was going at 300+km/h in that segment.
 
"However, they're blatantly not moving at MFTL+ speeds within this scene. I have proven that to be the case."

Your only argument is the speedometer and you still act as if the scene is in a pure vacuum. It's the same fallacy that says that a villain who beats Thor can't scale to Thor if Thor doesn't blow up a Solar System in the storyline.

The second scene still has the same speed-meter which proves it is bullshit.

Also feats > Stated speeds, which is why we don't rank Kirby at Mach 5.
 
Austrian-Man-Meat said:
Even if I were to concede with Irenic being MFTL+, Bayonetta shouldn't scale as Irenic was going at 300+km/h in that segment.
Then why was it reacting to MFTL+ Bayonetta?

Feats>Unreliable speedometer
 
Irenic scales to Jubileus (actually more to every angel) who scales to Bayonetta, even if we wanted to say that Irenic was going only at MHS+ speed (absolute minimum for Bayonetta). Which already proves the 300 km/h thing wrong
 
"Your only argument is the speedometer and you still act as if the scene is in a pure vacuum. It's the same fallacy that says that a villain who beats Thor can't scale to Thor if Thor doesn't blow up a Solar System in the storyline."

No, this is someone who beats Usain Bolt in a race and claims to be faster than his established world record even if Usain Bolt were calced to be running at half the speed he was during the Olympics within that race.
 
But we already proved that the Speedometer is completely bullshit and contradicts everything. At a minimum Irenic is MHS+. And he is Massively FTL+ by its own feat.
 
The hierarchy of Laguna is basically a record of what angels are and what they do. Why it would be THAT inaccurate? It would be like having a history book telling you that Switzerland won WW2. Everyone and their mother would know that it's inaccurate and nobody would consider it.
 
Considering that everyone on the thread disagrees with the OP, and this is just meaninglessly going in circles now, I don't see anything productive being attained here.
 
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