BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Hellscream]

Pretty sure that's you larping.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

what this about his comment? we already knew the OG plan of the quincys was the destabilization via killing the hollows, plan did not work out (Thanks to mayuri) so they went and kill the soul king, the whole destruction begins and the anime (urahara) outright says that the whole quakes is not cus of the cycle of souls, outright denying that the destruction is via the cycle.

 

[Trihexa102]

what this about his comment? we already knew the OG plan of the quincys was the destabilization via killing the hollows, plan did not work out (Thanks to mayuri) so they went and kill the soul king, the whole destruction begins and the anime (urahara) outright says that the whole quakes is not cus of the cycle of souls, outright denying that the destruction is via the cycle.

I mean jugram implies it is cause of destabilization and the consequences. He wouldn't mention the fragility of the world and the souls that they had to extinguish if didn't mean that.

 

[Hellscream]

I mean jugram implies it is cause of destabilization and the consequences. He wouldn't mention the fragility of the world and the souls that they had to extinguish if didn't mean that.

I'll take the word of the genius scientists that specified the rifts and trembling wasn't caused by the balance of souls.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I mean jugram implies it is cause of destabilization and the consequences. He wouldn't mention the fragility of the world and the souls that they had to extinguish if didn't mean that.

which is contradicted by the events of the whole war, we see them trying to do it, then fail due to mayuri etc. then we have urahara denying the chaos is due to the soul cycle. What jugram seems to be talking about and implying is the fact that due to the invasion all is destabilized, they killed yamamoto, they invaded the royal palace, they killed the soul king, then the YH became the new ruler, all they knew was thrown into the air, the stability they knew before its gone.

During the early episodes we see them talk about it too, YH questioning the method, how it did not work, killing the arrancar/quincy responsible for the plan etc. then stating the invasion plan is going to take place, the destabilization via killing hollows plan failed, so the invasion happened instead

 

[Trihexa102]

which is contradicted by the events of the whole war, we see them trying to do it, then fail due to mayuri etc. then we have urahara denying the chaos is due to the soul cycle. What jugram seems to be talking about and implying is the fact that due to the invasion all is destabilized, they killed yamamoto, they invaded the royal palace, they killed the soul king, then the YH became the new ruler, all they knew was thrown into the air, the stability they knew before its gone.

During the early episodes we see them talk about it too, YH questioning the method, how it did not work, killing the arrancar/quincy responsible for the plan etc. then stating the invasion plan is going to take place, the destabilization via killing hollows plan failed, so the invasion happened instead

I don't know man this seems like a reach Jugram heavily implies it cause of the destabilization of souls, we see a side effect of it via the Large Rifts. He mentions many factors like the death of hollows, Yamamoto, Squad zero and others which rocked the world to it's core. Urahara can't be taken correctly(also vague) then as he was wasn't sure, but Jugram implies what happened is the Plan executed by Yhwach and his sternritters. That means their goal is destabilization.

Edit: after rewatching the leaks am pretty sure it's destabilization, not like it changes much as yhwach's profile is still based on destabilization until Cour 4 expands on more it.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

I don't know man this seems like a reach Jugram heavily implies it cause of the destabilization of souls, we see a side effect of it via the Large Rifts. He mentions many factors like the death of hollows, Yamamoto, Squad zero and others which rocked the world to it's core. Urahara can't be taken correctly(also vague) then as he was wasn't sure, but Jugram implies what happened is the Plan executed by Yhwach and his sternritters. That means their goal is destabilization.

Edit: after rewatching the leaks am pretty sure it's destabilization, not like it changes much as yhwach's profile is still based on destabilization until Cour 4 expands on more it.

Not really, as the destruction is, as also stated during the episodes gonna be done via YH destroying them and then creating a new one. Yea, thats where the argument falls apart, what does yamamoto, squad zero etc. has to do with mantaining the cycle of souls? nothing if they die or are destroyed the cycle continues as normal, he is talking about how they have basically destroyed the order of the world with their invasion. Urahara is 1. the smartest in the verse 2. he did not vaguely say "this might not be the cycle" etc. he very clearly says it is not when someone mentions if this could be because of the cycle, and he very clearly says it is not because of the cycle being destabilized or anything to do with it. That was their first goal as stated very clearly in both the manga and anime, which is also stated and shown that it failed, which is why they had the invasion.
the destabilization Jugram is clearly talking about is the fact they have thrown into chaos the order of the world etc. which they accomplished