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The Chaos Wave, if its the same one from Captain Britain, could be 2-A or even higher depending on interpretation. I mean... Wow.
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Guys we have discussed this before. The Phoenix is going to get a big revision. I had made a thread in the past and Matthew agreed.Kasyacarey said:As shown in a flash back of Wanda summoning the power, the Phoenix was able to compete to with it. That should mean the Phoenix is 2-A or higher. Thought it does not scale to users because users like Emma, Namor, and etc were having problems against planet to solar system level characters. When Hope finally got the Phoenix force, she was able to bring mutants back. I guess you can its all connected.
The thing with Gladiator is not PIS because its a new power or rather a form combining both of Jean's powers. I was reminded that she absorbs psychic energy from those around her too...Kasyacarey said:I don't think that feat is tier 4 because it's a good BFR feat.
Off topic- Reminds me of that time Storm powered polaris up to throw a island in space.
On topic- I think you should find more feats between tier 4 and 5 to prove she is that level. Also make sure it's not PIS because @ant was not feeling the gladiator part.
But the thing is we don't know if Sue or Storm can scale to the Pink form... Scaling from other feats maybe...Kasyacarey said:Idk I know everything is not PIS and Jean fought a much stronger Gladiator than Cannonball in her tk form. But if Jean gets an upgrade form it, then Sue should get an upgrade from containing Black Bolt voice with her shield several times or Storm getting an upgrade form harming tier 4 beings too.
If the feats are PIS still, they should all scale from Gambit, who defeated his New Sun counterpart, and they are way stronger than him.
I just saw Gambits profile! You are right about this.Kasyacarey said:Even then Storm was manipulating magic from 4 planet level characters at the same time. Sue was shown to take on several tier 4 characters the same and even Doom Bot, that were hulk level in strength.
As I stated they should all Scale from Gambit, which would be more reliable since apparenly his rating was accepted for some reason.
Pink form should do the trick and it scales to nobody else...Kasyacarey said:Well we still need to know what tier Jean gets. Also what makes Jean 4-B?
Yes and the Pink form is both TK & TP combined and Jean is boosted by the Psychic energy around her.Antvasima said:Only raw power feats are useful for AP.