Battle between characters who love doing deals with supernatural beings.

[Teezar]

John Constantine (Post-Flashpoint)

But that's it, isn't it? That's who I am. I'm the one who always does that. Because nobody else can or will. Sacrifice proper John to save his family. Sacrifice a hundred people to save six billion. I'm no hero. I'm no wonder and I never could be. But I'll shoulder it. John Constantine...

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Vs

Kinzo Ushiromiya

Kinzo Ushiromiya (右代宮 金蔵 'Ushiromiya Kinzō') is the aged head of the Ushiromiya family. Even though it has already been announced that he has just a few months left to live, he is brimming with energy. Although he amassed a vast fortune in the past, he never made any announcements about his...

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Both are 9B
Speed equalized

Hope this isn't a stomp, gotta take the boredom away.

 

[Armorchompy]

Low 1-C
Immeasurable

bruh

 

[Shmooply]

Probably would be best to restrict Kinzo's summoning because
uhhh
yknow
YKNOW

 

[Armorchompy]

constantine social influences gg

 

[Shmooply]

constantine vs social influence mailman when?!?1?!?!?!? flushed
i wonder if constantine vs john taylor would be a thematic matchup now

 

[Teezar]

Probably would be best to restrict Kinzo's summoning because
uhhh
yknow
YKNOW

Shit then I guess it might be a stomp then, but the summonings aren't their teir 1 key though .plus I thought you can't restrict abilities.

Plus I haven't kinzo summon them just Beatrice and I don't even know if it takes time but I don't remember him starting with summoning also.

 

[Teezar]

Bump

 

[Armorchompy]

Kinzo's profile does a pretty meh job at explaining how he works, is there anything preventing John fom haxxing?

 

[Zencha9]

beato bringing him back

 

[Teezar]

beato bringing him back

He should have it but it ain't on his 9B key so a CRT needs to be done.

 

[Zencha9]

i just want to know how any of this works
like the creator's realm is assumed to exist in vs battles thus witches can't really go lol and transcend to creator level
but gameboards and game masters aren't assumed to exist even though it's a really important thing? it's just really odd

 

[Teezar]

I'm sorry but I ain't knowledgeable to that extent but you can ask @QuasiYuri

 

[Armorchompy]

beato bringing him back

does that also apply to non-lethal hax?

 

[Zencha9]

does that also apply to non-lethal hax?

probably not

 

[Teezar]

Also soul absorption and soul destruction is a counter for type 8 does constantine have it?

 

[Teezar]

Seems he doesn't have but John has some decent hax to pull of a wincon before kinzo does his summoning.
But since he has no way to bypass his type 8 which isn't on profile yet it's prolly incon.

Let me go start looking for another 9B matchup for John.

 

[Zencha9]

soul absorption yea
soul destruction definitely not

 

[Armorchompy]

actually uh, does the tier 1 shit like, imbue the location in which it happens with its energy? cuz john can actually manip 1-A energy, the one smurf shit he has

 

[Teezar]

actually uh, does the tier 1 shit like, imbue the location in which it happens with its energy?

I don't seem to understand.

soul absorption yea
soul destruction definitely not

I ask and administrator some time ago and he told me this 2 can counter type 8.

Just checked again and john has soul absorption but via preparation.

 

[Armorchompy]

I don't seem to understand.

check his energy manip

 

[Teezar]

check his energy manip

OK

Seems Kinzo's wincons are summoning and blue truth but Idk if his summoning takes time or needs prep.