BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Soulking22334]

they dont, where is this coming from

No she wouldnt, she just came out of the shadow that was left, nothing else lol

down right you will see the shadow portal they need to jump through it to enter the real world

 

[Soulking22334]

Nothing of this is low complex honestly

it's just that graganta is a higher plane than the realms it is the bulk and they are the branches

 

[Soulking22334]

 

[ShadoW200720]

x 3300 sec( ichigo's travel time frame)

Okay?

Why are we multiplying distance and time to get distance?

I'm confused honestly

 

[ShadoW200720]

let us make half tybw characters low complex

Nothing there shows Low complex , even if you take the garaganta as a 5D structure
Causing cracks in it doesn't scale anywhere

 

[Infinite9Luck]

it's just that graganta is a higher plane than the realms it is the bulk and they are the branches

Garganta is infinite/universal size, but opening crack on it =/= destroying it as whole.

 

[Torsin]

I think the first priority after Cour 4 ends should be a cosmology blog. Garganta holds multiple 4d spaces with their own timelines and has its own separate time axis. I am not sure where it tiers based on our standards though. Not sure about this but have heard that a 4D space alone cant hold multiple 4d constructs and that it would need to be 5d or something along those lines.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Does the 4-A scaling for captains like Aizen and Urahara come from Senjumaru or Gremmy?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

it's just that graganta is a higher plane than the realms it is the bulk and they are the branches

Uhhhhhhh you don’t need to be a higher plane to have another 4D structures inside you (pause)

 

[Soulking22334]

Uhhhhhhh you don’t need to be a higher plane to have another 4D structures inside you (pause)

see the the post after it

 

[Soulking22334]

Garganta is infinite/universal size, but opening crack on it =/= destroying it as whole.

the crack was opend as a side effect of their clash , they threatened the boundary itself

 

[Soulking22334]

Why are we multiplying distance and time to get distance?

because v x t give us distance

 

[Mommyleona]

down right you will see the shadow portal they need to jump through it to enter the real world

there is still nothing to calc even if this was true

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

see the the post after it

Speculation

 

[Naeblis495]

Aizen's reference to "Power" here isn't about AP... He's saying, "I'm now a superior being to the shinigami, while you're still a shinigami." The SS Arc Databook already describes Aizen as unmatched, confirming his far superiority over Urahara. If even his pre-Hogyoku form is unmatched, why would he consider Urahara his equal? Besides, he was able to fight Shikai Yamamoto, who is stronger than Urahara.


The fact that several of Urahara's techniques can inflict damage on Aizen doesn't mean all his shikai attacks scale to that level. For example, the technique you mentioned isn't used against Askin or Ulquiorra, so it's fine. Those wouldn't scale to that attack, but Urahara's other shikai attacks wouldn't scale to this one either.

However, I doubt even that should scale. The databook states that these attacks aren't even at Aizen's level and he doesn't take any damage from them. It specifically mentions the scene where both Yoruichi and Urahara are subjected to this attack.

Power mean power, dude. It's referring to AP, clear an simple. The ammount of mental gymnastics you people need to do to discredit an extremely straightforward "I'm now stronger than you but you still are of interrest" is pitifull.


Aizen did not fight Shikai Yama, he specifically created counter measure to NOT have to fight shikai Yama. He was scared of even facing Shikai Yama.
Shikai Yama > Aizen ~ Urahara. Aizen would still win against Urahara in a non prep time fight via KS but their raw power would be similar, as per Aizen's own statement.

You're right, he did not use that ability against Askin. You know what he did use tho ? His bankai. Something FAR MORE POWERFULL, HIS LAST DITCH EFFORT. And it still wasn't enough to win on it's own. Sklaverei Voll Askin > Bankai Urahara > Shikai Urahara ~ Shinigami Aizen.

I don't care wheter Aizen received damage or not. I'm pointing out that it's Iasobi Benihime technique VISIBLY did more 'damage' to Full Chrysalis Aizen compared to his fully incanted Senju Koten Taiou on a far weaker version of Aizen, proving that Urahara Shikai far surpass his kido abilities, unlike what you claim. Kubo still had Aizen's chrysalis being damaged for a reason : To show wich attacks were the more powerfull (This is why i scale Isshin's GT above Urahara's benihime or Yoruichi's shunko : it did more damage to the chrysalis), even if aizen's essence is unscathed inside his cocoon. Obviously they don't scale to this Aizen (He wasn't even serious at all and one shot the 3 of them the instant he try.), but it's still impressive.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Uhhhhhhh you don’t need to be a higher plane to have another 4D structures inside you (pause)

In a webtoon I am reading, there is a category of peoples with infinite space within them, they are infinite beings.
Too bad it can't be listed as having high 3-A durability

 

[ShadoW200720]

You're right, he did not use that ability against Askin. You know what he did use tho ? His bankai. Something FAR MORE POWERFULL, HIS LAST DITCH EFFORT. And it still wasn't enough to win on it's own. Sklaverei Voll Askin > Bankai Urahara > Shikai Urahara ~ Shinigami Aizen.

Because he didn't get the chance to?, immediately he got a shot at Askin after Yoruichi passed out, Askin popped Hasshein along with Gift Ball Deluxe to "put the battle to his terms" then added Gift Ring, which was one of the reasons he used bankai to heal himself, and the main reason it wasn't enough was due to the same Gift Ball passively poisoning him over and over which is hax, trying to say he is now>>>Bankai urahara meaning he's above Aizen is just....

 

[AKUTO123]

yhwach was going to destroy muken with ss is it 3-A or 2-C feat???

With muken or without muken dosent matter 2C feat