Well, the Missile would at the very least have to have enough power to destroy the Earth, even lowballing it would still be Tier 6 as it would at the very least have to penetrate through the Earth's core. And doing that was
6-C or
6-B? Somewhere around that. And you just completely misinterpreted your own reasonings; when you said the Tier 5 Bomberman stuff comes from Gameplay while the Tier 3/2 comes from cutscenes, that was a major double standard entirely. The Tier 5 feat came from both the on screen intro and
the offical storyline while the Tier 7 feats are just gameplay and casual movement speed feats. Also, the Ratship still took 0 damage when it crashed through the moon, so by Newton's third law, it would still effect the durability of the Ratship. I also find it hypocritical that you used Mundus as an example when you're the one who upgraded them back to
3-A to begin with.
The Rat Pods are capable of damaging the Ratship/Colossus as seen in the boss fight, so there's 0 reason for their attacks to not be too far below the
Large Planet level durability of the Ratship. Those same Rat Pods are also able to withstand a few hits from the Ratship, and while it does receive massive damage, it actually is still capable of withstanding a ram from the Ratship as well. So the Rat Pods can't be too much weaker than the Ratship in terms of strength and durability. The Battletoads are also capable of wrecking those same Rat Pods to pieces.
As for Robo-Manus again; again, Robo-Manus has very consistently piloted those same planet busting missiles to destroy other planets. That's pretty much the primary method of Robo-Manus destroying planets. And even when he does, even the detonations of the planets he has destroyed are things he survives regularly. And actually, the missile was redirected at the gun downed Ratship which is referred to as "
The Junk Yard Pile". Again, if you want to low ball it as much as possible, it would still be Tier 6. However, the missile is still implied to have more firepower than the Ratship's ramming strength as the Moon crashing which is 100% legit is
5-A and did no damage to the Ratship is then truly destroyed by the same "Planet Busting Missile".
And actually, there's other feats I forgot to mention.
Silas Volkmire actually as a Universal feat; according to the
official story, he merged with Gamescape and Reality Warped his own Universe. And he also supposedly gave the Dark Queen his own reality warping powers and made her just as powerful as him. And despite this, the Battletoads still defeated them and apparently destroyed their universe in the process. Some more info can be found
here, though long video. There's also a pretty blatant
Massively FTL+ speed feat
shown here. And it's consistent with Dark Queen "flying to the corner of the universe and back within months". So if they can travel interstellar distances within seconds and Intergalactic distances within months,
Massively FTL+ is still legit. Those same ships also have projectiles faster than the ships themselves, and the Toads while piloting Rat Pods have reacted to and dodged the same projectiles while also flying at great speeds.
I'm willing to pass the Universal stuff as outliers because Silas Volkmire used a power up they don't normally have access to and the Toads still defeated them for plot reasons. But the Ratship alone is easily Tier 5, and if you want to Knit/Pick Lowball the Missile as much as possible, it would still be Tier 6. The Tier 7 stuff were literally performed without even trying to cause destruction. The 2nd Tier 7 calc is also lowballed; Robo-Manus is actually
12,931 Lb or 5865.4029 kg. This makes the
City level+ calc more like
Large Mountain level+. And the
High 7-C calc done by Dark Queen was nothing more than just her spinning around. A Olympic Athlete taking deep breaths shouldn't be treated as a higher priority feat than bench pressing 1000 pounds. And that's literally 99% of the counter arguments being given. And again, the Missile can destroy the
5-A Ratship and it can destroy the Earth, but it cannot kill Robo-Manus. That should be self explanatory.
So yeah, Tier 6 is the absolute minimum that can be argued as is
Relativistic speed. But it would still be far more logical for them to be
5-A and
Massively FTL+. And at worst, they could be
3-A given the situation with Volkmaire, but that's what I'd call the actual outlier in the room. Also, a few abilities;
Weapon Mastery,
Vehicular Mastery, limited
Size Manipulation, and
Breaking the Fourth Wall are all abilities the Toads need added. The Toads can make their fists and feet grow much larger. And a lot of characters Break the Fourth Wall Regularly. For example, the game and the characters know when the player uses Game Genie or Cheat Codes. And in Battletoads Arcade, the do consistently punch enemies into the screen. And the Volkmaire feat was a blatant 4th Wall Break as well.
