Battle for 5th strongest non-smurf High 8-C (Hajime Hinata vs Henry Stickmin)

[LordGriffin1000]

Standard Battle Assumptions, High 8-C Versions, Speed Equalized

Hajime Hinata:

Henry Stickmin:

Inconclusive:

 

[StrymULTRA]

Speed has to be equalized for Top 5 tho.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Speed has to be equalized for Top 5 tho.

We have characters on the top 5 that have spots (Speed Unequalized) and (Speed Equalized). So speed doesn't half to be equlized unless your arguing for a speed equalized match, if so, I'll equalize speed but note that the winner will have (Speed Equalized) next to their name in the top 5 list.

 

[StrymULTRA]

We have characters on the top 5 that have spots (Speed Unequalized) and (Speed Equalized). So speed doesn't half to be equlized unless your arguing for a speed equalized match, if so, I'll equalize speed but note that the winner will have (Speed Equalized) next to their name in the top 5 list.

We make unequalized speed only for characters who can be in the Top 5 only via such tbh.

Tho, as said in the another thread:

Stats-wise, Henry is just 4.14 Tons and Hajime is bordeline 8-B due of a big scaling chain above 6.01 tons, making the gap almost x2.66.

Hajime's Ultimate Luck completely negs Henry's attemps to harm/inap him, as all of his powers seem action based, and the Luck always saving him in near-death situations and can perfectly affect the others' actions, inducing things that normally shouldn't happen because too unlikely, but they do in favor of Hajime, other than his Luck completely negging Henry's, which doesen't seem to be on even Nagito's levels feat-wise.

The most tricky part is the Load stuff, which, however, seems to only work against death/erasure, and Hajime can kinda defeat Henry with Ultimate Despair hax, which will brainwash Henry and thus granting to Hajime the win.

 

[Zencha9]

so luck gg alrighty
anything that counters empathic aura ?

 

[StrymULTRA]

^forgot that too lmao.

Ain't that a stomp at this point?

 

[Zencha9]

yea doesn't matter if speed is equal or not luck and the aura doesn't care about that

 

[LordGriffin1000]

yea doesn't matter if speed is equal or not luck and the aura doesn't care about that

Unless the range of his aura is shit?

 

[Psychomaster35]

The most tricky part is the Load stuff, which, however, seems to only work against death/erasure, and Hajime can kinda defeat Henry with Ultimate Despair hax, which will brainwash Henry and thus granting to Hajime the win.

So just to point out, Henry's retries have been able to activate regardless if he had been knocked out, incapacitated (IE. stunned, frozen), dimensionally BFR'd (Shown when he accidentally sent himself to a blank dimension in Infiltrating the Airship), killed to a soul destruction extent, or outright doing nothing. Furthermore, fails can even be activated before a tragedy strikes at Henry, even when he doesn’t notice it.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Unless the range of his aura is shit?

SBA makes them start at standard Melee range, as Henry has an higher one only with gadgets.

Hajime just needs to get noticeably close to Henry to make the aura work.

So just to point out, Henry's retries have been able to activate regardless if he had been knocked out, incapacitated (IE. stunned, frozen), dimensionally BFR'd (Shown when he accidentally sent himself to a blank dimension in Infiltrating the Airship), killed to a soul destruction extent, or outright doing nothing. Furthermore, fails can even be activated before a tragedy strikes at Henry, even when he doesn’t notice it.

Issue is that he doesn't really die/get incapped, but gets literally submitted to Hajime's will, and there aren't feats of it loading after such.

 

[Livinmeme]

Issue is that he doesn't really die/get incapped, but gets literally submitted to Hajime's will, and there aren't feats of it loading after such.

You know that you need evidences that loads doesnt work if he submits to hajime because load is a diferent entity from henry rigth?

 

[StrymULTRA]

You know that you need evidences that loads doesnt work if he submits to hajime because load is a diferent entity from henry rigth?

...that doesn't work like that. We need feats not assumptions like this.

 

[Livinmeme]

...that doesn't work like that. We need feats not assumptions like this.

No? you need proves to say than that is going to stop load you know? Load is a totally diferent entitie from henry if he is affected load isnt getting affected

 

[StrymULTRA]

No? you need proves to say than that is going to stop load you know? Load is a totally diferent entitie from henry if he is affected load isnt getting affected

Wait, so is not an Undertale LOAD situation but is a separate entity?

 

[Livinmeme]

Wait, so is not an Undertale LOAD situation but is a separate entity?

Kinda yes henry has been mind haxed and load still kicked in and i dont think henry even knows that Load exists

 

[StrymULTRA]

Kinda yes henry has been mind haxed and load still kicked in and i dont think henry even knows that Load exists

Can you show me a link for him being mind haxed so I can be sure and already make this an incon then?

 

[Livinmeme]

Welp i couldnt find it

 

[StrymULTRA]

From what I'm reading here, the load works even in non violent situations, but also if Henry just fails his initial mission.

So since he'd always fail about killing Hajime, yeah, it would be an infinite loop.

 

[Zencha9]

Unless the range of his aura is shit?

it's sight based

 

[LordGriffin1000]

it's sight based

So whatever he can see is as far as his aura can reach?.

 

[Zencha9]

So whatever he can see is as far as his aura can reach?.

yeah sorta like how madness type 3 is treated